Dr can’t help my IBS. Now what?

Posted by yorkshirerose2016 @yorkshirerose2016, May 20 7:09am

Hi all, I hope you’re well?

I have IBS for over 20 years and managed it well until 2020 when I contracted c diff in the UK (I now live in the US). Since then I have struggled with constant pain in my lower abdomen and now the area where my gallbladder is located.

I have had all the tests that the GI will do and nothing shows, apart from a small polyp in my gallbladder. My GI dr has said that there is nothing they can do for the pain as I have tried all the meds they could “offer” and essentially be on my merry way. The only information they told me was that I must be depressed or anxious which is what is apparently causing it. To clarify, I’m pretty happy with my life and I’m most definitely not either of those.

I can’t have fibre as it makes the pain worse, I’ve tried homeopathic meds and the ones the dr can prescribe. I’ve done a FODMAP diet previously and know which foods make it “worse.” I just don’t know what to do anymore as the specialist has said they don’t need to see me anymore. I feel lost and know that this pain isn’t normal.

My IBS before was nothing like it is now. I’ve been told it can change after c diff but I would happily have another round of c diff over this pain.

Has anyone else experienced this from the dr or have any advice as to what to try or do now?

Thank you so much

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@suetex thanks for responding.

What is sjorgens?

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@yorkshirerose2016 It is another autoimmune disease that can attack any part of your body. They are finding more out about as we speak. I found out about the action on the GI tract from one of my drs.

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@hopeful33250 thank you for responding.

I have lost around 40lbs in the past two years through cutting out certain foods. I don’t eat fast food anymore, I have figured out which foods cause me more pain than others (some of which are supposed to be low FODMAP and “ok”) and try to exercise every day (not doable some days due to my fibromyalgia).

I know eating garlic, strawberries, too many grapes and basically most carbs affects me. I stay away from a lot of grains as they do the same. I have just started a sugar free diet this week to see how I get on with that. Other than that or maybe going gluten free, I’m not sure what else to do.

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Hi @yorkshirerose2016, by any chance have you been checked for SIBO? Also, I assume you've been tested to make sure the C-diff is gone (I hear it can persist long-term)?
I recently got a book by Izabella Wentz, called Finding and Treating the Root Cause of IBS. It's super detailed and maybe you'll find something helpful in there. She talks about LDN in there, too, by the way.

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@yorkshirerose2016
I am sorry to hear you have IBS-M. As you say, managing that must be so challenging. Do you have a period of a few days of one or the other, weeks, or is it different every day? I have IBS-C. I just started on one tablet, 72 mcg, Linzess, plus Senna. I expect I will have to increase the Linzess dosage. Four tablets a day is recommended for IBS-C.

For IBS-D, I suppose you have been given the prescription meds (Xifaxan, Viberzi, et al) and OTC meds. Maybe some pain/spasm meds (Bentyl, Levsin, et al) as well.

I can relate to your reaction to doctors' pronouncements about depression/anxiety. It is hard to be happy when you are in pain. Antidepressants seem more viable for folks with only IBS-D. Unfortunately, they all seem to make constipation worse.

I hope other members with IBS-D add to your post.

Good Luck and Best Wishes!

Mark

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@mark1952
I had IBS-C / IMO for a few years and went thru the antibiotics etc, with only temporary help. Finally, i found that 64 oz of water per day and only 3 meals with 5 hours in between meals with no snacks of any-kind including any liquids with calories, along with antimicrobials, gut beneficial supplements and motility support. Motility support included Miralax, Ginger, Artichoke/Ginger, Magnessium citrate and MCT Oil. My problem was started by a lack of some enzymes. After 4 months of the low fodmap, supplements, eating on schedule and some enzyme I now am doing well with a normal eating routine and good BMs. Good luck!

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@mark1952
I had IBS-C / IMO for a few years and went thru the antibiotics etc, with only temporary help. Finally, i found that 64 oz of water per day and only 3 meals with 5 hours in between meals with no snacks of any-kind including any liquids with calories, along with antimicrobials, gut beneficial supplements and motility support. Motility support included Miralax, Ginger, Artichoke/Ginger, Magnessium citrate and MCT Oil. My problem was started by a lack of some enzymes. After 4 months of the low fodmap, supplements, eating on schedule and some enzyme I now am doing well with a normal eating routine and good BMs. Good luck!

