To sleep, perchance to dream

Posted by 1995victoria @1995victoria, 4 days ago

I used to sleep soundly for at least 7 to 9 hours. My head would hit the pillow and next thing I'd realize it was morning. For the last year, except when I took my "once in a while" benedryl, I don't sleep for more than 4 hours, wake for 3, and hopefully go back for 3-4 more.
I stopped taking benedryl because of the dementia risk. I take a melatonin 3mg, but it still takes me 2-3 hours to finally drop off to sleep. Any one share a miracle to help get to sleep and stay asleep?

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@kjoed53
OK, since you asked and maybe you don't have access to an internet search engine, try this general overview of the issue from The Sleep Foundation. It was the first result and skimming it looked like it had enough info to help you research what specific aspect you are wanting to know.
https://www.sleepfoundation.org/how-sleep-works/biphasic-sleep
I have to post separately because the chat format stripped out info and links. I think you can find something that will answer your questions...or bring up new ones.

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@deanhobart
That explains biphasic sleep which is requires a stretch of the imagination to consider that an endorsement for everyone to adopt.

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@deanhobart
That explains biphasic sleep which is requires a stretch of the imagination to consider that an endorsement for everyone to adopt.

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Which is why people have to decide for themselves what works best for them considering where they live, what schedule they have, and what their personal biology and issues are. Again, the whole point of this thread is that someone was troubled by not sleeping a single sleep because they have moved into a biphasic sleep pattern due to chemo are was worried about that.

My response was that biphasic is actually more natural and if that works for her, then adapt to that routine until and unless her treatment stops and she goes back to a full night sleep in one session.

Many people don't realize that we only started sleeping in one session about 150 years ago (4 to 5 generations), so there is nothing alarming about it reappearing under certain circumstances.

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@deanhobart
Can and should are two entirely different matters. People have always slept according to their individual needs and experience.

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No. People did not sleep for a full approx 8 hour session until about 150 years ago because of changes in technology and work schedules. If they did it was considered a malady and a concern about listlessness.

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@deanhobart
I have never been a shift worker. The last shift worker I knew was my father and he slept in one session. I don't believe this is suggesting that everyone is better off sleeping in four hour shifts. This just proves that people adjust to what is necessary.

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@kjoed53 listless essay.
No one is suggesting that one style is better than that other. You need to read the citations you demanded of me to find out that what is better depends on the individual biology, environment, schedul, and geography. It is just a fact that we as in most of the industrialized world only started doing it culturally in the 1800s.

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