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Vacuum erection device/pump recommendations

Posted by oldgreenpaint @oldgreenpaint, Mar 3 7:33am

I tried doing a search, didn’t come up with any old threads on this, but there surely must be some? What I am looking for is a pump recommendation or even a Don’t buy That statement. Just trying to survive ADT.

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psmick | @psmick | 6 days ago
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I use Vitamin A and D ointment instead of gel which came with pump. Works well. Hope this helps someone

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@tattodice I use coconut oil, but an ointment sounds good. Thanks for sharing,

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rlpostrp | @rlpostrp | 6 days ago

The most difficult thing to get a hold of in this Mayo blog, is that we all know that we are the "Outliers"...the guys who did not have the positive, 100% recovery experience that we had hoped for. Those guys aren't on this blog because "everything went well." But what percentage of post-RP guys do they represent?...10%, 25%, 50%??? We own this blog, all have one or more things we didn't expect or want: incontinence, ED, stool/bathroom issues, recurrence, etc.
So, I wonder even within this group, how many post-prostatectomy men have ED...ED that lasted more than one year; when did they regain normal, naturally occurring erections if they did at all?; and how many men have permanent ED? All I am reading all the time is questions and comments about Trimix, pumps, and other interventions, as if we "all" have permanent ED. And "that" ticks me off, because my doctor keeps moving the target on me for when I'll regain my ability to have a natural, normal erection. He went from "3 - 6 months post-op", to "6-9 months post-op"; to "some men take up to a year before regaining erections'; to "it can take some men up to two years post-op"; to now "some men never regain their ability to achieve erections." I am tired of being strung out with these leading statements sprinkled with optimism. Urologists need to be more honest and forthright from the very beginning: "I am sorry to tell you that even despite my successful preservation of your neurovascular bundles, you will likely never achieve an erection again in your life." Then I could have dealt with it, and be in a different place. I am now exactly one-year post-RP, and I haven't even had a twitch in my penis. I am actually trying to grasp the fact that I will be alone for the rest of my life (divorced one month before my RP surgery in April 2025), because I can't fathom dating someone special, without a sexual component to the relationship going with it. And, I do not want to date "platonically." That is just called "friendship." That makes me think that a lot needs to be done with psycho-social counseling/therapy as part of every man's pre- and post-surgical journey with prostate cancer. Women have all kinds of pre- and post-mastectomy or post-ovarian cancer counseling and therapy, plus support groups, etc. Men only have this blog, but no trained professional counselors. Insurance and Medicare should pay for 10-20 sessions to help see us through our new reality of sexual inabilities.

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surftohealth88 | @surftohealth88 | 6 days ago
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The most difficult thing to get a hold of in this Mayo blog, is that we all know that we are the "Outliers"...the guys who did not have the positive, 100% recovery experience that we had hoped for. Those guys aren't on this blog because "everything went well." But what percentage of post-RP guys do they represent?...10%, 25%, 50%??? We own this blog, all have one or more things we didn't expect or want: incontinence, ED, stool/bathroom issues, recurrence, etc.
So, I wonder even within this group, how many post-prostatectomy men have ED...ED that lasted more than one year; when did they regain normal, naturally occurring erections if they did at all?; and how many men have permanent ED? All I am reading all the time is questions and comments about Trimix, pumps, and other interventions, as if we "all" have permanent ED. And "that" ticks me off, because my doctor keeps moving the target on me for when I'll regain my ability to have a natural, normal erection. He went from "3 - 6 months post-op", to "6-9 months post-op"; to "some men take up to a year before regaining erections'; to "it can take some men up to two years post-op"; to now "some men never regain their ability to achieve erections." I am tired of being strung out with these leading statements sprinkled with optimism. Urologists need to be more honest and forthright from the very beginning: "I am sorry to tell you that even despite my successful preservation of your neurovascular bundles, you will likely never achieve an erection again in your life." Then I could have dealt with it, and be in a different place. I am now exactly one-year post-RP, and I haven't even had a twitch in my penis. I am actually trying to grasp the fact that I will be alone for the rest of my life (divorced one month before my RP surgery in April 2025), because I can't fathom dating someone special, without a sexual component to the relationship going with it. And, I do not want to date "platonically." That is just called "friendship." That makes me think that a lot needs to be done with psycho-social counseling/therapy as part of every man's pre- and post-surgical journey with prostate cancer. Women have all kinds of pre- and post-mastectomy or post-ovarian cancer counseling and therapy, plus support groups, etc. Men only have this blog, but no trained professional counselors. Insurance and Medicare should pay for 10-20 sessions to help see us through our new reality of sexual inabilities.

