Lipo-Flavonoid for ringing in ears
Hello, I'm new hear, but am on some of the other groups. I have had this ringing in my ears for several weeks, sort of like crickets,.. Someone in one of the groups said they took lipo Flavonoid for this and It helped. them..I that time I didn't need it.., Has anyone here ever tried it and if so did it help.. What have you tried that helped.??
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Unfortunately, the pharmaceuticals learn off of us when a drug does not work with all of it's side effects including the tinnitus, vertigo and other vestibular manifestations like you exhibited. One reason they took it off of the market for bad marketing, too many side effects and outcomes of the drug use and perhaps evidence of poor trials before allowing it to be used before giving out to the public.
Money is always involved along with competition among the big pharmaceutical companies. The FDA has some say in who can put any drug out on the market and when, so if there is any iffy on any medicine, they may say NO but sometimes pressure is put on to allow a temporary trial for use to see if it may work. We don't always know if this is going on behind the scenes except for when the drug/medicine is prescribed to us and we use it. When the reporting comes in of severe side effects from physicians and reporting to SIDE EFFECTS of pharmaceutical websites come crashing in - then the drug is pulled off of the market and is no longer available to the public. Further investigation is done on that particular drug to see why it caused the side effects by the FDA. Records are kept of deaths, and disabilities and the like by the CDC, FDA and other government organizations. We are not privy to those records. BUT we suffer the consequences of their mistakes. Especially when they do not consider that most of the drugs/medicines on the market today cause tinnitus/vertigo/ hearing loss/vestibular injury of some kind/ and other brain injuries. Just look in any drug book and check out any medicine's side effect. Where the drug comes from also tells you if it is pure or if it has heavy metals added to it or other unnecessary ingredients to 'make it work' better for you. [or to kill you] Always question first, what is the medicine - class of drug - what will it do for me - for how long - will it interact with my other drugs/medicines that I take right now, including the OTCs - what are the side effects - and will it make my current symptoms worse? These are good questions for your pharmacist to answer since the prescribing MD will not understand who to answer these questions. Always trust your pharmacist .... I do because he knows me and defends me from actions taken by my many specialists.
I have been suffering with tinnitus for several years now . And I also have a vibration in the lower portion of my spine. What I have recently realized is that the vibration of the lower spine gets a lot worse depending upon what I eat. For instance, sugar and white flour (which is contained in foods that I enjoy the most) or any high carb meal of any sort will cause the vibration in my spine to get intense AND "likewise, so does my tinnitus get much louder. I'm also realizing that it isn't just sugar and white flour that intensifies the tinnitus and lower spine vibration. A glass of wine will do the same and too much sugar in any form (fruit for example) can also cause the vibrations and tinnitus to get worse. My blood sugar tests fall within the normal range so I am now awaiting an appointment with a highly recommended neurologist with the hope that he will have some answers for me...because these two symptoms are really life altering for me...and so far the only thing helping me is gabapentin which eliminates the vibration of the spine but doesn't seem to help the tinnitus...I have also read that various medications...can... as a side affect cause tinnitus..
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2 ReactionsVibrations of the spine is a new symptom to me - I have not heard of that one. May be a neurological manifestation that may be associated with more than just your vestibular system. Perhaps an ENT evaluation may be in your future if you have more hearing issues. Tinnitus is a mysterious symptom that all scientist do not know how to approach since it is a subjective rather than an objective symptom. The patient knows it's there but the physician/scientist can't see it or hear it. It's a phantom symptom as a result of some type of injury to the brain as a result of any number of different type of injuries from A-Z. Each person exhibits different types of tinnitus and tell the physician what they are hearing.
Yes - what we eat will influence it as well as how we move since our brain controls much of what we do to live. We can not do much without our brains. Sleep, walk, eat, move, think, everything that interacts with our brain, including our gut influences how our brain. Noise, quiet, movement, standing still...all the walks of life will affect how , what, why and how we feel.
Medications are sneaky since they can fool our brains into either making us well and then not allowing us to ever getting off of the med, or they cause us to get very sick with disturbing side effects. Tinnitus, can not be treated with medications they have found since the innerworkings in the brain is broken and can't be fixed. All we can do is learn to deal with it and work around it by avoiding things that aggravate it. Avoid loud noises, all the 'white stuff', avoid excessive use of antibiotics, in other words, if you find that there is a trigger, stop it and find an alternative. Learn to live with it until they find something that will less the buzz Eloise
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1 ReactionI'm new here, and my mother has convinced me to try Lipo-Flavonoid because she has tinnitus as I do and she says it is working for her. She is 83 and I have no idea why or how hers started, but mine started about 22 or so years ago in 2004 when I was 40 years old.
