This and That and Talk - My Transplant

Posted by Rosemary, Volunteer Mentor @rosemarya, Apr 9, 2017

As our Mayo Connect community grows, I am constantly meeting organ transplant members on a wide variety of forums with a wide range of issues that are not directly transplant specific. However, because we are all transplant recipients, we have a special connection: a unique journey and best of all - a new life! We don't always need help or advice. Many times we just want to chat with someone like us! That is my purpose in starting This and That and Talk.

Drop in and say 'Hi'. You are welcome anytime.

What do you want t to talk about? What words can you offer to someone who is on the journey? Do you have any questions for another recipient?

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Transplants Support Group.

@contentandwell

@rosemarya @hopeful33250 I don't think I did ask them, I just called and asked about medications I could and not take if it was a fungus. They told me that but did not mention any possibility of it being weakened nails from the medications. I want to ask them about using lamosil also, so I will call or ask on the portal about those two things.
This is never an issue I would have thought I would be discussing on this forum but I probably brought it up wondering if anyone else had a problem from the typical immunosuppressants. Thanks for the feedback to all. I guess I will ask but then if they are not sure I will continue with the treatment. I have already paid for it up front.
The bigger issue now is despite my drinking massive amounts of water my creatinine continues to go up. On Monday it was up to 1.78. I am sure I will be getting a call from MGH tomorrow. They cannot possibly want me to drink even more water -- I am close to 100 oz a day now! I find the days I go to the pool the easiest to get all of that water in. I do one of my 3.5 cup water bottles while in the water, refill it and do a second and then drink more in the evening to finish off the large requirement -- glug...glug...glug.
JK

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@contentandwell - I will have to see how I feel about that because right now that scares me. I'd be careful going to some of the Hawaiin islands as well - some are very isolated with not much in regards to hospitals (Oahu is probably safe but I would avoid the rest and they would be my preference).

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@herbswife

My husband has just been diagnosed with liver disease in the last month, I am desperately trying to avoid a transplant through health and unfortunately the medication we have to take due to all of the symptoms and effects. Can someone please help me understand the day to day struggles like uncontrollable nausea. At this point he can't even take all the medications correctly because he hasn't been able to eat for almost a week. Nausea meds seem to maybe help a little but not enough to get the nutrition that is necessary.

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@contentandwell - Thank you for answering my question about immunosuppressants being paid following a transplant. That puts me out of that benefit (just turned 50) but explains what I heard.

You might want to resend your comment to Dave Barnes because you spelled it incorrectly so he might not get notified and the information might be helpful to him (although I would hope the hospital would have told him these things).

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@contentandwell

@rosemarya @hopeful33250 @lcamino Thanks to all of you for all of your encouraging words. This really is a nice haven to share the good and the bad. Thankfully it seems like most of us are doing pretty well now - Lynn you are like I was, going strong with a transplant in the future. When I have time to read the posts on MAC/MAI I feel so bad for the people suffering from that, it sounds horrible.
I really do feel so fortunate to be where I am at. I went to a wake today for the last aunt from my mother's generation. Of course I saw many relatives and every one thought I looked great, which compared to how I looked before I guess I do. I never realized it at the time that although I never had a yellow cast to my skin I did look pretty pale and colorless. Of course a lot of their comments were brought on too by the fact that I have lost much weight too.
JK

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@lcamino I like that idea, Lynn, a prayer of thanksgiving being part of the routine - sort of like spiritual exercise! Teresa

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@contentandwell

@rosemarya @hopeful33250 @lcamino Thanks to all of you for all of your encouraging words. This really is a nice haven to share the good and the bad. Thankfully it seems like most of us are doing pretty well now - Lynn you are like I was, going strong with a transplant in the future. When I have time to read the posts on MAC/MAI I feel so bad for the people suffering from that, it sounds horrible.
I really do feel so fortunate to be where I am at. I went to a wake today for the last aunt from my mother's generation. Of course I saw many relatives and every one thought I looked great, which compared to how I looked before I guess I do. I never realized it at the time that although I never had a yellow cast to my skin I did look pretty pale and colorless. Of course a lot of their comments were brought on too by the fact that I have lost much weight too.
JK

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@hopeful33250 - agreed but I can't take credit for the phrase - Rosemary started it.