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@marylandbob
Thank you so much for your response. Very happy for your success story. It buoys others! So much food for thought. Will give it a close reading and possibly ask some follow-up questions if that is okay.

Mark

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@hopeful33250 thank you for responding.

I have lost around 40lbs in the past two years through cutting out certain foods. I don’t eat fast food anymore, I have figured out which foods cause me more pain than others (some of which are supposed to be low FODMAP and “ok”) and try to exercise every day (not doable some days due to my fibromyalgia).

I know eating garlic, strawberries, too many grapes and basically most carbs affects me. I stay away from a lot of grains as they do the same. I have just started a sugar free diet this week to see how I get on with that. Other than that or maybe going gluten free, I’m not sure what else to do.

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@yorkshirerose2016
Hello. First off I am sorry for what you are going through especially not getting answers you need.
So a few tests that GI office could order are: SIBO breath test, CSID breath test, HIDA test for gallbladder, stool test for EPI. Have you done any of these? You can quickly search the web for info on these tests/conditions. Some GI docs don’t think the breath tests are accurate but I personally think they are helpful. You do have to weigh out the cost benefits though.
If they’ve only done a CT scan of your gallbladder they wouldn’t know if it’s working properly without doing a HIDA test.
My GI docs had me work with their office’s dietitian who recommended the FODMAP diet. For a fiber supplement she has me using Sunfiber (find on Amazon) which is gentler than others.
It has been a journey for many years with IBS-M. But through the tests you may get more info and need to go on Xifaxin - a GI antibiotic. It helped me a lot.
I also am aware of a stress response in my gut and did do some counseling for past trauma. While I’m not sure it helped my gut issues, it was helpful in general.
Other methods to try are acupuncture, massage, heating pad, etc.
For me, prayer and offering my pain up has helped. I think I’ve become more compassionate to people’s pain that is not visible. Chronic pain takes a toll and finding someone going through similar things eases the suffering. I guess that’s part of the purpose of this forum.
I sure hope you get some answers! Keep us posted.

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Yes, this Simply nature Apple Cider Vinegar from ALDIS is organic and not processed. They even print on the label that it contains the 'MOTHER'. It definitely seems to have helped the Dirrhea but I cant say if that was the only element....stopped taking Budesinide about 5 weeks ago, eating NO DAIRY, and always eat sweets w/nuts, and never drink w/meals. Good luck

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@burrpenick OPPS, first week definitely helped, next week less, 3rd week back to original condition- diarrhea. Also read that ACVinegar is not good for folks that have had stomach surgery and also messes w/absorption of meds. ACID!

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I suggest that all the above try Low Dose Naltrexone. Read about it first. Then if it seems right, go for it. I've been on it for 8 yrs. and don't plan to stop.

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@suetex
Just want to throw something out there regarding LD Naltrexone.
This gets pushed on our community a lot. I am not onboard with any meds that have the potential to psychologically alter my personality. So, I am still declining my many docs several attempts to get me to try it, but I also had genetic testing done that confirms that psych meds and my chemistry do not interact well. So, I would beware and do diligent research as you suggested, before trying any medication. I just think you should always know what you are possibly in for. I don't know why docs are always pushing meds like this on everyone. I have had it put in my chart not to even offer me anything that has that potential for psych effects, as when they try to sell it as something else, I have issues from the fact that it is also used for psych and those effects it has on me, and that is extremely dangerous to me.
To each his own though. Whatever works for you and what you are willing to do is up to each of us. I am glad it is working for you. I have provided what Mayo Clinic has for information on this medication if anyone would like to research it.

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I didn't see the document attach so I am trying again.

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Thank you for your comment. I was not aware of any side effects that any one had because I had none from the very beginning. I guess I am very lucky that way. I am sorry it not so for you. And you are right to be very careful. I know that LDN isn't for everyone. I guess I was encouraged to start at a lower dose for a reason. But it tured out to be just what I needed. Otherwise, the sulfazalinene would have done my kidneys in.

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Hello!

I developed 24/7 abdominal pain around the bellybutton with tenderness 12 days after food poisoning. It’s been 4 years and it’s only gotten worse. I have bloating, feeling of fullness, and constipation. No treatment has worked. My pain only stops while using TENS, cold water and only during ketamine infusion not after. Also did celiac plexus nerve block which only eased bloating pain not my own pain. I am also looking for treatments?

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