PMR and the Dr. Gundry Lectin elimination Food Plan

@caroljeand. You got me interested in the vibration therapy idea for inflammation. I looked it up and found this journal article on it. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11323691/. I had heard of it for muscle training and actually had an experience with it in Germany about 15 years ago. And, my wife actually used it as a therapy when recovering from knee surgery in Germany at that time. Not sure how it might enhance healing or help with PMR inflammation but worth investigation. I think that PMR inflammation is inflammation that has gone haywire or rogue. It is inflammation (systemic) that is not caused by some sort of trauma to the body. I have always looked at this kind of inflammation (PMR-type) as an overreaction of the CNS (central nervous system) and not as a response to some sort of trauma to our body. One might call that kind of inflammation a "healthy inflammatory response" while PMR inflammation is rogue and unwarranted.

@petermccarville
I see you believe acupuncture helps inflammation. Someone on here mentioned vibration therapy to relieve inflammation and pain of PMR. Do you have any thoughts with vibration treatment?

@lamoore This conversation has moved from Diet to other possible homeopathic treatments. I am going to attempt to re-center this post and discuss diet. I am a 25 year survivor of breast cancer and came to the realization 25 years ago that we very much "are what we eat". I moved to an organic food diet then. Twenty-five years ago there was little to none processed organic foods. This meant I went without potato chips and many other foods we take for granted. I learned to make bread, which is fun and relaxing once I mastered it. Now organic bread is easy to find. I discovered that organic foods had more flavor and were more filling with smaller servings.
When I was Dx with PMR in 2020 I looked into to diet changes about 2 years later and decided I would make one change at a time. My first, and to date my only diet change for PMR, was to eliminate refined sugar.
Refined sugar is simply food for inflammation - so by eating refined sugar you are feeding the PMR Beast.
The first month of no refined sugar was tough. No question on that. And I would cheat some, by the second month it was 10x easier. I am coming up on several years now and I do not even want desserts and other foods high in refined sugars. I can look at a bakery counter full of sugary treats, I think they are beautiful, however I have no interest in trying any of it.
The medical reward was my Lipid Panel looks better than it has looked in about 20 years. I had no idea that sugar elimination would do that. I am now on a med that requires semi-annual Lipid Panels. I enjoy my doctor mentioning what good numbers I have every time we run the panel.
To date I have made no other diet changes for PMR per se. I do believe that the sugar elimination helped, but it did not eliminate PMR. There are many anti-inflammatory diets on the market. Please research these and make an informed diet decision - because We Are What We Eat.

@jabrown0407
Sorry, that was me to help take this conversation on a left turn. ☺️
Yesterday I went to hear a presentation about gut health by a functional/ integrative doctor and she did not feel that lectins had that big of an effect on inflammation. Her take is to minimize if you feel it is necessary, but not necessarily eliminate the consumption. She also believes in eating whole food, probiotics, and in general living a healthy lifestyle with exercise and gentle movement, yoga and meditation.
We all need to live a calmer lifestyle, and get plenty of restful sleep… easier said than done!

@caroljeand In 2022 I was referred to one of the leading Functional Medicine clinics in the US and went thru their testing. They returned a 15 page report with all sorts of measurements of things I had never heard of - I reviewed it - went to the internet to read up so my appt with their practitioner would be comfortable for both of us. The practitioner did not explain a single result. She Rx 15 supplements and gave me no guidelines on how to start them - all at once, one at a time or how. She didn't mention which cause what side effects, which ones to take in am or pm or anything. I walked away before I got myself in trouble even further.
My GI doctor does not want his patients on probiotics as a daily dose. Yes, if you have 2-3 days of problems take them until things even out - then off. Let your body do it's job. How can you tell you have a more serious problem if you are covering it up?
Most supplements can be eliminated by diet and/or lifestyle changes. We have moved away from doing the right thing for the right reason. Living right is not something we have focused on, twisting us around to living right is not always easy. We want to get a quick fix or a single comprehensive fix and sometimes there just isn't one.
Stepping down from my soapbox. Thanks for your time and attention.

@lamoore This conversation has moved from Diet to other possible homeopathic treatments. I am going to attempt to re-center this post and discuss diet. I am a 25 year survivor of breast cancer and came to the realization 25 years ago that we very much "are what we eat". I moved to an organic food diet then. Twenty-five years ago there was little to none processed organic foods. This meant I went without potato chips and many other foods we take for granted. I learned to make bread, which is fun and relaxing once I mastered it. Now organic bread is easy to find. I discovered that organic foods had more flavor and were more filling with smaller servings.
When I was Dx with PMR in 2020 I looked into to diet changes about 2 years later and decided I would make one change at a time. My first, and to date my only diet change for PMR, was to eliminate refined sugar.
Refined sugar is simply food for inflammation - so by eating refined sugar you are feeding the PMR Beast.
The first month of no refined sugar was tough. No question on that. And I would cheat some, by the second month it was 10x easier. I am coming up on several years now and I do not even want desserts and other foods high in refined sugars. I can look at a bakery counter full of sugary treats, I think they are beautiful, however I have no interest in trying any of it.
The medical reward was my Lipid Panel looks better than it has looked in about 20 years. I had no idea that sugar elimination would do that. I am now on a med that requires semi-annual Lipid Panels. I enjoy my doctor mentioning what good numbers I have every time we run the panel.
To date I have made no other diet changes for PMR per se. I do believe that the sugar elimination helped, but it did not eliminate PMR. There are many anti-inflammatory diets on the market. Please research these and make an informed diet decision - because We Are What We Eat.

@petermccarville
If you feel PMR is not tied to trauma I have to share my experience with you.
Last June I caught the back of my foot in the storm door and ripped open the back of my heel. It was a traumatic injury and I needed seven stitches. It was a difficult recovery with swelling and inflammation. During recovery I was feeling strangely weak and attributed it to my body’s energy going to the healing.
Also my flexibility was compromised and eventually couldn't get in and out of the car and had trouble getting up and down off the toilet. The injury was last week of June and was officially diagnosed with PMR last week of August (took 3 weeks for an appointment)! I already knew I had PMR before the diagnosis as my mother had it and knew the symptoms.
The genetic link is real.
I always wondered if I would get PMR as I saw how miserable she was and dreaded getting it. Thankfully we have new means of dealing with it today.