Echolight sonogram scan for bones

@liz03 , the Osteoboost device has just started shipping. I pre-ordered one last Fall and received mine several weeks ago. I’ve been using it 30 mins daily per instructions. Pretty easy to use.

I have a Dexa in December and we’ll see how I do. But I’m also doing a lot of other things to boost my bone health. Taking strength class based on LIFTMOR protocol. Started HRT. Taking D, K2, Magnesium, Calcium, and collagen with Fortibone. Praying for improvement in my bone density!! But it will be hard to know which thing(s) have the most impact if I see improvements.

I am researching the Onero Program and have contacted them with no answer to my question. Were any of the people in the clinal study on Osteoporosis Drugs. I cannot find that information anywhere.

@katgirl - "True Bone Density" held the REMS event (using Echolight EchoS equipment and their supposedly trained technician) at Osteostrong in Eden Prairie MN. They provided an FAQ that stated no refunds and that results vs. Dexa may vary significantly (which they sure did!). So no, I did not contact either True Bone Density or Osteostrong afterward. But maybe I will. Some of the advantages of REMS are the portability of the equipment (can be brought to various sites) and that the results don't vary as much as Dexascan (which can vary based on the device calibration and which tech did the scan) - so I thought it would be a fairly accurate REMS test regardless of where it was done. But my experience with REMS was that the result (a green light for fragility and NO Osteoporosis) was patently unbelievable: how could a person who has had a dozen bone fractures (granted, never my spine or hip), had Osteoporosis for 15 years (dx at 48), and has a current Dexa T-score of -4.3 (L1-L4)... not even have Osteoporosis? Not credible.

@mnpine0000 thanks for sharing your experience! I too had a REMS scan through Osteostrong in Edina earlier this year. There were definitely differences from my Dexa scan, but not as significant as yours. As I have learned more through this site and research, I will really question the accuracy of DEXA. It would be really interesting to have someone knowledgeable in REMS reviews your results against the DEXA! I guess these are both just tools to help identify an issue but we can’t totally rely on the accuracy of the detail.

@loh Look up the LiftMor trials by Dr Belinda Beck. It showed that doing high intensity resistance training increased bone mineral density. Of course not everyone can do them; even in the study, they had to reject people because they didn’t meet the criteria. But it shows that increasing BMD CAN BE DONE WITHOUT MEDICATION!
There are many podcasts on YouTube that do a similar type of workout without the barbells which were used in the trial. Look up Brick House Bones by Lisa Moore.

@mnpine0000
I too had a REMS scan that was SIGNIFICANTLY different from my Dexa scan; -3.1 vs a T-score of 0.3 at the same hospital facility where the test was done the preceding 4 years but now with TBS. I suspect the accuracy of the REMS possibly due to the training the technician might have had. She didn't inspire much confidence and I suspect the techs at the hospital undergo more rigorous training. I see my endocrinologist this coming Thursday and plan to take it up with her.

@pennykj I found your post from about 2 years ago and I was wondering if you are on any medication considering your degraded TBS and low BMD scores? My spine is also degraded and my BMD scores isn't great. Was thinking about Forteo......How are you doing and what are you doing?

@soggybones
I am not on any medication. I am concerned about side effects, so I am trying to control my osteoporosis with diet and exercise. I take many supplements (collagen, creatine, Vitamin D, Vitamin K, Lutein, Annato-E GG, Osfortis, French Maritime Pine Bark Extract, Magnesium, 1/2 dose Designs for Health Primal Multi, Silica, Cissus Quadrangularis, ALA, NAC, 1/6 dose Jarrow Bone Up, Omega-3 Fatty Acids), and eat healthy. I try to eat organic when I can. I try to get calcium from food (greek yogurt, cheese, cottage cheese). I eat 5 prunes a day and consume 3 tablespoons of Natto a day. About a year ago, I started eating wild caught fish 6 days a week. I attempt to consume between 110 and 120 grams of protein a day (from food and one scoop of Transparent Labs whey isolate protein powder). I weigh about 115 pounds. I do stength training exercises 3-4 times a week and I am pretty sure I have added muscle. I also am working on balance and agility (using an agility ladder and yoga) pretty much daily. I had a REMS scan last April and my spine numbers were better than my DEXA numbers, but my DEXA hip numbers were slightly better than my REMS hip numbers. My 2025 DEXA scores were almost identical to my 2024 DEXA scores, so I think I am stable. Since I am petite and have some scoliosis, I am not sure the DEXA spine numbers are entirely accurate. Because my gyn talked me out of HRT, I started drinking 8 ounces of soy milk daily for the estrogen. I recently read about a supplement (genistein) that allegedly helps with menopause symptoms and can also help with osteoporosis. I started taking about 50mg of genistein daily a few weeks ago. I have had no side effects so I will continue. I am not sure what else I can be doing. I am working very hard to control my osteoporosis and I plan to continue with my regime. Thanks for asking and sorry for being so wordy. Happy Holidays.

Thank you so much for replying! My TBS scores is degraded and my BMD score isn't so great either and I'm at a loss regarding what to do. My gynecologist won't give me HRT because I have dense breast tissue and my mother had breast cancer. My PCP wanted to put me on Fossamax, but I have many dental restorations so I'm terrified of ONJ. All the drugs are so scary, but I'm also afraid of breaking bones. I'm going to try to do everything I can to improve my diet and build muscle. Some of the supplements you listed are unfamiliar to me, but I'm willing to research them and try everything I can. Thank you for sharing your strategy with me. Wishing you the best this holiday season and a great 2026!