Black pepper / Piperene / Bioperine and metformin and blood glucose

Posted by carbcounter @carbcounter, 6 days ago

Well how about this, I've been picking up information for about nine years now on dietary practices and blood glucose, but this may be the biggest of all and I've managed to be unaware of it, not seen it mentioned, and of course never heard it from a doctor or other health worker.

I've known that black pepper, and the active ingredient piperene, is often mixed with other supplements to help with their absorption. I thought it was only through blocking some of the cytochrome enzymes that clear and destroy active ingredients, and it does do that, but it also has direct beneficial effects on glucose metabolism!

One immediate fact is it slows the clearing of metformin and should certainly be taken with great care for anyone on metformin. I didn't realize until recently that my magnesium glycinate capsules also contain a small amount of this Bioperine. Yikes!

Since the chatbot was chatty I also mentioned taking curcumin and celery seed supplements, and it told me immediately those too would be facilitated (or worse) by piperene. These supplements do not contain any piperine.

Does anyone out there have any more knowledge about this?

I had this chat with just plain old GoogleAI, which seems to have been upgraded recently to just about full Google Gemini capacity. I can post my discussion here if anyone likes.

I got into this because I recently cheated (!) with some potato chips flavored with sea salt and black pepper. A modest serving, to my amazement, had little, or no, or beneficial effects on my blood glucose! And I repeated this (harrumph!) a couple of times to validate. Other flavors of chips (harrumph!) were not so beneficial, of course. Nor, as the chatbot reminds me, is this a license to eat more potato chips. But it sure does seem a good topic to know about.

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thanks for sharing; I've been a diabetic for 30 years. The best dive that I've received over the past 10 years is the Decom device ... measures my blood sugars every 5 minutes & tracks in my phone. I can see quickly which foods have the biggest impact on my blood. sugar levels.

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thanks for sharing; I've been a diabetic for 30 years. The best dive that I've received over the past 10 years is the Decom device ... measures my blood sugars every 5 minutes & tracks in my phone. I can see quickly which foods have the biggest impact on my blood. sugar levels.

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@davidyapp
I'd love to have a CGM like that, but I get by with just three test-strips a day. Actually insurance would probably buy me the CGM if I wanted, but .... I'm waiting until the smart watch can do it without anything else sticking in or on you! (and for blood pressure, too!)

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@davidyapp
I'd love to have a CGM like that, but I get by with just three test-strips a day. Actually insurance would probably buy me the CGM if I wanted, but .... I'm waiting until the smart watch can do it without anything else sticking in or on you! (and for blood pressure, too!)

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@carbcounter an Apple Watch might already be available that has glucose monitoring. I’m 51 years diabetic and use a CGM, insulin pump and have a watch. My husband used to be an Apple consultant. He has all things Apple. There is a follow app and he will get notifications on his watch if my blood sugar is too low or high. He uses his watch for something having to do with blood pressure too. It even has a feature to track your walking stability and another thing that will say “I see you’ve taken a fall, should I contact 911?” Or something to that effect!

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@carbcounter an Apple Watch might already be available that has glucose monitoring. I’m 51 years diabetic and use a CGM, insulin pump and have a watch. My husband used to be an Apple consultant. He has all things Apple. There is a follow app and he will get notifications on his watch if my blood sugar is too low or high. He uses his watch for something having to do with blood pressure too. It even has a feature to track your walking stability and another thing that will say “I see you’ve taken a fall, should I contact 911?” Or something to that effect!

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@cehunt57
You can buy some Chinese watches that claim to do blood glucose but they're just toys, not accurate enough to really be interesting, or that's what I understand, but Apple doesn't think it's ready for prime time yet.

When (if) it actually works I'd strongly recommend everyone get it, even at moderate cost, help you understand blood glucose every day, prevent obesity and diabetes before it begins! Just understanding the game is half the battle, you can't even start doing it if you can't see some numbers.

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