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@contentandwell

@rosemarya @hopeful33250 I don't think I did ask them, I just called and asked about medications I could and not take if it was a fungus. They told me that but did not mention any possibility of it being weakened nails from the medications. I want to ask them about using lamosil also, so I will call or ask on the portal about those two things.
This is never an issue I would have thought I would be discussing on this forum but I probably brought it up wondering if anyone else had a problem from the typical immunosuppressants. Thanks for the feedback to all. I guess I will ask but then if they are not sure I will continue with the treatment. I have already paid for it up front.
The bigger issue now is despite my drinking massive amounts of water my creatinine continues to go up. On Monday it was up to 1.78. I am sure I will be getting a call from MGH tomorrow. They cannot possibly want me to drink even more water -- I am close to 100 oz a day now! I find the days I go to the pool the easiest to get all of that water in. I do one of my 3.5 cup water bottles while in the water, refill it and do a second and then drink more in the evening to finish off the large requirement -- glug...glug...glug.
JK

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@lcamino and @contentandwell - I don't know if you are aware of the Transplant Pages section of Mayo Connect, where the transplant staff provides information about transplants. Here is the link if you are interested.
You will be able to access lots of good information about the living liver and living kidney donation.
https://connect.mayoclinic.org/page/transplant/
Rosemary

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@contentandwell

@rosemarya @hopeful33250 I don't think I did ask them, I just called and asked about medications I could and not take if it was a fungus. They told me that but did not mention any possibility of it being weakened nails from the medications. I want to ask them about using lamosil also, so I will call or ask on the portal about those two things.
This is never an issue I would have thought I would be discussing on this forum but I probably brought it up wondering if anyone else had a problem from the typical immunosuppressants. Thanks for the feedback to all. I guess I will ask but then if they are not sure I will continue with the treatment. I have already paid for it up front.
The bigger issue now is despite my drinking massive amounts of water my creatinine continues to go up. On Monday it was up to 1.78. I am sure I will be getting a call from MGH tomorrow. They cannot possibly want me to drink even more water -- I am close to 100 oz a day now! I find the days I go to the pool the easiest to get all of that water in. I do one of my 3.5 cup water bottles while in the water, refill it and do a second and then drink more in the evening to finish off the large requirement -- glug...glug...glug.
JK

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@contentandwell, lcamino
I am going to try to answer several questions that you have asked. I too, was diagnosed early. And like you, Lynn, I knew what I had as well as what I might be facing. My disease was Primary Sclerosing Cholangitis (PSC). It is a progressive condition that affects the bile ducts and leads to cirrhosis and need for transplant. . Early, my only symptoms were occasional nausea, and extreme tiredness/fatigue. I had labs and appointments with GI every 3 months. He told me that he would notice the development of liver failure (cirrhosis) via labs before I would notice the complications. He told me that he would then refer me to the transplant clinic when the time was right. He also told me that signs I should watch for were dark urine, yellow skin and eyes, and that if I developed slurred speech or started to not make sense that I should go to the ER, and call him after I was on my way and he would meet me.

After referral to local transplant dept (50 minute drive) they began to tell us about the ammonia levels they ware watching. And always asked my husband if he had noticed any of the speech symptoms; they reinforced the importance of remaining alert. They also added to be on lookout for other symptoms that coincide with end stage liver disease (ESLD).

By the time I was critical and at Mayo, I think that I had already experienced almost every one of the symptoms associated with ESLD except for the HE that you experienced, Jane. One of the miracles of Mayo, is that they are able to individualize what a person needs, rather that 'go by the book'. They were able to get some of my bothersome symptoms under some control. On the lite side - Now, my husband says that I never made sense anyway, so it was hard for him to observe that part of it!

Fortunately, my doctors were always proactive, and also quick to act when things got crazy.
My doctors have always told me that we are all unique in the symptoms that we experience. And that this also applies to patients with the identical liver disease. I think that is why our labs are so important.

Rosemary

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@contentandwell

@rosemarya @hopeful33250 I don't think I did ask them, I just called and asked about medications I could and not take if it was a fungus. They told me that but did not mention any possibility of it being weakened nails from the medications. I want to ask them about using lamosil also, so I will call or ask on the portal about those two things.
This is never an issue I would have thought I would be discussing on this forum but I probably brought it up wondering if anyone else had a problem from the typical immunosuppressants. Thanks for the feedback to all. I guess I will ask but then if they are not sure I will continue with the treatment. I have already paid for it up front.
The bigger issue now is despite my drinking massive amounts of water my creatinine continues to go up. On Monday it was up to 1.78. I am sure I will be getting a call from MGH tomorrow. They cannot possibly want me to drink even more water -- I am close to 100 oz a day now! I find the days I go to the pool the easiest to get all of that water in. I do one of my 3.5 cup water bottles while in the water, refill it and do a second and then drink more in the evening to finish off the large requirement -- glug...glug...glug.
JK

