Warning about Respify (brand name) CO3 gas CPAP cleaning device

Posted by dalebout123 @dalebout123, Jan 1 12:43pm

I am in the process of returning a product called RESPIFY. It is meant to clean CPAP and BIPAP hoses and devices without liquids. It is a small concentrator that produces O3 gas.

I don't know if I am extra sensitive or allergic, but an initial foray into its use, left me nauseated, light headed and with a headache. Now this was even after I put it in the included bag and moved it to another room.

I find it crazy that a product used to sanitize another product that is used for breathing problems could be marketed and have such dire results -- even if it is only my sensitivity. Just saying......

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@dalebout123 I'm not positive that the metabisulphite solution can be stores in plastic. I try to minimize my exposure to plastics anyway, which is why I prefer bottled beer over plastic-lined cans. Not that I drink much at all these years with a wonky heart (alcohol was never big in my life, thankfully, even with 30 years in the Army. Not muh thang.). You can purchase replaceable stopper bottles of beer, like Grolsch, or others, the ones with the heavy wire loop and ceramic stopper. Get a large liter bottle with that stopper, sometimes at those same DIY wine/beer stores. Store the solution in that. Note that, with exposure and time, the rubber gasket WILL harden and crack, as I have learned. Some of that is natural deterioration, but some is exposure to the sulphite....so that's why I tend to avoid storage in plastic. It's all organic, after all.

Yes, rinse well....everything you make the bisulphite contact. This is mostly for comfort, not quite so important for exposure, or unnecessary exposure. Your nose and taste buds will let you know you should have rinsed. The residue is minimal and should not harm you at all, but yes, rinse, please.

I have noticed a very faintly pink 'sludge' or a bloom once or twice in my water tank for the PAP machine, but that is only twice in eight years of use. It's only visible if you bother to peer at the inside of the tank AFTER you have discarded the dregs down a sink. It shows up better in good light, but with no water to speak of left in the tank. Even so, I refill my tank about every fourth day due to my particular settings. There's nothing wrong with emptying and refilling every night, even sterilizing the interior. Whatever floats yer boat. I don't, but when I do fill it every four days, I add some tap water, swirl, drain, and repeat. On the third time under the tap is when I fill it completely. This rinse disperses any concentration of minerals and insoluble organic materials that might eventually encourage that pink bloom.

For cleaning the tank every so often, you can use Scrub Free, or tile cleaner for bathrooms, toilet bowl cleaner, Javex, or any bleach, industrial strength vinegar (5% acetic acid, which some house owners use regularly for surface cleaning instead of bleach), or use the bisulphite. Just rinse well before restoring the properly filled reservoir to the PAP machine.

Yes, the metabisulphite is white and crystalline. Looks like table salt. One heaping tsp per 750 ml, or three cups of plain tap water. BTW, if you have decent tap water, and can drink it from the tap, that's all you need to use in your PAP machine. I have done so for eight years now. The secret, again, is to rinse really well before refilling the tank each time. You want to dilute the dissolved and non-soluble stuff in the dregs as much as possible to discourage that pink bloom.

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@gloaming What is "Pink bloom"? Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I am bery worried about keeping the equipment clean and free from fungi/bacteria forming stuff for respiratory infections.

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@gloaming What is "Pink bloom"? Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I am bery worried about keeping the equipment clean and free from fungi/bacteria forming stuff for respiratory infections.

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@kmnagy It is a very faint tint in the corners and seems like it could be a gelatinous film. It's hard to see, but once you do see it you'll know what it is immediately. It is a bio-film that is bacterial...I think....or like an algae maybe, but it shouldn't be there. I was none the worse for it even though I found it probably a few days after it had begun to establish itself.

I feel that daily rinsing and refilling will take care of the problem in most cases, but it couldn't hurt to run a vinegar or light bleach solution into the chamber and swish it around once a week or so. Maybe even peroxide would do it, which so many of us have in our bathroom cupboards.

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@kmnagy It is a very faint tint in the corners and seems like it could be a gelatinous film. It's hard to see, but once you do see it you'll know what it is immediately. It is a bio-film that is bacterial...I think....or like an algae maybe, but it shouldn't be there. I was none the worse for it even though I found it probably a few days after it had begun to establish itself.

I feel that daily rinsing and refilling will take care of the problem in most cases, but it couldn't hurt to run a vinegar or light bleach solution into the chamber and swish it around once a week or so. Maybe even peroxide would do it, which so many of us have in our bathroom cupboards.

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@gloaming makes sense. From my studies in microbiology many many years ago, and you are spot on. It is a "pink" growing bacteria that likes moisture.... and people can find it often in their bathrooms/kitchen/tiles and can be taken care of with bleach etc. I would have to look up the specific name, it has been some 40 years... it is something like serratia or klebsiella or enterobacteria....anyway thanks again. Learning so much and making my brain active again :).

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At the risk of seeming pedantic, I looked it up. "serratia marcescens" The reason I looked it up is that I have a lung, cold like sickness that looks suspiciously the symtoms from infection caused by this. Went to the PCP, day before yesterday. He told me to give it (my cold) three more days. It is bacterial, but resistant to antibiotics. I wash all my equipment carefully as I do when I have colds to keep reinfecting me. So right now I'm hoping it is a cold.

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At the risk of seeming pedantic, I looked it up. "serratia marcescens" The reason I looked it up is that I have a lung, cold like sickness that looks suspiciously the symtoms from infection caused by this. Went to the PCP, day before yesterday. He told me to give it (my cold) three more days. It is bacterial, but resistant to antibiotics. I wash all my equipment carefully as I do when I have colds to keep reinfecting me. So right now I'm hoping it is a cold.

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@dalebout123 My thoughts went write to serratia.....it loves moist warm areas and is rather hard to get rid of....most times you can Identify it as it has a pinkish color to it. Had an outbreak on the Urology Unit I worked on as a RN.... source was a water leak in the Cysto Clinic!

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Thank you, kdalda75. I think it is what I clean out of my room humidifier if I am understanding the description. My humidifier has a auto light that goes on to remind me to clean it. And if I let it go past the notice, there is this slimy residue on the inside. I thought maybe it was trying to get established in my BIPAP humidifier. I haven't seen anything that looks like it, but do extra cleanings with white vinigar just in case. I may be coming out of this sickness after day nine and maybe it is just the latest cold virus.
I appreciate you for taking time to respond.
Cheers,
Dana

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