PVC nightmare
Hi, it’s me again. I’m sorry, but I’m just struggling really bad and this board is helping me. The PVCs have gotten worse and I had my worst day ever with him yesterday to the point I was having one every five seconds to 10 seconds and I just don’t understand. I took the potassium out of my morning meds this morning and started a multivitamin instead, and I kept the magnesium and for most of the day I thought they were gone minus a few here and there. But every night when it comes about 7 o’clock, they start coming and they keep coming and they keep coming and I just sometimes they feel different and they feel like my heart’s weaker or something. I don’t know how to explain it. I don’t get lightheaded. I don’t get dizzy. I don’t pass out and I know they’re benign because I’ve had every test you could possibly have with every specialist but I don’t wanna live this way. I can’t. It’s too hard. I’m scared to go do anything because I don’t want to ruin everybody else’s time by having a heart attack or going into a fib or something I’m 43. I don’t want to live the rest of my life like this.
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I sometime get PVCs and I started taking 1/2 teaspoon of magnesium citrate in warm water just befog going to bed each night. It seems be helping to the reduce their frequency. I also think it contributes to improved sleep quality overall. Sending best wishes your way.
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2 ReactionsI truly hear you! I also don't know what to tell you except that you have my empathy. I was diagnosed with A-fib about 15 months ago. I had a cardioversion after one month on Eliquis. I was placed on meds, they worked fine for a few months, then three episodes of A-fib (a few hours duration with each one) and I asked for an ablation. P.S. I left out a dozen lifestyle changes that sort of work, but age is the one I can't change. I tried an anti-arrhythymic for a few days and decided an ablation was the answer for me. I waited for several weeks to finish tests, get scheduled and then had the ablation on Nov. 24 of last year. Three weeks of heaven, then I started having "skipped beats" and when I went in for 6 week follow-up was told that I now have premature supraventricular complex--a different kind of arrhythymia! No A-fib so far, but just another version of annoying heart rhythm that "isn't going to kill me!" I had to ask to get my blood pressure medication restarted since it was discontinued after the ablation. I have had to seek my own information about this condition because the APRN who saw me said (and I quote) "well, we have to wait for 3 months before we can call the ablation a failure!" Needless to say, I am truly bummed, angry and pretty much fed up with this condition, as I can see that you are! I have to say that, like you, I don't have shortness of breath, weakness or severe discomfort, but after a big $100,000 procedure, one could hope for a little more "success" and a whole lot more consideration from the EP team. I have made up my mind that I will see my regular cardiologist to adjust my meds, hopefully give me some more info on the condition and then insist that I see the real EP for the final checkup--not an APRN. If I were you, I guess I would be on the phone either getting the cardiologist to help you ASAP or else find a new one! I'm a nurse and I can tell you, unless you advocate for yourself and forcefully, you won't get any attention! I do hope you can find something that will alieviate the sensations; mine are usually worse at night too! When all else fails, I take two extra strength Tylenol and usually it will block out the discomfort so at least I can get 2 to 4 hours of decent sleep. Good luck and keep searching for answers!
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2 Reactions@sjm46 It is common for two new arrhythmias, PACs and flutter, to take the place of AF after an ablation. Dismayingly common to those EPs who feel they've successfully, and conscientiously, nipped your AF when they send you away from the cath lab. 🙁
If it is news to you, approximately 25% of all index ablations are failures. Those patients need a touchup, and it's usually about 5-8 months after the first ablation. And yes, that blanking period is exceedingly important as a step to ensure the heart calms enough to be deemed successfully ablated by the time the Holter is administered. Even so, I have read posts by people who say they had their last bout of ectopy many months after what was seen as a failed ablation, but now have gone years without any blips. So, the three month blanking period is a 'one-size-fits-all' guesstimate.
I agree, and I'm not even a nurse, every grownup has the responsibility to manage their life, including how they seek diagnoses, assistance, advice, and how they elect to follow the various prescriptions.
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1 Reaction@sjm46 I sympathize with you because it’s terrible. I’ve been dealing with PVCs my whole life, but they’ve progressively gotten worse and I’m on medication for it. I have an electrophysiologist a cardiologist psychiatrist a psychologist a therapist a PCP I’ve had all of the test plus I demanded a cardiac MRI a couple of years ago because my panic disorder would not let me let it go and of course everything was perfect and they laughed at me for wanting it done, but my mind doesn’t stop thinking the worst once they start up and I’m trying to be a Mom and work two jobs and it’s just you would think by this time with all of the breakthroughs in the medical world that we would have some kind of answer for these arrhythmias and PVCs, besides telling somebody they are benign. you’re fine. You. have to learn to live with them“
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2 Reactions@kpryor1982 I so agree with you! It just "eats" at you after awhile. You do all the right things--lifestyle changes that they "accuse" you of having to "explain" why you are the one with these arrhythymias: high blood pressure (treated and controlled), caffeine (one lousy cup of 1/2 caf every morning!), no alcohol ever!, no sleep apnea, lost 12 pounds and I wasn't overweight to begin with!, no salty/processed foods (we live on veggies and I never eat red meat--oh excuse me, a lousy hamburger once in a while--oh and Cheetos occasionally LOL), never smoked, no heart disease, WHAT? Oh, I am old! I can't fix that! So I send you my deepest empathy. I agree with you! It drives me nuts. I think you have made me feel better than any of the docs! 🙂 We just have to hang in there I guess. We "live with it" until we don't!
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2 ReactionsIs 7PM before, during, or after dinner?
There can be relationships between eating and arrhythmias, probably more related to vagus nerve activity, and more.
Are you active or resting when they occur?
Whichever you're doing - try the other!
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2 Reactions@carbcounter it just picks up so much at or around 7pm. I’m not eating much due to being on glp1. Which yes I believe is contributing. But my EP says the PVCs are benign and suggests I continue on with the weight loss as that is more debilitating further down the road. I don’t know what to do. I don’t usually have them while exercising but lately it’s hit or miss. Definitely notice them more at night due to quiet and not go go go like during the day.
@sjm46 thank you so much for being there and let’s continue to chat because it does make me feel better. It’s so hard out here when nobody understands and nobody in my family has them so they don’t understand and a lot of people just look at me like I’m crazy.🩷
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1 Reaction@kpryor1982 well, I've been there too, had it seriously bad for one year and doctor after doctor just shrugged it off, and plenty bad enough for several more years, but I'll give the doctors this much - I survived, with apparently no lasting effects, afaik.
I was in the hospital for a few days for something else, and hooked to the monitor for a few hours, and the PVC and PAC lights are going off like a pinball machine, and the computer didn't care, and the nurses didn't care, and the doctors didn't care. Been on Holters and AI Holters and "Event Monitors", and the event monitor went off a few times but NOT from the PVCs and PACs, and the AI Holter reported "NOTHING" when I had hundreds of PVCs and PACs including some (or something else?) that left me almost unable to walk. "Nothing". SMH
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1 Reaction@kpryor1982 my god.
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