How do you ever choose which med?

Posted by rudysmom @rudysmom, May 3 6:04pm

I already have anxiety and trying to decided which med to choose is giving me even more anxiety. Ugh To summarize my previous posts I’m 61 and was diagnosed in February with OP. My spine is -2.7 and hips -2.0.

My Gyno diagnosed me and gave me the news over the phone while I was driving in my car. He gave me choice of Prolia or Evista. Gave me a very brief description and asked which one I wanted to do. I said I wanted to see an Endocrinologist.

Made appointments with 2 different Endo’s. First one suggested Reclast, Alendronate or Evista. I did tell him when I was diagnosed with Osteopenia I tried Fosomax. Had severe pain in lower back after a couple of pills. Told him I was told to stop meds and increase calcium. When he gave me choice of the 3 meds he also skated over the side effects told me to look them up on bone health website and choose. Had God complex so I moved on. Next Dr I really liked but she came at me with Evenity and I inquired about Evista. She said I could do that too. Ordered bloodwork and 24 hour urine test. Office called me after getting results and said she wanted to set up me up with Evenity shot. I started to panic. Mainly because after that is Reclast or Prolia. I asked if she ever prescribed HRT. They said no. I feel like starting out with Evenity is basically hard core. Like I said in 61, and after Evenity is then Prolia or Reclast, which I can’t handle biophosonates and I read that odds are I will have reaction to Reclast as well.

I know I have to do something I don’t want to fracture. Maybe Evenity would really increase my scores since I’m not that far over the line, but I keep hitting the wall with Prolia or Reclast. I’d like to try Evista first or HRT, but the whole blood clot thing with Evista worries me. I read that if you’re going to be sedentary for a long period of time for instance surgery or travel you should stop it at least 3 days in advance. She doesn’t prescribe HRT so I’m guessing I’d have to find another Endo who would prescribe it. Or if Endo doesn’t prescribe that what Dr does? PCP? Gynecologist?

I have a telehealth appointment tomorrow with the Dr about Evenity, to basically talk me off the ledge.

So how do you choose? I just feel like once I make the decision my life will never be the same. It just all seems like a roll of the dice.

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Profile picture for magicwoo @magicwoo

@oknowwhatpixie Can I ask your age? My T-scores are low, the worst being my left hip (-4.10) I do not want any of those bone drugs, but fear I am too old for HRT (I am 69)

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@magicwoo
I am 59. My spine is the only area in osteoporosis.
My TBS has shown improvement after a year. And my bone markers are showing stabilization at this point in time.

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@oknowwhatpixie Can I ask your age? My T-scores are low, the worst being my left hip (-4.10) I do not want any of those bone drugs, but fear I am too old for HRT (I am 69)

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@magicwoo
Look into Osteoben with Genistein, which is a plant based, light weight type estrogen, that a functional doc is recommending. They did a study on it and it apparently worked as well as Alendronate although it may take a year or two to show.

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Profile picture for magicwoo @magicwoo

Wow! I know how you are feeling! I am 69 and my dexa in February was bad news! The worst was my left hip at -4.10 (the rest were -3.40 spine, -3.30 right hip etc.). UGH!
I am terrified of all the bone drugs! Everything I've read so far is no-go for me! My endocrinologist has suggested Tymlos or Forteo. I don't see myself injecting a drug daily that will cost more than my rent, and could cause terrible side effects, so we'll see how it goes at my next meeting with her.
The osteoporosis had been coming on for quite a few years, I just didn't see it, and none of my doctors said anything! I had a PA notice that I'd lost an inch of height (4 years ago) and she said, "Oh, that's normal!" I also had two implants (teeth) fall out, but did anyone warn me about osteoporosis? I really wish they had said something!

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@magicwoo

Are you on original Medicare and a supplemental insurance.

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Profile picture for magicwoo @magicwoo

Wow! I know how you are feeling! I am 69 and my dexa in February was bad news! The worst was my left hip at -4.10 (the rest were -3.40 spine, -3.30 right hip etc.). UGH!
I am terrified of all the bone drugs! Everything I've read so far is no-go for me! My endocrinologist has suggested Tymlos or Forteo. I don't see myself injecting a drug daily that will cost more than my rent, and could cause terrible side effects, so we'll see how it goes at my next meeting with her.
The osteoporosis had been coming on for quite a few years, I just didn't see it, and none of my doctors said anything! I had a PA notice that I'd lost an inch of height (4 years ago) and she said, "Oh, that's normal!" I also had two implants (teeth) fall out, but did anyone warn me about osteoporosis? I really wish they had said something!

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@magicwoo I sympathize with you. I am 76 and my DEXA in my spine is -4.1 and -2.7 in my hips. I am not taking any bone medications because I am also afraid of them. Tymlos and Forto are not options for me due to parathyroid issues. I haven't lost any height though or had any fractures.

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I was on Evista for 7 years—for bone health and to avoid breast cancer (I’m high risk). It didn’t slow my bone loss, it appears. I don’t believe it’s a very strong aid for osteoporosis. So then you are likely going to have to go onto something else. Difficult to know whether you will have the side effects or not for any medication. The one I am on., Tymlos, I have cycled through most of the side effects, some of which have dissipated, and some of which have not. My friend who was on Tymlos had zero side effects, but her bone results were excellent, so I’m hoping to add the same. Remember, you can always stop the med if it gets too much. Good luck!

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@jozer

I completely agree and I also know that our medical system is understaffed and in the state of constantly having to deal with insurers who act as if they are doctors.
For profit medical systems who claim they are "non profit entities".
The system itself is in real trouble and that is scary.
See: paientrevolution.com

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@gravity3

Patientrevolution.org

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Profile picture for wondering1 @wondering1

@rudysmom Another route to doctors who are hospitable to bHRT is Midi (https://www.joinmidi.com/)

They are an online healthcare group covered by many insurance plans. I get my HRT through my PCP but have a friend whose doc was opposed. She uses Midi and is happy with it.

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@wondering1

Am I correct that they do not take Medicare?

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@wondering1

Am I correct that they do not take Medicare?

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@gravity3 you are correct. Just found this on their website.

“ Midi is not covered by Medicare or any Medicare-related insurance plan. Midi can accept Medicare beneficiaries as self-pay patients, but beneficiaries cannot submit any claims related to their Midi visits, medications, or associated services.”

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Profile picture for laren3 @laren3

If my spine were at -2.7, I'd forego the meds and get serious about lifting weights. It seems to be the lever that best guarantees bone building, so they say. Best wishes to all.

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@laren3 I was lifting weights before having this dilemma with osteoporosis. Now that I’m at risk for fractures, with my TScores changing due to steroid treatment, I am frightened about lifting weights. How do you lift safely and not risk some weird fracture? Is that possible? That’s my fear not sure it is a program that can get your lifting heavy enough and not risk a break. Also lifting like I was doing was not targeting hips and sound per se. I was doing squats deadlifts, rows,
I’m interested to hear what you know about this piece.
Thanks.

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Profile picture for sassysaveur @sassysaveur

@laren3 I was lifting weights before having this dilemma with osteoporosis. Now that I’m at risk for fractures, with my TScores changing due to steroid treatment, I am frightened about lifting weights. How do you lift safely and not risk some weird fracture? Is that possible? That’s my fear not sure it is a program that can get your lifting heavy enough and not risk a break. Also lifting like I was doing was not targeting hips and sound per se. I was doing squats deadlifts, rows,
I’m interested to hear what you know about this piece.
Thanks.

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@sassysaveur

Try liftmor
And melioguide.org

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