Diagnosing amyloidosis: Why monitor (PYP scan) instead of biopsy?

Posted by honeymamabee @honeymamabee, Aug 3, 2024

I have many symptoms of amyloidosis. I had a PyP scan an of heart. Result was equivical- meaning not not neg, but not pos either. My heart Dr wants me to have another scan in 6 months. I want a biopsy done now, rather than wait. Am I right wanting in wanting it now? And can't I have a biopsy from abdominal tissue rather than just heart tissue biopsy that would give me same results as the tissue from the heart?? Am I being i.patient to want this done now??

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Thank you,
Thank you, Thank you!!!
You have given me answers that I have looked for and needed. Last Friday, I asked my heart Dr to do a biopsy on me. She said no, and said she was going to do another PyP scan in 6 months. I wanted to flip on her. She wouldn't budge. But then, this is the Dr who said I was just fine 6 months ago and said I didn't need any testing and that I should have many years left. Then 6 months later she does a turn about. My personal Dr said for me to try goi g thru my heart Dr. But he also said that if she would not have biopsy done, that he would see that I got one. Thank you for suggesting what other tests I should have done. I am being treated for heart failure. My afib was surgically corrected. I have unexplained shortness of breath, along with Graves Disease. I had bilateral carpal tunnel syndrome, which was surgically repaired. I am now starting to have neuropathy reay bad in my rt leg, alo g with joints in hand getting ready bad at times with swelling and pain. I could go on, but I think you get the picture. I think all of this is a result of me having covid really bad in January of 2020. As you know, covid was still being denied by Trump and his administration then, until everything was shut down in March 2020. A year and a half later I started getting heart problems, and things continue on a downward spiral since then.
Thank you so much for taking the time to respond to my message .
I hope you are doing well. I live in northern Mich. I will let you know what happens after I have biopsy and a few other tests. Your input means the world to me right now. Thank you for helping a stranger. I will try to pass it on!!
-Sue Rae

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You're welcome. I hope you find some answers.
I have AL Amyloidosis, there is another type called TTR Amyloidosis that has the symptom of carpal tunnel. I think the TTR Amy just affects the heart. I have amyloid in my heart and stomach. My symptoms were fatigue, swelling of ankles and unintentional weight loss.
I also live in Michigan; between Lansing and Grand Rapids.

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You're welcome. I hope you find some answers.
I have AL Amyloidosis, there is another type called TTR Amyloidosis that has the symptom of carpal tunnel. I think the TTR Amy just affects the heart. I have amyloid in my heart and stomach. My symptoms were fatigue, swelling of ankles and unintentional weight loss.
I also live in Michigan; between Lansing and Grand Rapids.

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What a small world this is. We now live in Frankfort, southwest of Traverse City, but until 2 yrs ago, we lived in Battle Creek for the past 53 yrs. We raised our family there.
I have also had unintentional weight loss of 60 lbs, and swelling of my rt leg alot. Lately I have been have alot of pain in my rt leg and I'm my hands just horribly. I have just started seeing a new family Dr , and I am finally getting someone who will listen to me and not just brush my symptoms off .

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I had lab work for Amyloidosis and everything was good.
Does that mean I dont have it?
Going in for PYP scan next week

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I had lab work for Amyloidosis and everything was good.
Does that mean I dont have it?
Going in for PYP scan next week

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@babesmom, have you received the results of the scan? What led to your doctor wanted to test for amyloidosis?

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@babesmom, have you received the results of the scan? What led to your doctor wanted to test for amyloidosis?

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Haven't received results yet
The doctors said with all the tests I have had done (numerous) my heart is fine, my lungs are fine, blood work is always good however I still get short of breath, stamina decreases every month and I am very tired so they are testing for rare diseases

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Hello. I can speak a little bit to this, as I am in the process of diagnosis currently - in fact my myocardial biopsy is scheduled for tomorrow. My advice to you is to keep pushing for answers. Someone described the process to me as: The amyloid diagnosis ultimately ends up a bit like a puzzle; where we put all the results of your testing together to try to form 'the big picture'. The gold standard is a biopsy, which we can do for the heart as well, called an endomyocardial biopsy. However, we usually start with the least invasive modalities (imaging tests, blood work, genetic testing) to see if we can get to the diagnosis.
So you will need to be very patient. I ended up in this position myself after having a MINOCA (heart attack) which led to the discovery of my heart damage -- which had been causing all of the severe symptoms similar to what you describe, and I had been accepting them as part of the aging process, and my body (I am only 57) -- mind you, I also have existing diagnosis of MGUS. I went to the ER 3 days after my cardiac event and luckily the cardiologist who was reviewing my films (echo) saw something he was concerned about (often goes overloooked) and looked further with a cardiac MRI. If you've done some research you will see that these amyloid diseases often get overlooked due to symptoms looking like other diseases, but Drs are being trained to look out for them now. ATTR can be ruled out with a genetic test as well. It can all be a bit confusing and overwhelming for sure. I am hopeful to get some kind of answers, because that's what we all really want, answers, and to feel better. To get better would be great! I have a lot of gastric issues that so far, I have gotten zero answers on - but I suppose we need to tackle the heart first, and if amyloid is there, I will have a team and can move into investigating the abdomen more.
I don't know if this is helpful or not, but feel free to ask any questions 🙂 and keep advocating for yourself!

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A skin small skin biopsy from a lower and upper
body site done by a skin specialist could be helpful and non invasive.
Local anesthetic and a single stitch.
The doctor needs to capture some of the lower fat layer to get for special staining analysis of the tissue.

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