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@contentandwell, I want to share one piece of advice that you or your husband might need when you have your knee surgery. Some times the regular hospital staff is not familiar with the needs of a transplant patient - specifically - the need for strict adherence to medication schedule for immunosuppressant medicines. We once had a 'situation' and needed to call for supervising nurse, who consulted with my GI. I was given the meds!
Rosemary

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@contentandwell

@rosemarya @hopeful33250 I don't think I did ask them, I just called and asked about medications I could and not take if it was a fungus. They told me that but did not mention any possibility of it being weakened nails from the medications. I want to ask them about using lamosil also, so I will call or ask on the portal about those two things.
This is never an issue I would have thought I would be discussing on this forum but I probably brought it up wondering if anyone else had a problem from the typical immunosuppressants. Thanks for the feedback to all. I guess I will ask but then if they are not sure I will continue with the treatment. I have already paid for it up front.
The bigger issue now is despite my drinking massive amounts of water my creatinine continues to go up. On Monday it was up to 1.78. I am sure I will be getting a call from MGH tomorrow. They cannot possibly want me to drink even more water -- I am close to 100 oz a day now! I find the days I go to the pool the easiest to get all of that water in. I do one of my 3.5 cup water bottles while in the water, refill it and do a second and then drink more in the evening to finish off the large requirement -- glug...glug...glug.
JK

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@rosemarya - Thanks for sharing. It is good for me to be reminded, and it does follow my family history, that not every person with PKD will have a disease that presents and progresses the same way. The research says this and it follows with those in my family who have the same diagnosis.

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@herbswife

My husband has just been diagnosed with liver disease in the last month, I am desperately trying to avoid a transplant through health and unfortunately the medication we have to take due to all of the symptoms and effects. Can someone please help me understand the day to day struggles like uncontrollable nausea. At this point he can't even take all the medications correctly because he hasn't been able to eat for almost a week. Nausea meds seem to maybe help a little but not enough to get the nutrition that is necessary.

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No, I am not on Medicare B as I am 52. No, Mayo didn't give me a plan. I just need to prove that I can pay for it. Thanks for the comment

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@contentandwell

@rosemarya @hopeful33250 I don't think I did ask them, I just called and asked about medications I could and not take if it was a fungus. They told me that but did not mention any possibility of it being weakened nails from the medications. I want to ask them about using lamosil also, so I will call or ask on the portal about those two things.
This is never an issue I would have thought I would be discussing on this forum but I probably brought it up wondering if anyone else had a problem from the typical immunosuppressants. Thanks for the feedback to all. I guess I will ask but then if they are not sure I will continue with the treatment. I have already paid for it up front.
The bigger issue now is despite my drinking massive amounts of water my creatinine continues to go up. On Monday it was up to 1.78. I am sure I will be getting a call from MGH tomorrow. They cannot possibly want me to drink even more water -- I am close to 100 oz a day now! I find the days I go to the pool the easiest to get all of that water in. I do one of my 3.5 cup water bottles while in the water, refill it and do a second and then drink more in the evening to finish off the large requirement -- glug...glug...glug.
JK

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@rosemarya It sounds as if even your local hospital, despite not doing transplants themselves, were very much on the ball. Unfortunately I did not find that at mine. I do know that after my diagnosis my PCP did some research to know more about cirrhosis, but as I said that was after diagnosis. The only thing that is an excuse for his not diagnosing me was that my ALT and AST were not elevated by much but they were still not when the hospitalist ordered an ammonia test.
I think it is very typical to not notice symptoms. As I have mentioned, my hepatologist in Boston said I probably had cirrhosis for about 10 years before any symptoms presented themselves, although my platelet count did start going down at what would have been right around the time when cirrhosis started. At first it was just slightly out of range but it continued to go down with every 6 month checkup.

I was away in Maine until today and our son and daughter were up there with us, with her fiance and his girlfriend. So many times when I looked at what I was doing -- cooking, cleaning, and everything else my mind went to last summer when I go to a point where I could barely do anything due to debilitating fatigue and then horrible ascites. I just felt so grateful to be enjoying life with my kids.
Life is good.
JK

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