I had had headaches for as long as I could remember. I grew up on a farm with 1 real brother, a step brother and sister , and a half brother. We were rough and tough and I played football and basketball in high school, when football was ROUGH! When we hit someone, it was to put them out of the game, and that was the purpose of the other teams and I played just about every game,ball game for four years on varsity. It helps to learn lots of positions, when there aren't many players. Sure we had pads but, they weren't that great. They weren't even good ones. And then we would get together on weekends to play without them. Anyways, work on the farm was tough and my step father didn't make it any easier. A hit beside the head or hand with a crescent wrench or whatever was in his hand was fairly common. Headaches were a common thing. Every morning, breakfast started of with a handful of extra strength Tylenol chewed up followed by pepsi cola.
When I got to 40 years old I left work at my 911 job following my 3-11 shift and went home and chewed up another handful of Tylenol. At around I say, 7:30- 8:00, the worst headache of my life hit. Felt like a bomb went off in my skull, I puked and started sweating and cussing and screaming. My wife called 911 and they came and picked me up took me to the ER, and my er Dr was my high school science teacher. No, kidding. He was a great teacher though, I made the last teacher quit, I was not the best student or a nice person, and when he showed up, my grade average was 32. After him, I passed with an 85so, decent teacher. I had had ruptured AVM.
Our little hospital could not handle it so they sent me to Duke Hospital in Durham . It is located in a spot that cannot be located on so they came up with gamma knife radiotherapy, or stereotactic radiation. They bolted a square frame box to my head, then bolted that to a big stainless steel table then shot what was then the strongest radiation beams allowed into my brain to certain parts of my brain to try to hit the hole to get it to close, stop the bleeding and heal, all while trying to hit the least amount of critical parts as possible. Then it was return every 6 months for MRIs to check and see what, if any thing was happening. The first 6 months. No change. Second 6 months, no change. Same as the 3rd and 4th 6 months, no change. I started hearing a faint ring. Not in my ears, more, inside my head. How, did I know? I still get ringing in my ears, even to this day. The visits slowed to MRIs every 12 months, for 3 years then every 24 months. During the second 6 month visit, I was telling the doctors at my visit that I was having horrible headaches. They were, horrendous. Came on all of a sudden, out of the blue, I mean took my breath away, made me grab hold of things and I couldn't let go. They told me, they couldn't check me out, I had to go to the ER. WTF? I am in the Neurology Department of Duke University, talking to head of neurology, and the doctor that had put my shunt in, and you can't check me out? I drove 4 hours to be here this morning at 6:00 am to be at my MRI appointment and you can't take 20 minutes to check me out and I am sitting at my appointment, in your office? Just go around to the ER, we will call them and tell them you are coming, they will take you right back and see you right away. We left, drive right around, walked in, told them who we were, and what our beloved Drs told us to say and they looked at us like we were aliens from Jupiter. Uhhhh, have a seat, we will call you. My wife and I sat there for 6 hours. 6 (SIX) FREAKING HOURS waiting, watching as other people walked in, were seen ad walked out. And at 5:00, about time after the Drs had left for the day, we get called back. The student er dude asked what was wrong and I told him, he said ok, I will go give I'm a call. He came back and said, Dr. ________, said, there is nothing wrong with you, to give you some Tylenol and send you home. About that time one of my headaches hit. I instinctively reached out and grabbed something. Left hand was his arm, right hand bed rail. By the time it was over, bed rail was bent and he was screAming, I think you broke my arm. I said, does that feel like nothing? He said, I will give him another call. He came back almost crawling, I'm so sorry, he said there is nothing wrong with you, give you Tylenol and send you home, I'm so sorry. I said, I know it's not your fault. They made us sit out there for six freaking hours because they weren't men enough to do the job. I don't blame you, but I'm not taking your Tylenol. I know how much yall gonna charge me for yours and I have a whole bottle iny car. Thank you very much. It took me about 4 months to find a Dr that would even look at me, and then that was a favor by a Dr friend of ours asking his friend. I go see him, he runs test, does x-rays, and other things. Cones in and asks me what plans I have for the next day, I say I have some softball practice to get to, he says nope. Look at this. This is where your shunt is. See this way over here? This is where your shunt should be. I do know how you are even walking right now, you are to be here at 4:30 in the morning, you have surgery at 5:30. The ringing was only getting worse. 10 years later I went back and got MRI to see if radiation had done anything, nope. Nothing. Dr said we have done everything we can do. We have to let you go. The Dr that did my shunt? Now works somewhere over in CA. I decided to go back on my 20 year anniversary to see if methods have changed, and it has. Now , no more metal box screwed to your head and table. They fit you with a fiberglass mask, but you cannot be clastraphobic in ANY way shape fashion or form, but that bolts down. And now the beams they shoot into your head are muchuch, much stronger. Got another in June. Just went back in December but nothing has changed yet, go back in another year to see.
Anyways, the ringing in my head has gotten worse over these years and I have searched for a sound that might be like it. I think I might have come close. Look up 6000 hertz frequency sound. Put in our earplugs, turn it up as loud as it will go, then go about your day like that. Everything you do. Eat, watch tv try to carry on a conversation. Sleep. Yeah, I play it on my phone not even a quarter way up and people are yelling at me, turn it off. I wish I could! I'm gonna try this lipo- flavonoid. 6 tablets a day for 60 days. I will let you know what happens.
Stay tuned.
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