High Lipoprotein(a) but CAC Score 0
Hi, I'm new to this discussion on heart and blood health.
I just recently took my first Lipoprotein(a) test. Since heart disease runs on my mother's side of the family I thought I should take the test. I'm 68, active at the gym, eat clean diet. The test result was 172 nmol. My PCP immediately suggested a statin (avorstatin?).
Two years ago I had a Cornary Artery Calcium (CAC) test because my husband was put on a statin and requested the same test. His cardiologist suggested I get the same. The result was 0.
Over the last 15 years my overall cholesterol has been going up. I just assumed this was menopause related. Both my HDL and LDL have been creeping up (triglycerides are ok). So for 15 years my doctors have all said don't worry, your covered by your HDL.
So here I am with my PCP suggesting a avorstatin (sp?). I don't want to take a statin just yet because I don't understand why I should. In addition, I have osteoporosis. I understand that statin's are not good for your bones.
Has anyone else experienced this? What did you do?
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@kathleen1314 definitely 😍 we're all different 😉
@kathleen1314 , yes it looks like we're somewhat similar.. exception my very high lpa. I'll be 69 this year and this is the first potential cardio issue in my life. I have no symptoms. My bloodwork standard lipid panel results came back slightly elevated overall, LDL and HDL but my doctor said not to worry. Then the lpa results and she's immediately recommending statin. I was caught off guard thinking I'm ok with CAC=0. The more I research the more I can see your comments are probably right on. My PCP is probably trying to protect me from a future event. However, I'd prefer more tests to understand the full picture before taking a statin. Even though the outcome may be the same, a statin. I also think I should consult with a cardiologist first. Thanks for your input.
@kathleen1314 , I would agree with you.
If you are 68 with a cac score of 0 that means your risk of a coronary event is very low despite your high LPa. Statins do nothing to lower LPa and a few studies showed that it might even increase it. Niacin ( vit B3) has been shown to lower it about 15-20% . There are some new drugs nearing approval that can lower it 80% or so.
But really with your cac score I would find something else to worry about although I would do a repeat test in a few years to see if it has increased and take action then if the increase is significant.
@leeosteo Statins do nothing to lower LPa and a few studies showed that it might even increase it. Niacin ( vit B3) has been shown to lower it about 15-20% . There are some new drugs nearing approval that can lower it 80% or so. At your age a cac score of 0 is actually unusual and I would find something else to worry about. Repeat the test in a few years just in case .
@dianempx Repatha does nothing to lower LPa. Currently B3 ( niacin) is the only substance that lowers LPa ..about 15%. There are some drugs likely to be approved this year that claim to lower it by 80%.
@bitsygirl "The point I was trying to make was that having the high score weighs on my mind. "
Over large populations the cac score is very predictive but on an individual basis it does not necessarily mean an event is impending. I am 68 and had a 600 score in my early 40's. My current score is north of 2300. I have had no symptoms or events. There are people out there with scores north of 6000 who are alive and well.
The limitation of the calcium scan is that it is not a test of the current total functionality of your heart. It estimates plaque burden in the major arteries and that spells trouble in most people at some point down the road. A better predictor of your immediate future is the good old stress test ( pass it and your chance of a cardiac event in the next year is minimal). Better yet there is a calculation derived from that called the Duke score. Anything above 5 on the Duke scale means that there is just a 1% chance of having an event in the next 4 years. The score starts with the amount of time you can stay on the treadmill and deducts points for things like angina, heart rythem issues etc. I have had several of em over the years and my most recent score was 13. The testing center will not volunteer this info...you have to ask for it. !
@leeosteo
Yes, I agree. I find that I have a "line" that I have to cross to feel "comfortable" with any decision. I have to feel that I have done everything I can and researched all options in order to feel comfortable with any medication or supplement. I have an additional problem though I overreact to most meds and many supplements. I see to have a genetic condition that lends to this reaction.
So for me to take a med like a statin I would have to be desperate, because there is a good chance, based on past experiences, that I will experience the one in a million reaction. My husband is different and is taking statins with good results. He loves them and is irritating me because my home now seems full of foods that we didn't eat before he felt statin would protect him from them...sigh
Something that is really helping me with working thru all my options is AI copilot. I am not as enamored with Ai google and the Google ai mode for personal health questions, but copilot is better at finding all options and placing them into context. Might give it a try and see if it helps you work thru your options.
@fmulhare
I actually think that this is very good advice. Run it by your doctor I bet they will agree to go with this measured and watch procedure for you.
@kathleen1314 , funny... I'm the exact same way with researching the condition and all options in order to feel comfortable with any medication. I have that "comfort line" also. I've never taken meds until my osteoporosis diagnosis. I took a year researching and met with a specialist before agreeing to take the med. I'm also sensitive to meds. I just tried AI co-pilot yesterday. It helped explain the medical issue and why doctors immediately go to statins. Then I got into diet and meal plans in co-pilot. Turns out that I'm eating exactly all the right foods now and have been most of my life. I guess this explains why my CAC=0. Maybe my risk factor (because of lpa) is low? More questions for the doctor (smile).