@funcountess I might try the gum, but have history of tmj so they dont recommend also another molar out Thursday 🙁 Thing is, we live in a side-split house and kitchen and basement under my bedroom. I have read on intgernet so many fridges are so loud these days, if I had my way this one, which is not that old, would go and i would buy a new one... but no guarantee re noise and husband says no! Gosh i might have to go back to one that doesnt self defrost at all hours ! yes am in Canada and have ent phone call next week but he is hands off tinnitus.