Newly diagnosed and confused about the goal
I am newly diagnosed PMR by my primary doctor. My symptoms started slowly with stiffness and pain in my hamstring area of my left leg only. Over a 3 month period of time the stiffness, pain, and feeling like the muscle would just snap in 2 spread to both legs and lower buttocks area, then to both hip girdle area. My doctor thought I might have sciatica and sent me to PT and an X-ray. X-ray showed L5. l4 area usual arthritic changes in a 73 year old body. PT made me feel better overall physically, but did nothing for the pain. Doctor then did blood work which showed protein reactive score of 17. Put me on 15 mg of prednisone. I have only been on it for 9 days. Some ever so slight improvement in morning pain, it doesn’t last quite as long as before medication, but still uncomfortable. If the leg pain is better the hip pain seems worse.
Is the goal of the prednisone to eliminate the pain or just lessen it? How long should I wait before saying although better the pain isn’t all that much better. I am not sure how to measure this. I am happy for any level of pain relief but was hoping for something better than what I am currently experiencing. I am expecting too much too soon?
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@cj762 On 20 mg, I couldnt make it through the night. Splitting that dose at 4am and 4pm, prevented me having to take more.
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That was how it worked for me too. I actually needed less prednisone. My daily morning dose might be 20 mg. I would be surprised when a split dose of 10 mg in the morning and 5 mg in the evening for a total of 15 mg worked better than 20 mg all in the morning!
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Thank you so much for your response.
It was very helpful.
love to you,
Marian Ackerman
@gud2gro this is so true and any new exercise needs to be added in oh so slowly, otherwise pain is bound to follow from it just being new.
@bbrass You should not have pain as you taper down. You are at the point where your adrenal glands are waking up and it is easy to confuse PMR pain with the pain from adrenal glands not kicking in and getting back to work. This is where your taper needs to be slow. Once you are pain free at 5mg, possibly plan to stay there for 30 days, then drop to 4mg for 30 days, etc. Remember that dropping from 5 to 4 is a 20% drop - which is a big difference at the lower doses. At 10 mg a 1 mg drop is only 10%. I would advise not to rush it. I know you want off steroids but at 5mg and below that is a very small dose.
There is a national shortage of Rheumy's so finding one who is accepting new patients can be difficult. I live in the Dallas area and it is not easy even in this large of a market.
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3 Reactions@jabrown0407 Thank you for your input. I have read on this same topic that having some pain while tapering should be expected. I guess it becomes a personal choice. I am on 5mg and still have some pain. Perhaps I’ll try 7-1/2mg and see. When I went from 15 to 10 I had no pain. So I may have to go back to 10???
Again, I appreciate your interest.
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1 Reaction@bbrass You might want to read up on adrenal insufficiency and understand that this can be a problem when tapering if your adrenal glands don't want to wake up. There are plenty of Mayo Connect chats on tapering and adrenal insufficiency. You could start right here by using the Search feature.
I'm not sure what the range is exactly but what I do know is that your adrenal glands worked well for decades then steroids came along and put them to sleep. They published somewhere between 3-10mg a day which was exactly what my body needed. I personally hit the pain wall around 4mg and have to go down by 0.5mg after that and very slowly. I even alternately when I wanted to taper. That approach works for me.
Above 10mg you can do just about anything and not have a problem which is why they suggest 5mg tapers to get to 10mg a day. Tapering is part art and part science.
@jabrown0407
Thank you so much for your advice and welcoming me to connect.
It means a lot to me.
Sending blessings to you
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Marian
15mg did nothing for my pain so I was moved up to 25mg because I'm 6'3" and 245#. I thought the goal was to be pain free.
Sorry for my very long post earlier. Seeing my rheumatologist on Thursday for my monthly.
I went back up to 15mg of prednisone (from 12.5) as the symptoms were all coming back again and feel great.
I get the idea is to take as little as possible. Methotrexate made my face feel like I was on Novacaine and overall I felt awful. Was also getting UTI symptoms 3 days after taking it.
So what's the goal (other than eliminate the symptoms):
Start on one of the new IL 6 drugs?
Or do I stay on prednisone for a few months and try to taper more slowly?
Admittedly I’m not excited about trying something else unless I hear this is a game changer. But I know prednisone has it's own issues.