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@rlpostrp

The thing is - nobody can predict when and if one will have full recovery for any condition in general.

There are however statistics and that is what doctors use when they talk to their patients. Your urologist would have been dishonest the same way if he said that you will never regain your erections. He would have been dishonest if he said "with certainty" ANY prediction.

There is simply no certainty - one has a great chance (about 75 % of patients do ) to regain erections in span of 2 years but only if one uses rehabilitation methods.

All that being sad the wast majority finds help with ED using medications, injections and implants as does the rest of healthy male population. About 60% of 60 year old man have ED , 70% of 70 year olds. So, % of RARP patients that regain erections post surgery is actually remarkable considering that most are over 50.

BUT, if you give up trying - you are lowering your chances as well as the speed of recovery. : (

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Jeff Marchi | @jeffmarc | 6 days ago
In reply to @rlpostrp "The most difficult thing to get a hold of in this Mayo blog, is that we..." + (show)
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The most difficult thing to get a hold of in this Mayo blog, is that we all know that we are the "Outliers"...the guys who did not have the positive, 100% recovery experience that we had hoped for. Those guys aren't on this blog because "everything went well." But what percentage of post-RP guys do they represent?...10%, 25%, 50%??? We own this blog, all have one or more things we didn't expect or want: incontinence, ED, stool/bathroom issues, recurrence, etc.
So, I wonder even within this group, how many post-prostatectomy men have ED...ED that lasted more than one year; when did they regain normal, naturally occurring erections if they did at all?; and how many men have permanent ED? All I am reading all the time is questions and comments about Trimix, pumps, and other interventions, as if we "all" have permanent ED. And "that" ticks me off, because my doctor keeps moving the target on me for when I'll regain my ability to have a natural, normal erection. He went from "3 - 6 months post-op", to "6-9 months post-op"; to "some men take up to a year before regaining erections'; to "it can take some men up to two years post-op"; to now "some men never regain their ability to achieve erections." I am tired of being strung out with these leading statements sprinkled with optimism. Urologists need to be more honest and forthright from the very beginning: "I am sorry to tell you that even despite my successful preservation of your neurovascular bundles, you will likely never achieve an erection again in your life." Then I could have dealt with it, and be in a different place. I am now exactly one-year post-RP, and I haven't even had a twitch in my penis. I am actually trying to grasp the fact that I will be alone for the rest of my life (divorced one month before my RP surgery in April 2025), because I can't fathom dating someone special, without a sexual component to the relationship going with it. And, I do not want to date "platonically." That is just called "friendship." That makes me think that a lot needs to be done with psycho-social counseling/therapy as part of every man's pre- and post-surgical journey with prostate cancer. Women have all kinds of pre- and post-mastectomy or post-ovarian cancer counseling and therapy, plus support groups, etc. Men only have this blog, but no trained professional counselors. Insurance and Medicare should pay for 10-20 sessions to help see us through our new reality of sexual inabilities.

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@rlpostrp
Get the implant. That will resolve your problem permanently, and you have no reason to tell a woman that you have it because you can get erection very quickly without doing much of anything. Very high satisfaction over 85% satisfied with having it.

It is covered by insurance.

You should’ve seen my postings about it in other messages. This will resolve your issue

