Want to share with other victims of narcissism (NPD)

Posted by purplewings @yellowings, Jun 28, 2017

I am interested in sharing with victims of narcissism who understand that this is a medical condition that has no cure known. The goal is to share to cope with the remaining symptoms of abuse, which are traumatic and permanent.

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Greetings friends .... oh my, after a 40 year marriage to a man with NPD, I could write a book, but I've got so many I've purchased through those hellish years that I couldn't add to them. I was married at 21 ..... way too young for a young woman who was raised an only child, in a family of alcoholics, abused in every form and spent my Fri. and Sat. nights in bars from the time I first remember. I won't go into what happened there. Basically my life consisted of hiding out so I wouldn't get hurt. Then I met my soon-to-be husband ...... knew all the right words to make me feel good about myself. 5 years later we were married. When I worked and put him through school things were good ..... I loved my job. Then we began to have children after he graduated and got a job down near D.C. That changed everything. No question he was a good Dad, and still is (but always with a critical edge), but to me I was just a cook, housekeeper, sexual partner ..... sort of a French maid. I'd always hear things like "pinhead" when he didn't like my hair cut, "don't you think you should do your excerises?" (This was right after our babies were born); why were you out so late? I worked at our church on staff and oversaw the Weds. night Pioneer Club .... so when I came home it was about 10:30 .... the garage door opening "woke him up" ..... I went into therapy and my doctor told me, after a few years, that if I didn't get out of that abusive home (kids all grown by this time) he would have to admit me to Brooklane .... a local private Psychiatric Hospital. That did it ...... I was out in 2 days. He would not go to therapy, and when I finally convinced him to try it, the doctor asked us each to say several good qualities each of us had. I had no problems with that because despite all the "N" characteristics, he was a good Dad, good provider, hard worker, etc. When it came to his turn, he thought awhile and all he could say was, "she's a good mother." Nothing else. With that I got up and walked out and went to my lawyer the next day. I spent 40 years giving my all to him and raising our kids, and now here I am ...... headed for a low-income apartment. I don't really mind that at all. People are people everywhere you go and I make friends pretty easily. He's still his old "N" self, busy every day to keep his face out there, and is just involved in everything he possibly could be. He's running away from himself instead of facing himself honestly.
N's are "tough nuts to crack" as my Psychiatrist told me (he Rx's the meds.), and he rarely sees them change. I didn't recognize the abuse when I was in it because that's how I grew up .... I was prime for that.
Read, read, read everything you can about Narcissism ..... if you need suggestions, I've got plenty. You do not need to be treated like a low-class citizen .... you are worth more than that, even though I know you don't believe that now. Get help and claw your way out of this mire of destruction.
abby

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@yellowings, Connect is an open and inclusive community built on respect. Our stories are what we share and help us heal. The community thrives on members mentoring members. Some members may be further along their healing journey than others. As such, we all learn and grow.

@amberpep, your experience is welcome here. I thank you for sharing it and for responding to my tag. Yellowings, your story is welcome, too. I hope your wings will envelope those who choose to contribute to this discussion according to their stage of healing.

