Small Fiber Neuropathy biopsy test results
Last month I had a small fiber neuropathy biopsies of my left leg. Three skin biopsies were taken. One above the outside of my ankle, another near outside of my knee and another at upper outer thigh area.
The ankle and knee area biopsy came back negative but the upper outer thigh area nearer my hip came back positive.
How can I have two negative locations in my left leg for small fiber neuropathy yet the one on the outer side closer to where my thigh joins my hip was positive.?
Can anybody give any insight as to how this can be because I have sharp pains in my feet and pins and needles for 3 years now but the locations near my ankle and my knee were negative but the one nearer my outer thigh near my hip was positive.
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Thanks for your response. I am fairly close to a couple teaching hospitals. I do have a referral in to another neurology group in town too.
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@holly427 i had a similar situation, and I would go back to your P.CP and insist on her ordering a methylmalonic acid (MMA) test. It is just a simple blood draw and it will confirm whether you have functional B12 deficiency. I had a functional B12 deficiency because of elevated folate for 7 years and it caused irreversible nerve damage. So even though you're a biopsy may have come back negative, a long-term, undetected b12 deficiency can have many of the same symptoms as small fiber neuropathy. It is also possible that the nerves in those other two locations just aren't as far along in the disease progression. Just a theory
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3 ReactionsHello,
I’m really sorry about your dilemma. However, I’m wondering why they took 3 biopsies from you since, at least in my case where I had it done, they only took from two spots. Moreover, you might need a sweat test with the tilt table test in order to check further. I had those twice. The first time was negative. But the second time a few months later was positive. This is just a thought.
I wish you the best.
Take care and have a serene rest of your weekend,
gus
From my understand SFN is known to be patchy. I have never really had a good explanation as to why but I think part of it maybe due to different types of sensory nerves in different areas? If anyone can clarify this it would be great. For example C Fibres that do warm and hot, A-delta type that do cold. I also think that not only nerve fibre density matters but the morphology. C Fibres have no myelin sheath but a-delta fibres do so I postulate that you could have a normal nerve fibre density but the myelin sheath could still be damaged.
This is my thinking but I have been unable to confirm or deny it.
Jon
@larry4343 How lucky you are to have Anne Oaklander on your team! Her lectures of SFN (available on YouTube are the best I've found for understanding the disorder. She's a great teacher.
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2 ReactionsI'm sorry you're having trouble getting answers. I empathize. I had a skin punch biopsy done by a neurologist to see if I had Parkinson's (I don't). This procedure usually involves taking skin from three places, as yours did. The samples are then sent to a lab that specializes in analyzing them, and then the analysis goes to your doctor (and you, if you use a patient portal).
According to the research out there, the test is highly accurate for all kinds of diseases/disorders. The problem is that in research years, this test is a fairly recent addition to most doctors' magic bag of tricks, so some doctors may not be sure how to interpret the results and the usually brief analysis. My neurologist was familiar with the test as a PD screening tool, but she doesn't know a whole lot about SFN, so I've had to do some research on my own while finding the right doctor. The skin biopsy plus other test results indicate that I have an autoimmune disease, and I have an appointment the end of this month with a rheumatologist who specializes in them.
As I understand it, the biopsy is checking the density of the small fibers/nerves in your skin, the ones that are too small to be measured by an EMG. My results showed different numbers for the three different biopsy spots. My SFN is worse on my left side and worse down by the feet, less bad as it goes up the leg. That matches up with where I am the most numb.
That's about as far as my knowledge goes at this point, but I agree with the others who suggest that you find a doctor/specialist who's an expert. In the meantime, here's a link to an overview of SFN and testing that might be helpful. Good luck!
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