New here with prostate cancer.

Posted by jimcarr @jimcarr, Jul 24 10:02pm

Hello and thank you for being here. I am 75 years old and have been diagnosed with prostate cancer. I have been reading posts here and anywhere else that has information about it.
I am getting use to most of the acronyms and abbreviations I read but not all of them. Is there a page that spells them out?
I have read that some people have 3+4=7 or 4+3=7. My biopsy shows both plus some kind of nerve invasion so does that make me a little different from others?
I also have had a psma pet scan that showed it has not spread past the prostate.
I have a doctors appointment Monday morning to go over everything but I’m not sure about what questions to ask about the different options regarding surgery or radiation as there seems to be options for both.
I am using the VA in San Francisco for my treatment if that helps you with any response you may have.
I am sure to have more questions after the appointment and I am very grateful for your help and support.

Jim Carr

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Hey Jeff, thanks for the info on UCSF the only thing about getting radiation there is I would have to stay there while it was happening.
Also I was trying to reach Captain Jim at ANCAN and my email keeps coming back saying I have the wrong email for him. Can you send it to me or is that against the rules.
Thanks, Jim

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Have you tried this address?

Marshall-James@comcast.net

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@amota His original post says he is 75.

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@lag Thanks, he may not have a surgery.

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So I have been doing lots of reading and have narrowed it down to one major concern for each procedure. For surgery it is incontinence and for radiation it’s depression.
The depression worries me more as I already have a few things in my life that are going down that road and at my age and amount of time that it can take after the whole thing is over I may not get out of it.
I am hoping to be able to get the Retzius surgery if I can so I am looking for a hospital somewhat close to me and see if that is possible.
If anyone knows of a place especially in Northern California I would appreciate it if you could let me know.
Thanks, Jim

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So I have been doing lots of reading and have narrowed it down to one major concern for each procedure. For surgery it is incontinence and for radiation it’s depression.
The depression worries me more as I already have a few things in my life that are going down that road and at my age and amount of time that it can take after the whole thing is over I may not get out of it.
I am hoping to be able to get the Retzius surgery if I can so I am looking for a hospital somewhat close to me and see if that is possible.
If anyone knows of a place especially in Northern California I would appreciate it if you could let me know.
Thanks, Jim

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I’m not sure where you find the information that radiation lead to depression. I know an awful lot of people that have had it that have no depression at all.

I had 40 sessions of IMRT radiation and have not at all been depressed.

Some people that take ADT get depressed, but that’s not normal. Most people do not have a problem. You have a Gleason 4+3 you do not necessarily have to do ADT. It could be your choice. There are plenty of medicines you can choose from for depression caused by ADT.

Is the nerve problem you mentioned Preineural invasion. That one is not a big deal. It is very common. Most biopsies I look at including my own and my brother have it.

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Hey Jeff, I should have been more specific it’s not the radiation but the Lupron they want me to take for 6 months that I am concerned about.
I keep reading posts about it and I know some people don’t have any problems with it but enough do that I am concerned with it. They write about muscle soreness, joint pain, fatigue and other problems that concern me.
I was doing pretty good last fall and spring hiking and backpacking but then some of my body parts started to hurt and limit what I could do.
If I were to start taking the Lupron and increase the problem I don’t know what would happen to me.
I asked about Orgovyx but it is not covered by insurance which I don’t have anyway and the VA has a long list of things that you have to comply with and when they reached the one about having to try Lupron and not tolerate it is where I figured I would fail.
I am hoping that I can get the Retzius procedure and get it over with without all the side affects.
Thank you for all your help and insight, Jim

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My experience with radiation was not only semi-incontinence in urination--don't walk, run--and enhanced gas production. I haven't found a remedy for the gas..Any ideas. I also had the hormone treatment and am still wonder if, or when, things might return to normal!

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Hey Jeff, I should have been more specific it’s not the radiation but the Lupron they want me to take for 6 months that I am concerned about.
I keep reading posts about it and I know some people don’t have any problems with it but enough do that I am concerned with it. They write about muscle soreness, joint pain, fatigue and other problems that concern me.
I was doing pretty good last fall and spring hiking and backpacking but then some of my body parts started to hurt and limit what I could do.
If I were to start taking the Lupron and increase the problem I don’t know what would happen to me.
I asked about Orgovyx but it is not covered by insurance which I don’t have anyway and the VA has a long list of things that you have to comply with and when they reached the one about having to try Lupron and not tolerate it is where I figured I would fail.
I am hoping that I can get the Retzius procedure and get it over with without all the side affects.
Thank you for all your help and insight, Jim

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3 1/2 years after my prostatectomy My PSA rose and I was put on a six month shot Of Lupron. It was interesting that I had no noticeable side effects at that time. When I went back on it three years later, I had serious hot flashes, no joint pain for at least four or five years.

Reactions very a lot you may not have serious problems with it.

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Hey Jeff, I should have been more specific it’s not the radiation but the Lupron they want me to take for 6 months that I am concerned about.
I keep reading posts about it and I know some people don’t have any problems with it but enough do that I am concerned with it. They write about muscle soreness, joint pain, fatigue and other problems that concern me.
I was doing pretty good last fall and spring hiking and backpacking but then some of my body parts started to hurt and limit what I could do.
If I were to start taking the Lupron and increase the problem I don’t know what would happen to me.
I asked about Orgovyx but it is not covered by insurance which I don’t have anyway and the VA has a long list of things that you have to comply with and when they reached the one about having to try Lupron and not tolerate it is where I figured I would fail.
I am hoping that I can get the Retzius procedure and get it over with without all the side affects.
Thank you for all your help and insight, Jim

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@jimcarr My husband has been on Lupron shots for many years and spot radiation to spinal metastases off and on at the same time, and has had none of the serious side effects mentioned. Everyone reacts differently to Lupron. Please don't refuse radiation based on fears of depression from Lupron. It may not affect you that way, and you may be able to request another drug with the same benefit.