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oldgreenpaint | @oldgreenpaint | 6 days ago
In reply to @rlpostrp "The most difficult thing to get a hold of in this Mayo blog, is that we..." + (show)
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The most difficult thing to get a hold of in this Mayo blog, is that we all know that we are the "Outliers"...the guys who did not have the positive, 100% recovery experience that we had hoped for. Those guys aren't on this blog because "everything went well." But what percentage of post-RP guys do they represent?...10%, 25%, 50%??? We own this blog, all have one or more things we didn't expect or want: incontinence, ED, stool/bathroom issues, recurrence, etc.
So, I wonder even within this group, how many post-prostatectomy men have ED...ED that lasted more than one year; when did they regain normal, naturally occurring erections if they did at all?; and how many men have permanent ED? All I am reading all the time is questions and comments about Trimix, pumps, and other interventions, as if we "all" have permanent ED. And "that" ticks me off, because my doctor keeps moving the target on me for when I'll regain my ability to have a natural, normal erection. He went from "3 - 6 months post-op", to "6-9 months post-op"; to "some men take up to a year before regaining erections'; to "it can take some men up to two years post-op"; to now "some men never regain their ability to achieve erections." I am tired of being strung out with these leading statements sprinkled with optimism. Urologists need to be more honest and forthright from the very beginning: "I am sorry to tell you that even despite my successful preservation of your neurovascular bundles, you will likely never achieve an erection again in your life." Then I could have dealt with it, and be in a different place. I am now exactly one-year post-RP, and I haven't even had a twitch in my penis. I am actually trying to grasp the fact that I will be alone for the rest of my life (divorced one month before my RP surgery in April 2025), because I can't fathom dating someone special, without a sexual component to the relationship going with it. And, I do not want to date "platonically." That is just called "friendship." That makes me think that a lot needs to be done with psycho-social counseling/therapy as part of every man's pre- and post-surgical journey with prostate cancer. Women have all kinds of pre- and post-mastectomy or post-ovarian cancer counseling and therapy, plus support groups, etc. Men only have this blog, but no trained professional counselors. Insurance and Medicare should pay for 10-20 sessions to help see us through our new reality of sexual inabilities.

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@rlpostrp Much of what you said is quite true. My recollection from watching Doctor John Mulhall videos is that the nerves get damaged/ shocked during RP surgery and there is a period of time needed before the nerves wake up and work, if they are ever going to, and no guarantee that they ever will either. I do much understand your frustration. I didn’t have surgery. I had radiation, and adt along with it. So the effects of adt are not worn away yet for me either. That is why I wanted to stretch out Mr Johnson to try and preserve some of what I had. As far as using the pump for intercourse, it seems awkward and I question its ability to work for me. Jeff’s idea seems good, from what I know.

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dmccarthy104 | @dmccarthy104 | 5 days ago
In reply to @rlpostrp "The most difficult thing to get a hold of in this Mayo blog, is that we..." + (show)
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The most difficult thing to get a hold of in this Mayo blog, is that we all know that we are the "Outliers"...the guys who did not have the positive, 100% recovery experience that we had hoped for. Those guys aren't on this blog because "everything went well." But what percentage of post-RP guys do they represent?...10%, 25%, 50%??? We own this blog, all have one or more things we didn't expect or want: incontinence, ED, stool/bathroom issues, recurrence, etc.
So, I wonder even within this group, how many post-prostatectomy men have ED...ED that lasted more than one year; when did they regain normal, naturally occurring erections if they did at all?; and how many men have permanent ED? All I am reading all the time is questions and comments about Trimix, pumps, and other interventions, as if we "all" have permanent ED. And "that" ticks me off, because my doctor keeps moving the target on me for when I'll regain my ability to have a natural, normal erection. He went from "3 - 6 months post-op", to "6-9 months post-op"; to "some men take up to a year before regaining erections'; to "it can take some men up to two years post-op"; to now "some men never regain their ability to achieve erections." I am tired of being strung out with these leading statements sprinkled with optimism. Urologists need to be more honest and forthright from the very beginning: "I am sorry to tell you that even despite my successful preservation of your neurovascular bundles, you will likely never achieve an erection again in your life." Then I could have dealt with it, and be in a different place. I am now exactly one-year post-RP, and I haven't even had a twitch in my penis. I am actually trying to grasp the fact that I will be alone for the rest of my life (divorced one month before my RP surgery in April 2025), because I can't fathom dating someone special, without a sexual component to the relationship going with it. And, I do not want to date "platonically." That is just called "friendship." That makes me think that a lot needs to be done with psycho-social counseling/therapy as part of every man's pre- and post-surgical journey with prostate cancer. Women have all kinds of pre- and post-mastectomy or post-ovarian cancer counseling and therapy, plus support groups, etc. Men only have this blog, but no trained professional counselors. Insurance and Medicare should pay for 10-20 sessions to help see us through our new reality of sexual inabilities.

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@rlpostrp had partial NS RP 2.5 years ago at age 68. Some response returned but not enough for intercourse. For that I need trimix. I dislike trimix but it does the trick.