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Greetings friends .... oh my, after a 40 year marriage to a man with NPD, I could write a book, but I've got so many I've purchased through those hellish years that I couldn't add to them. I was married at 21 ..... way too young for a young woman who was raised an only child, in a family of alcoholics, abused in every form and spent my Fri. and Sat. nights in bars from the time I first remember. I won't go into what happened there. Basically my life consisted of hiding out so I wouldn't get hurt. Then I met my soon-to-be husband ...... knew all the right words to make me feel good about myself. 5 years later we were married. When I worked and put him through school things were good ..... I loved my job. Then we began to have children after he graduated and got a job down near D.C. That changed everything. No question he was a good Dad, and still is (but always with a critical edge), but to me I was just a cook, housekeeper, sexual partner ..... sort of a French maid. I'd always hear things like "pinhead" when he didn't like my hair cut, "don't you think you should do your excerises?" (This was right after our babies were born); why were you out so late? I worked at our church on staff and oversaw the Weds. night Pioneer Club .... so when I came home it was about 10:30 .... the garage door opening "woke him up" ..... I went into therapy and my doctor told me, after a few years, that if I didn't get out of that abusive home (kids all grown by this time) he would have to admit me to Brooklane .... a local private Psychiatric Hospital. That did it ...... I was out in 2 days. He would not go to therapy, and when I finally convinced him to try it, the doctor asked us each to say several good qualities each of us had. I had no problems with that because despite all the "N" characteristics, he was a good Dad, good provider, hard worker, etc. When it came to his turn, he thought awhile and all he could say was, "she's a good mother." Nothing else. With that I got up and walked out and went to my lawyer the next day. I spent 40 years giving my all to him and raising our kids, and now here I am ...... headed for a low-income apartment. I don't really mind that at all. People are people everywhere you go and I make friends pretty easily. He's still his old "N" self, busy every day to keep his face out there, and is just involved in everything he possibly could be. He's running away from himself instead of facing himself honestly.
N's are "tough nuts to crack" as my Psychiatrist told me (he Rx's the meds.), and he rarely sees them change. I didn't recognize the abuse when I was in it because that's how I grew up .... I was prime for that.
Read, read, read everything you can about Narcissism ..... if you need suggestions, I've got plenty. You do not need to be treated like a low-class citizen .... you are worth more than that, even though I know you don't believe that now. Get help and claw your way out of this mire of destruction.
abby

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Thank you for yout comments and welcome.

As long as we are on a healing mode, i can attempt to share my insights. As i said, i am not supposed to participate in activities that increase my level of stress. Re-living extreme past exposure to narcissistic abuse is not recommended for me. Regretfully, i may not be the person to participate in this group discussion.

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Most of the time, ppl have "narcissistic" characteristics without being real narcissists. Only professionals, which I am not, can diagnose a narcissist. This usually cannot happen bc these individuals are not aware of their condition and do not seek treatment.

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As a bopolar person, i knew immediately that there was something wrong with me AT TIMES. Ppl tend to DENY their different feelings but they usually make symptoms more obvious. Narcs are legitimally unaware of their obnoxiousness, their contradicted lies, their paranoia, etc. It is impossible to reason with them. We believe their maneuvers bc we love them or need them. We destroy our self-esteem when they discard us by betraying us fatally.

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After being with him for 16 years, the last 5 have have gotten so bad. Then last year just...when I think about the abuse, Physically , mentally, verbally. The craziness is knocking me down big time. Three weeks ago, not only did he steal my car, he stole my house keyskeys hacked all my accounts on Google, text messages, on Facebook put under my profile picture. " I sell my ass for cr-ck .10 to 20 threatening voicemails a day. He also stole a ring of my mother's that she gave me right before she passed three years ago. Trying to blackmail me with it. This only half of it. Police reports about the car. Spoke to them regarding a restraining order but by the time they would get to me I most likely would have been dead. I had to change all passwords. I don't think people get the severity of what a narcissist is capable of doing. I so afraid, especially at night. I am following through with the steps they're telling me to do but they don't understand that I might not make you fruishion. He just keeps at it meanwhile, doing , filing, fixing my car dealing Dad dieing last week. I'm somewhat of a strong person. I would like to think. Been living with lung cancer for 8 years now. Brother died 12 years ago, mom died 3 years ago and now my father. I don't know how much more I can take before I go jail or he gets me first. I'm dealing with a sick, rotten to the core individual.

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After being with him for 16 years, the last 5 have have gotten so bad. Then last year just...when I think about the abuse, Physically , mentally, verbally. The craziness is knocking me down big time. Three weeks ago, not only did he steal my car, he stole my house keyskeys hacked all my accounts on Google, text messages, on Facebook put under my profile picture. " I sell my ass for cr-ck .10 to 20 threatening voicemails a day. He also stole a ring of my mother's that she gave me right before she passed three years ago. Trying to blackmail me with it. This only half of it. Police reports about the car. Spoke to them regarding a restraining order but by the time they would get to me I most likely would have been dead. I had to change all passwords. I don't think people get the severity of what a narcissist is capable of doing. I so afraid, especially at night. I am following through with the steps they're telling me to do but they don't understand that I might not make you fruishion. He just keeps at it meanwhile, doing , filing, fixing my car dealing Dad dieing last week. I'm somewhat of a strong person. I would like to think. Been living with lung cancer for 8 years now. Brother died 12 years ago, mom died 3 years ago and now my father. I don't know how much more I can take before I go jail or he gets me first. I'm dealing with a sick, rotten to the core individual.

