Aggressive Bladder Cancer: Tips to help hold meds in bladder?

Posted by jimg56 @jimg56, Jan 26, 2025

My husband is on his third Infusion treatment with gemcitibine . So far no real side effects or problems. The only thing he is having a rough time with is holding the drug in his bladder for the hour. We have to stay there as they have to leave cathedar in so meds stay in his bladder. Some people can get the infusion and leave but he cant hold it in so we stay.
It is uncomfortable in waves for him. It comes and goes.
We get through it as I sit with him and watch tv in his private little space @ the hospital.

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Is it an alternative treatment to BCG ??
Wish him all the best and recovery

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I am receiving treatment within my bladder as well. I have gemcitibine for 1 1/2 hours, with the catheter still in. Then, they drain the bladder and instill the docetaxyl and send me home. I make sure I know the exact time it is instilled, so I can release it as soon as it has been in for 90 minutes.

What I do to help myself is geared toward having my brain create endorphins. Those are your natural pain killers.

For me, it is watching a happy movie. Not only does it make time pass faster, but it creates those natural painkillers.

Here is what else I have tried to make myself more comfortable. First of all, be sure to take the bicarbonate of soda. At first, the instructions were to take it the night before and the morning of, but it has changed to five days prior, twice per day. The increased dosage of that seems to help. You can also get it from Amazon if your doctor didn't prescribe enough. My prescription has the new instructions, but the quantity didn't change. Amazon was cheaper anyway.

The size of the catheter turned out to be important. I need a very small size and they had to order one, so at first, it was more uncomfortable than it needed to be. Be sure you don't have a size too big - if it hurts just from having the catheter in, ask about that. It is for your comfort, not for their convenience. Mine took a month to arrive, but now they have a supply for me. (I am now in once/month for a year, after completing the six weekly treatments).

Also, if you can stand being thirsty, you might find that limiting liquids for 12 hours or so prior to the treatment means less urine adding itself to your bladder while you are holding in the treatment. I find it helps, but isn't always worth it to feel thirsty. Personal choice...

Other cozy things that help my brain to release endorphins are cozy socks and a really fluffy 'blanket' in place of the doctor's office paper sheet! A chemo-survivor friend gave me a care package of hard candies, chocolates and a crossword puzzle book. I don't try to work puzzles - I would rather sit back and be entertained by a movie.

I take along my iPad and have movies that are happy downloaded. I watch a movie the entire time I am there. I am released after the first drug is drained and the second one is installed.

I drive carefully. Fortunately there are no bumpy roads. Then I finish out the rest of the 90 minutes of the second dose on my sofa while I finish watching the movie. I then turn on the TV - I also set an alarm when I get into my house and as soon as it goes off, I am headed to the restroom to release the chemo.

It is usually awhile before I get any side effects like a headache, and often I fall asleep for quite awhile.

I wait until the headache appears before I take some excedrine, which gets rid of it and it doesn't come back.

Just try things rather than putting up with status quo. Be inventive. Most of all, be patient with yourself. Listen to your body and try things that you feel will provide comfort. We are each different.

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@bethcamp I only have gemcitibine, no fluids for 4 hours prior to treatment and two sodium bicarbonate the night before and two in the morning of. I needed the smallest catheter also and after 3 tries with 3 different catheters, the nurse checked for the smallest.

I completed the infusions and have a scope on December 17th. I’ve heard that I may have to continue once a month but won’t know anything until the scope.

If I do have to have additional treatments I will definitely take your suggestion and bring a warm blanket with me. I hated that sheet.

Thank you for the info. Very helpful

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@bethcamp I only have gemcitibine, no fluids for 4 hours prior to treatment and two sodium bicarbonate the night before and two in the morning of. I needed the smallest catheter also and after 3 tries with 3 different catheters, the nurse checked for the smallest.

I completed the infusions and have a scope on December 17th. I’ve heard that I may have to continue once a month but won’t know anything until the scope.

If I do have to have additional treatments I will definitely take your suggestion and bring a warm blanket with me. I hated that sheet.

Thank you for the info. Very helpful

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@linda0234 Hi,..I'm 62, and am having my First Treatment this Wednesday,...I am Terrified of this Catheter Issue, and just the Whole insertion of the Catheter...After my 2 Precedures involving the Catheter...It was the most Miseable Experience I have ever been thru....Can't they Put me out for this Treatment...and this Feeling of "To Pee" and after the Pain that goes with this....I dont know what to Do here....
Wednesday is coming fast....With my Anxiety level to hit the Roof,
isnt there any other Way to get this BCG in my Bladder....
Todd

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Hang in there. During my initial six BCG treatments I came to dread the catheter less and less. My nurse uses lidocaine and frankly that’s (to me) worse than the catheter. She also has me “breathe through it.” Also - to hold the meds, ask about Rx Flomax and/or Mirabegron. I’d ask now in case the Rx has to be filled at your local pharmacy. PS - a CBD gummy (not THC) helps ease my anxiety a bit. You will get through this!

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As I think I've mentioned elsewhere, I had 5 instillations of Gemcitabine and Docetaxel.
The catheter was clamped off during Gem and after a few minutes would sometimes become a bit painful, so I called the nurse and she released a little of the pressure, but letting out a very small amount of the chemo, but only a very little. It was still uncomfortable but bearable for the hour. The Dox was not clamped off and was no problem. After an hour I would pee it out and drive home.
For me, the secret(!) was having the right diameter catheter, understanding nurses and the use of Lidocaine, which is apparently only used for males.

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