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fritzo | @fritzo | 5 days ago
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Greetings Everyone!
Though this is and can be embarrassing for us, it's a fact of our lives now and sharing valuable learned information can be quite a value. I like researching to see what people are saying prior to making purchases and this was a popular model....so I ordered one. I can't see any drawbacks whatsoever and it is very well made. They have a long warrantee also. I hope it's ok to add a link to my message.
https://timmmedical.com/shop/vacuum-therapy-systems/osbon-esteem-manual/
The restriction rings that come with this pump I found to be very painful to use so I tried these blue rings below. It's an extra cost but well work it. Not really painful due to the much softer material and they are wider.
https://www.erecaidpumps.com/new-blue-ultimate-round-rings-with-new-gentle-flex-technology-erection-tension-rings/
Since a person doesn't know what size will work, I ordered all three sizes to be safe.
I know a person can get set up with a pump with these rings on this site with a pump other than what I bought and save money. I'm just letting everyone know what I've used and have been impressed with.
Good luck to all....we are all in this challenging situation. There is so much more I could say on this subject...

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@tmitch Thanks for the advice on the blue rings. I have a Vacuret pump, and it's great for therapy. But, for use with constriction , those rings are really PAINFUL to get off. Going to order the blue rings.

And, you mentioned you could say so much more....just curious, what things would be at the top of your list to share? Thanks!

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rlpostrp | @rlpostrp | 3 days ago

I ask this question somewhat facetiously, but truly with intent, but...
Have any men been able to achieve an erection with the "Tulip" method (a.k.a fellatio...oral sex)? I read all about pumps and guys recommendations on Trimix, but...why wouldn't the visual and feeling of your wife/girlfriend giving you oral sex be able to get a rise out of us? I am divorced, so I have no clue yet. I am not dating until I know I can get an erection. It would not do a woman's confidence any good to know she was bobbing "downtown" for 15 minutes or longer without getting a rise out of her husband/boyfriend, but I am still curious about how many men don't need a pump, because their wife/girlfriend helps him achieve the erection through foreplay that includes oral sex? Are there any such lucky men?

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richmaple | @richmaple | 3 days ago
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I ask this question somewhat facetiously, but truly with intent, but...
Have any men been able to achieve an erection with the "Tulip" method (a.k.a fellatio...oral sex)? I read all about pumps and guys recommendations on Trimix, but...why wouldn't the visual and feeling of your wife/girlfriend giving you oral sex be able to get a rise out of us? I am divorced, so I have no clue yet. I am not dating until I know I can get an erection. It would not do a woman's confidence any good to know she was bobbing "downtown" for 15 minutes or longer without getting a rise out of her husband/boyfriend, but I am still curious about how many men don't need a pump, because their wife/girlfriend helps him achieve the erection through foreplay that includes oral sex? Are there any such lucky men?

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@rlpostrp I can, at least in my case, achieve semi hardness, with a powerful but dry orgasm vis two lips and a tongue

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tmitch | @tmitch | 2 days ago
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@tmitch Thanks for the advice on the blue rings. I have a Vacuret pump, and it's great for therapy. But, for use with constriction , those rings are really PAINFUL to get off. Going to order the blue rings.

And, you mentioned you could say so much more....just curious, what things would be at the top of your list to share? Thanks!

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@fritzo
Howdy!
I didn't see my original post you were replying too to refresh my memory. I don't know why it was not showing but when I clicked above you comment it expanded in a gray box. It makes me wonder how many other valuable posts are not showing up....or if am I just clueless to what is happening. We all know we can be clueless as to how clueless we are ....ha ha.

I'm not sure what I had on my mind at that time. It must have been the wide subject of us all having such challenging times now and we have to figure things out to try to reach what used to be normal for us. I hope you will find the blue rings to be a much better experience. The original rings that came with my pump, when sliding off the tube, can probably be compared to putting the family jewels in a mouse trap! The improvement from the blue rings is huge as far as pain. As far as getting any of the rings off, lots of water based lube is essential. I found the further down (away from my body) I got them the more things got deflated if you know what I mean.....making it easier. But lots of lube and just taking it easy during the process.

If you have any other questions, don't hesitate to message me or however it works. I just recently became aware of the notification bell at the top letting me know if someone mentioned my name or commented.

I've been researching other things / devices to experiment with on this journey for improvement and healing. So many things are out there and many are or very well could be scams to take advantage of our desperate frame of mind.

One item I invested in is a FirmTech ring to wear at night which supposedly tracks nocturnal activities down there. It's important to know and it's the purpose of the 5mg Cialis to help ensure it's happening. Search for it. If you have any questions...I'm here. I honestly think it's a neat thing because it connects to my phone and I tracks nighttime activity.

Todd 🙂

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