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@mailtodana66 I do not know where you live, but there are shelters that can hide you from him. I hate to say it, but it only gets worse and he sounds like a psychopath. I know there are resources here, where I live that take women and men in and help them get away. Do not allow him to know that you are planning anything, either. If he is as he sounds, he probably monitors your phone as well. Have you looked into any shelters that have housing for domestic violence victims?

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People with narcissistic personality disorder are a bit different than narcissistic people. That is not to say that narcissism is easier to deal with. We all have a bit of it, but people with NPD or those with antisocial personality's can be dangerous. They are hard to spot. They are charming, and the best liars I have ever seen. I recommend listening to Dr. Ramani on YouTube. I had a family member diagnosed with NPD and it is painful to realize a person you loved and trusted is someone that you never really knew. On the other side, a lot of people with these traits have trauma in their childhoods. The narcissism seems to have become a survival skill for them, hence the lack of empathy, etc. It is a strange and devastating disorder for anyone on the receiving end of them and takes time to start recovery from a relationship. The last person I had a relationship with, was a wolf in sheep's clothing and I was devastated when it all blew up and their mask fell off, but it is possible to start recovering from it. The trauma bond is still in me, but I see it now and can remind myself that the person I thought I knew, never existed.

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I was in a narcissistic relationship for eight years. Eight years of leaving him and going back. We were married, I divorced him, and still went back. I lost everything! My career, my retirement, my friends, my family, sentimental items....he was evil. I moved to a different state and lived with my daughter over the winter, in order to detox from him and never go back. This daughter is the only family member who never gave up on me. The rest of my children and my siblings have nothing to do with me anymore. Same with my friends. They were tired of helping me escape and finding out I went back. The cognitive damage is bad. I have short term memory loss and confusion. I've been let go from three jobs in a row because of this. I hope the cognitive damage will heal.

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I was in a narcissistic relationship for eight years. Eight years of leaving him and going back. We were married, I divorced him, and still went back. I lost everything! My career, my retirement, my friends, my family, sentimental items....he was evil. I moved to a different state and lived with my daughter over the winter, in order to detox from him and never go back. This daughter is the only family member who never gave up on me. The rest of my children and my siblings have nothing to do with me anymore. Same with my friends. They were tired of helping me escape and finding out I went back. The cognitive damage is bad. I have short term memory loss and confusion. I've been let go from three jobs in a row because of this. I hope the cognitive damage will heal.

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@dmbwa99362 There is a book called, "The Body Keeps Score." I have not finished reading it yet, but I am going to. Being in an abusive relationship whether emotional, physical or both, especially with someone that is NPD or Anti-social is some serious trauma. I have been in therapy for 6 years since I got sober and I am really working on trying to love myself. My father was NPD and as an adult, I tend to gravitate towards familiarity. I believe most of us do. Being fooled by a person with that kind of personality is trauma. Do not let anyone tell you it is not. I will say that if those people were your real friends, they would still be around. It is similar to domestic violence and that cycle. The bond is real to the victim and it is so "normal" to believe "I am sorry, that won't ever happen again." It is a vicious merry go round and is hard to step off of. People say things like, "Why don't you just leave him/her?" Only a person that has walked in another's foot steps will understand that it is not as easy as "just leave." I applaud you for getting away from that relationship. Trauma causes cognitive issues, but the good news is that the brain is able to heal itself. It takes time but YOU are resilient and strong and still alive!!!