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So I have been doing lots of reading and have narrowed it down to one major concern for each procedure. For surgery it is incontinence and for radiation it’s depression.
The depression worries me more as I already have a few things in my life that are going down that road and at my age and amount of time that it can take after the whole thing is over I may not get out of it.
I am hoping to be able to get the Retzius surgery if I can so I am looking for a hospital somewhat close to me and see if that is possible.
If anyone knows of a place especially in Northern California I would appreciate it if you could let me know.
Thanks, Jim

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Given your age, and that you are considering treatment options, I thought you might be interested in the below thread from 2 years ago entitled: "Is 76 too old for prostate cancer surgery?" I had just had surgery at 78 years and you can see my detailed reply to that question on page 2 of that thread. I'm 80 now and still glad I chose surgery. My PSA remains undetectable, I do have ED and incontinence but just use a single Tena pad a day. Both the incontinence and the ED are manageable and wouldn't have changed my decision.
Best wishes and congratulations, you've come to a most helpful resource!
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/76-too-old-for-surgery/

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This is from our Moderator, Colleen.
There are so many acronyms related to prostate cancer. When newly diagnosed these can be overwhelming and frustrating. As you become more familiar with the diagnosis, consult with the medical team, read reports, BAM! you start throwing around the acronyms like the best of them.

To help newbies, several of you suggested creating a glossary. Let's get it started. Here are the abbreviations most commonly used in the group:

Updated May 7, 2024

ADT = androgen deprivation therapy
AR = Androgen Receptor
ARSI = Androgen Receptor Signalling Inhibitor
AS = active surveillance
AUS = artificial urinary sphincter
BCR = Biochemical Recurrence - elevated PSA after treatment followed by undetectable test
BMD = bone mineral density
BMI = body mass index
BPH = benign prostatic hyperplasia or hypertrophy
BRACHY = brachytherapy
BRFS = Biochemical Recurrence Free Survival
BS = bone scan
BX = biopsy
Ca = cancer
CAT SCAN = computerized axial tomography; same as CT scan
CBC = complete blood count
CEA = carcinoembryonic antigen
CGA = chromogranin A
CHEMO = chemotherapy
CMP = Comprehensive Metabolic Panel
CRPC = Castrate Resistant Prostate Cancer
CSS - Cancer-Specific Survival
CT SCAN = computerized tomography; also known as CAT scan or CT scan
DART = dynamic adaptive radiation therapy
DMFS = Distant Metastasis-Free Survival
DOM = doctor of oncological medicine
DRE = digital rectal examination
Dx = diagnosis
EBRT = external beam radiation therapy
ED = erectile dysfunction
EPE = Extraprostatic extension
FLA = focal laser ablation
GS = Gleason score
Gy = Gray, the unit of absorbed does of radiation
HDR = high dose rate; as in HDR brachytherapy
HIFU = high intensity focused ultrasound
HR = Hazard Ratio
HSPC = Castrate Sensitive Prostate Cancer
IDC + Intraductal carcinoma of the prostate
IGRT = image-guided radiation therapy
IMRT = intensity-modulated radiation therapy
IOTN = Immuno-Oncology Translation Network
LDR = low dose rate; as in LDR brachytherapy
LHRH = luteinizing hormone releasing hormone
M0 = No Distant Metastasis
M1 = Distant Metastasis
mCRPC - metastatic castration resistant prostate cancer
Mets = metastasis; cancer that has spread to other places in the body
mHSPC = Metastatic Castrate Sensitive Prostate Cancer
MO = medical oncologist
mpMRI = Multi-Parametric MRI
MRI = magnetic resonance imaging
Mx = metastasis
N0-N3 = status of cancer in the lymph nodes; subset of staging
NCCN = National Comprehensive Cancer Network
NCI = National Cancer Institute, USA
NED = No Evidence of Disease.
NIH = National Institutes of Health, USA
nmCRPC = nonmetastatic castration resistant prostate cancer
ONCO = oncologist
OS = Overall Survival
PBRT = proton beam radiation therapy
PC = prostate cancer
PCa = prostate cancer
PCP = Primary Care Physician
PET = Positron Emission Tomography
PI-RADS = prostate imaging-recording and data system; used in assessment and evaluation of MRI scans for risk of prostate cancer
PLND = Pelvic Lymph Node Dissection
PNI = Perineural Invasion
PSA = prostate specific antigen
PSADT = PSA Doubling Time, Prostate-specific antigen doubling time
PSMA = prostate specific membrane antigen
PT = Physical Therapist
QOL = quality of life
RALP = robot-assisted laproscopic prostatectomy; similar to LRP but with “robotic” assistance
RARP = robot-assisted radical prostatectomy (same as RALP)
RCT = Randomized Clinical Trial
RO = radiation oncologist
RP = radical prostatectomy
RT = radiation therapy; also: right side
SBRT = stereotactic body radiation therapy
SE = side effects
SRT = Salvage Radiation Treatment
SUV = Standardized uptake value
SVI - seminal vesicle invasion
Sx = symptom
TPUS =Transperineal Ultrasound biopsy
TRT = testosterone replacement therapy
TRUS = transrectal ultrasound
TURP or TUR/P = transurethral resection of the prostate
TX = treatment
US = ultrasound
UTI = urinary track infection
VMAT = Volumetric Modulated Arc Therapy, a form of IMRT
WBC = white blood cell count

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@wheel1 thanks i needed this list in my life.

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