Continuing Care Between Mayo & Local Providers for MM
tl/dr: Mom with multiple myeloma was receiving care at Mayo but recently returned to home state. Local providers are non-experts, and the Mayo support staff are referring Mom to local providers for side effects/new symptoms. How do out-of-town patients best coordinate care between their Mayo specialist and their local providers? What are reasonable expectations in terms of receiving treatment from Mayo Clinic specialist?
Hi there!
My Mom was diagnosed with multiple myeloma recently and was receiving care at Mayo Clinic in Phoenix until a few weeks ago. She had several complications so she stayed in Phoenix for several weeks, but she lives out of state.
She's now back in her home state, and we're having difficulty coordinating care between her Mayo specialist and her local providers. Her local providers seem ready and willing to work with Mayo. However, she recently reached out to her MM specialist in Phoenix via the portal and her concerns (about inflamed, weepy eyelids with styes) were, imo, dismissed by the nurse who responded (it's unclear if the doctor was consulted at all). The nurse said sorry to hear about the inflamed eyes and said to reach out to my Mom's local provider (not an MM expert, but a general hematologist who is following Mayo's plan of care).
This nurse has been dismissive and condescending to us previously and has left several questions unanswered (due to the complications my Mom had, we had a ton of questions), which has been a point of ongoing frustration. So I'm not sure how much that history is coming into play here, but having the local, non-expert hematologist consult on the care plan seems to me to be opposite what the MM specialist said to expect. I have a lot of concern about this because her local provider has already given her insufficient care on a previous condition she was being treated for (there's limited options for her in terms of other hematologist, which is why she's still seeing this one).
So, overall I'm wondering: how do out-of-town patients best coordinate care between their Mayo specialist and their local providers? What are reasonable expectations here in terms of continued treatment from Mayo specialist?
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I'm very non-confrontational so I love this approach. Thank you again so much, @kjoed53!
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Sounds like if you and I got into an argument, no one would win...lol
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1 Reaction@kjoed53 haha I expect we'd have a nice time though!
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3 ReactionsHi folks!
I'm wondering if I can get your advice here once again. I did reach out to the Office of Patient Experience, and they were very timely in their responses. They said to process my concern, they needed to reach out to my mother which they did a few days later.
I wasn't present when my Mom spoke with them, but my understanding of the conversation from her is that she told them she felt "comfortable" where things were with the Mayo specialist. She felt comfortable because the nurse who has provided us insufficient (in my opinion) guidance in the past had confirmed that they could in fact give my mother advice on her treatment, but couldn't actively treat since she's out of state. The nurse said this only after my mother very politely expressed concerns to them about no longer getting the treatment she feels she should be getting (but she didn't even say it that directly).
The reason I'm resurrecting this is because my Mom again reached out to the Mayo specialist for advice about a side effect she's continuing to have (itchy skin all over) as a result of her MM treatment. A PA at her local provider's office (non-experts on MM) told my mother to stop her oral chemo pill and see if the itching stops (and to try using Claritin and Benedryl). My Mom then asked the Mayo specialist to confirm if this is his advice too. The Mayo nurse responded VERY quickly to my Mom's message (within 15 minutes) and said this "sounded great" and was aligned with the sort of recommendations the Mayo doctor typically makes for the patients fully under his care.
I have a lot of concern about (1) my Mom stopping a key part of her treatment based off of a PA's advice (this is nothing against PAs! This cancer just requires such specialized treatment, as I understand it.); (2) what feels like partial or insufficient answers from the Mayo nurse; and (3) the lack of clarity on the Mayo specialist's role here--I'd like his advice on med changes, but if this is truly inappropriate to assume he'd provide input I can figure something else out (I guess).
So my questions for you all are: am I crazy or does this truly not seem to be in line with how care for out-of-state patients should be coordinated? And do you have any advice on how to continue to pursue this with the Office of Patient Experience if my sweet Mom is too worried about being a burden to people to say anything to Mayo herself?
Everyone has been so helpful here. I hope it's ok that I'm going to tag the following people specifically: @kjoed53 , @colleenyoung , @gingerw , and @loribmt
Thanks everyone! I'm sorry if I am crazy or making a big deal out of small stuff.
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2 Reactions@analisag, if this were me (or on behalf of my mom), I would want to hear from the prescribing doctor before discontinuing chemotherapy treatment. It sounds like you are concerned that the nurse responded without consulting the doctor.
Are you or your mother able to communicate with the team directly in the patient portal?
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It seems to me that your main concern is that you are working with a local PA, and not an MM specialist. Can you request a referral to a local hematologist-oncologist? If not, is there a teaching hospital near enough to utilize their expertise? I'm in NJ and I'm using a local Cancer center that is not well known but has some very competent doctors.
@colleenyoung thanks so much for your response. The communication is taking place in the Mayo patient portal. The nurse is (seemingly) not passing along the concerns to the doctor, but simply responded with how she understands they often do things.
I can recommend that she confirm stopping the meds is ok by her local hematologist, but he’s not an MM expert, which is why I’m eager for the Mayo specialist to advise on this.
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1 Reaction@kjoed53 thank you so much for your response! My mom is under the care of a local hematologist. I’ve been unhappy with the care he provided for her in the past (prior to the MM diagnosis), which is a factor here. There are no MM specialists in the state my Mom is in, which is why she went to the Mayo specialist.
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Although there are not any MM specialists, I would still reach out to see if they have a suggestion for a new hematologist-oncologist. Doctors tend to have a wide reaching network. What state if I may ask? Have you tried myeloma.org?
@analisag, staff at Mayo Clinic are known for their colloborative teamwork. If you continue to be concerned that messages in the patient portal are not reaching the right person or have concerns with the communication, please contact the hematology department or circle back with the Office of Patient Experience.
Mayo Clinic wants you to be confident in your interactions with staff and in the care your mom is getting.
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