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@dmbwa99362 There is a book called, "The Body Keeps Score." I have not finished reading it yet, but I am going to. Being in an abusive relationship whether emotional, physical or both, especially with someone that is NPD or Anti-social is some serious trauma. I have been in therapy for 6 years since I got sober and I am really working on trying to love myself. My father was NPD and as an adult, I tend to gravitate towards familiarity. I believe most of us do. Being fooled by a person with that kind of personality is trauma. Do not let anyone tell you it is not. I will say that if those people were your real friends, they would still be around. It is similar to domestic violence and that cycle. The bond is real to the victim and it is so "normal" to believe "I am sorry, that won't ever happen again." It is a vicious merry go round and is hard to step off of. People say things like, "Why don't you just leave him/her?" Only a person that has walked in another's foot steps will understand that it is not as easy as "just leave." I applaud you for getting away from that relationship. Trauma causes cognitive issues, but the good news is that the brain is able to heal itself. It takes time but YOU are resilient and strong and still alive!!!

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@diverdown1 thank you! I am still living with my daughter and I am so thankful for her help. My other children are corresponding with me. I don't miss the fake friends. I'm anxious to make real friends once I feel confident to meet people. Right now my social anxiety and trust issues are still huge. People who have never been involved with a narcissist, whether it be a family member or a relationship, do not understand the narcissist type of abuse. It's easy for them to want to help but because they don't understand that abuse cycle, they get frustrated and sometimes mad because I went back to him. My sister stopped communicating with me because of this. I've often thought about starting a narcissism support group in my area, and may do so!

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After being with him for 16 years, the last 5 have have gotten so bad. Then last year just...when I think about the abuse, Physically , mentally, verbally. The craziness is knocking me down big time. Three weeks ago, not only did he steal my car, he stole my house keyskeys hacked all my accounts on Google, text messages, on Facebook put under my profile picture. " I sell my ass for cr-ck .10 to 20 threatening voicemails a day. He also stole a ring of my mother's that she gave me right before she passed three years ago. Trying to blackmail me with it. This only half of it. Police reports about the car. Spoke to them regarding a restraining order but by the time they would get to me I most likely would have been dead. I had to change all passwords. I don't think people get the severity of what a narcissist is capable of doing. I so afraid, especially at night. I am following through with the steps they're telling me to do but they don't understand that I might not make you fruishion. He just keeps at it meanwhile, doing , filing, fixing my car dealing Dad dieing last week. I'm somewhat of a strong person. I would like to think. Been living with lung cancer for 8 years now. Brother died 12 years ago, mom died 3 years ago and now my father. I don't know how much more I can take before I go jail or he gets me first. I'm dealing with a sick, rotten to the core individual.

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@mailtodana66 My childhood was horrible, due to a malignant narcissistic Mom, and a narcissistic Dad, who was spoiled by his Mom, for many years. I lived in the basement, was considered the black sheep, of the family. I was treated like a slave for 15 years, where i was beaten by both of my parents! My 2 brothers and 2 sisters shared a room each. They were treated like normal by my parents. My parents paid for my younger brother’s education, and never would give me a penny for a college education. My brother is an extremely successful attorney! In my senior year, in high school, my Dad threw me down the basement steps, onto the cold, cement floor, in a fit of rage, because my Mom was nagging him! I was hurt bad! My leg was twisted a bit, and my knee was hurting badly, where it swelled up like a balloon! I could hardly move, dealing with the pain. I cried out ‘help’, and my Mom and Dad started arguing with each other! Neither one of them would help me, or take me to hospital emergency room. After a couple hours, where I was suffering in excruciating pain, my younger sister called my married older sister, and asked her to come over and take me to the E.R. My sister came right away. She helped me hobble up the basement stairs, into the car! My parents would not help her get me up the steps and into the car. Instead, they both yelled at us, and told me and my sister that they’d kill us, if we ever told Doctor’s or ER nurses that my Dad had beat me up & threw me down the basement steps! I never returned home after that! I was on crutches for 6 months, and have had daily knee pain, ever since! I stayed with my sister for a few years, and lived with a Christian family, helping out with chores etc., during my college years! I put myself through college, working 3 part time jobs during the school year, and full time during the summers, working on the railroad! I had a very successful business career, working for a world manufacturer, and I had a good family life! I paid for my only child to get a college education, in a medical, professional field, and she graduated Magna Cum Laude! I am now nearly 80, with many health problems, but I am happy that I had gotten out of the ‘lair’ of a malignant narcissist, and have had a good life, until just recently!

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