timeline for squamous cell growth

Posted by pat25 @pat25, Sep 18, 2025

I had a 5mm open sore on my forehead x 2 months. Then, Dx as Squamous cell skin cancer on biopsy. Surgical removal scheduled 2 months out. What are the risk of it spreading within these time frames? Seems like a long time to wait to have it removed. Surgeon/Dermatologist is booked up.

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@grammato3
Thank you! Yes, your comments were reassuring, yet when I'm alone with my thoughts I feel like Freddy Kruger is right outside my door.
How did my mom's Sebhorrheic Keratosis morph into Squamous Cell? Additionally, she was never a sun worshipper. Our fair-skin, blue eyes and light hair color didn't mix well with UV rays. So I left my home in CA to live in CO at 10,000 ft. elevation. Obviously UV rays were my last concern, however now I live inside with a bottle of vitamin D. Freddy Kruger and his friend, Mr. G. Reaper have been seen peeking in my windows.
I do see a therapist 1x a week, but this is for grief, as I lost two sons at 2 different times within the last six years.
Thank you again for your knowledge and comments.
I do have more to add, but I'm trying to keep this brief. :●

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@s2vera: Funny you mentioned the analogy to Freddy Kruger - I say that, too, about my melanoma as my one metastatic lung nodule responded early on in immunotherapy treatment but I've joked that I feel it could be lurking somewhere else inside like Freddy! But I've adapted Mark Twain's philosophy about worrying: "I've had a lot of worries in my life, most of which never happened"! Which is not to say I don't have questions and plans, I do. But I'm trying to let life unfold and be open to it. It was a process, I admit.

I've no doubt having experienced the losses of your sons have contributed to some sense of hypervigilence and increased awareness but I'm wondering if those concerns about skin cancer may be misplaced or exagerated for your own situation now. Had anyone actually said that it was your mother's sebhorrheic keratosis that directly led to the SCC? That would be highly unusual. One need not expose themselves to the sun excessively to be susceptible to developing a skin cancer, especially those of us who are fair skinned with light eyes due to less melanin to help protect against normal, every day UV rays. Taking standard precautions as we've all been taught now help to lessen exposure considerably from "days of yore" when these facts were not known.

Has your therapist been helpful in addressing some of these health concerns?

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@ggshin: I'm so sorry to hear your husband is going through these medical difficulties, and by extension so are you by being in a supportive role to him, so I welcome you here with sympathetic arms.

I'm a little unclear as to the timeline here, so perhaps you can help clarify this for me. Your husband was diagnosed with SCC (squamous cell carcinoma) 2 1/2 years ago? When did the medical practitioner advise against surgery, which I imagine was Mohs, and what was the reason for not treating it? Is it possibly because your husband has been refusing further treatment, which he would have the right to do if he had been deemed to have medical decision making capacity. Proceeding with treatment would not be against palliative care, but would be if enrolled in hospice. So it seems there are a lot of "spinning wheels" going on here and you may be best to consider these options with the hospice provider. Have you discussed this with the hospice care team?

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@grammato3
Hi thank you for replying. The SSC started about 2 1/2 years ago. When I finally got him to go to the doctor was July 9th of this year. We had two prior appointments which he refused to go to. The doctor did a biopsy and it was diagnosed as SSC a week later. It’s on his right forearm and about 1.5 to 2”round and about 1” in high. Because of its size, where it’s at, age, skin elastic the doctor explained the need to take tissue around it. It would be very difficult if not impossible to close the area up. It has gotten bigger.
I’ve read about chemo and radiation, but because of his age and other health issue, I don’t think either is a good option. Bill has Alzheimer’s which adds to his not always being cooperative at times.
Is it possible to get a time line. I realize everyone is different, a general idea would be helpful. I have read if it has spread into his bones, muscles and so on it can be terminal. His general health is not good.
‘I hope this makes sense.

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@grammato3
Hi thank you for replying. The SSC started about 2 1/2 years ago. When I finally got him to go to the doctor was July 9th of this year. We had two prior appointments which he refused to go to. The doctor did a biopsy and it was diagnosed as SSC a week later. It’s on his right forearm and about 1.5 to 2”round and about 1” in high. Because of its size, where it’s at, age, skin elastic the doctor explained the need to take tissue around it. It would be very difficult if not impossible to close the area up. It has gotten bigger.
I’ve read about chemo and radiation, but because of his age and other health issue, I don’t think either is a good option. Bill has Alzheimer’s which adds to his not always being cooperative at times.
Is it possible to get a time line. I realize everyone is different, a general idea would be helpful. I have read if it has spread into his bones, muscles and so on it can be terminal. His general health is not good.
‘I hope this makes sense.

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@ggshin: I see, this does appear to put things into greater perspective. From what you're relaying there are several factors the doctor is considering: a rather large area that would like require either a significant Mohs or a wide local excision, possibly with a lymph node dissection - all requiring the patient who undergoes these procedures has the ability to remain still and refrain from picking at the wound site afterwards. A person with Alzheimers has a tendency to become agitated - and as you say, not cooperative - and exhibit habits such as picking; additionally, diabetes can impair wound healing due to compromised blood flow to the area. That could make the patient more susceptible to infection. Chemo and other interventions can also pose risks.

You are correct that left untreated there is potential for SCC to spread to the lymph system or distant organs, although this is in the minority of cases and it's generally a slow growing cancer. You can ask the medical provider what is the likely case for your husband based upon the biopsy.

It's a difficult position to be in, I'm sure. Mayo has several programs and resources for caregivers such as yourself which you may find helpful: https://www.mayo.edu/research/centers-programs/alzheimers-disease-research-center/for-patients-families/dementia-wellness-education-programs

It's a hard job being a primary caregiver. Do you have others who are helping you care for your husband?

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I do have a caregiver that comes 2 days a week. It gives me an opportunity to grocery shop and other errands. My daughters are close but of course they work. As well as granddaughters that work also. Until recently I was able to leave him home if it was just a quick run to the store, unfortunately he has stared wandering looking for me. The yard is fully fenced however that is out of the question now. We do have an appointment with a Dermatologist next week. It will be interesting to hear what he thinks.
Thank you so much for the information. I’ll check out the caregiver/Alzheimers program.

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I do have a caregiver that comes 2 days a week. It gives me an opportunity to grocery shop and other errands. My daughters are close but of course they work. As well as granddaughters that work also. Until recently I was able to leave him home if it was just a quick run to the store, unfortunately he has stared wandering looking for me. The yard is fully fenced however that is out of the question now. We do have an appointment with a Dermatologist next week. It will be interesting to hear what he thinks.
Thank you so much for the information. I’ll check out the caregiver/Alzheimers program.

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@ggshin: Family assistance does help but I understand the limitations. If you or your husband have Medicare, this program may offer some assistance: https://www.cms.gov/priorities/innovation/innovation-models/guide. This guideline from The American Cancer Society provides questions that you may consider asking the dermatologist: https://www.cancer.org/cancer/types/basal-and-squamous-cell-skin-cancer/detection-diagnosis-staging/talking-with-doctor.html

I hope the appointment meets your satisfaction. I'd like to hear how it goes. You can hit "reply" to this comment so it will come to my attention.

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