Diet - Eggs or no eggs?
I am just beginning ADT ( Gleason 7 4+3 T2a ) and see the oncologist tomorrow here in France to set out the RT plan. No dietary advice so far from eg urologist and guessing that tomorrow will only be a practical regime for the duration of the RT. Respected sources constantly recommend a plant-based diet ( already on this ) with little or no dairy products. However, the court seems to be out in the matter of eggs. This concerns me, since B12 is clearly important on all fronts and calcium is clearly an issue with risk of bone thinning whilst on ADT.
Has anyone here received advice for or against please?
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My RBC and hemoglobin have all been below normal for years, But not low enough to cause anemia.
I was looking at my wife’s test results from a few days ago and I’ll be damned if her RBC and hemoglobin are also below normal. She’s not on anything special, Though she is on blood thinner, and Diltiazem as I am. She is 77, maybe age is a factor.
Every month the last eight years I get my CBC, PSA, Creatinine and glomerular filtration, ALT and bilirubin tested. With Multiple PC occurrences this is just pretty standard. I do get A1c every three months. Do you think your husband‘s case would require this every month or three months?
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Now that we are mentioning broccoli - adding mustard seed powder to any Brassica plant will enhance absorption of anti-carcinogenic compounds by multiples. It is best to eat Brassica plants raw, if you cook them than add mustard seeds on finished and served broccoli : ))).
Yes- not everybody can have positive effect, no matter what somebody does, but many do and that is the whole point. As long as suggestion is healthy and beneficial for general health , why not try it : ) ?
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You know what - if you both reduced animal products in your diet, than perhaps you can try adding supplements of B12 and plant derived Fe. We found this one to work the best : "FLORADIX". He also is using sublingual B12 tabs. With age we absorb less and less of vit B12 and it is important vit for blood production and for nerve protection. I forgot to say that my husband did test for B12 also and it was on a low end and that is why I told him to ask for B12 shot. If you decide to test for B12 and it comes back on low end - don't tell doctor that you are "felling grand" ; ) lol, or you will not get a vit. shot (which is ridiculous fact since it is VERY cheap and I do not know what is their problem ). My husband had zero tiredness but his results were not optimal and were not like they used to be so there was no reason for him be "anemic" even on paper. Regarding Fe, of course, if you take any medications that can be effected by iron supplementation, check with your doctor for that. As far as I know Fe can interfere with some osteoporosis meds so make sure not to take it at the same time of the day.
Regarding PSA - doctors think that he should test every 3 mos , but we will be doing it every month for the first 6 mos. since his margin was iffy in one tiny spot. After that we shell see ...
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1 ReactionI agree that there's no safe level of alcohol consumption for someone with liver disease (I have a friend who could die if he ever had a single drink again).
Perhaps some day we'll find that the same thing is true for cancer and some foods, but right now, the evidence is mostly just correlations with various levels of things in the bloodstream that dietary changes often can affect only a tiny bit (and without that causality, we generally don't know if a change triggered by diet rather than generics would actually lower the risk anyway).
As I mentioned, the link between eating large quantities of prepared meats and various cancers is getting close to some kind of scientific consensus, and a few other things are "suggestive" (though eggs might be moving the other direction, as additional researchers reviewing the 2012 Richman study have failed to reproduce the findings). But we're nowhere near the situation with alcohol and liver disease yet, or tobacco and lung disease, where there's an overwhelming body of evidence and strong scientific consensus.
And I second the recommendation to take a B12 supplement if you're eating a mostly plant-based diet. There are very few natural plant-based sources of B12 (nutritional yeast, flaxseed), and it's hard to eat enough of them to get what your body needs.
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My wife makes me broccoli with roasted tomatoes. It tastes great. And cooked tomatoes are supposed to be real good for you too.
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5 ReactionsIMO, the scientifically-defensible case for eating a moderate healthy diet — reserving things like sugary desserts, prepared meats, fried foods, etc as only "sometimes" treats — is that we don't want our meds to save us from prostate cancer only to disable or kill us with common side-effects like heart disease, stoke, kidney/liver disease, osteoporosis, or type-2 diabetes.
That's a pretty good argument for healthy eating all by itself. 🙂
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1 Reaction@jeffmarc Yes, roasted broccoli is delicious. I always hated steamed broccoli (which smells like a public washroom to my nose; probably some genetic thing), but roasting it in the oven or grilling over a BBQ is magical.
Ditto for Brussels sprouts.
Boiled/steamed = 🤢
Roasted = 😋
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I do eat only chicken and fish. Need the protein for the gym. I am 6’4” so I need to eat a good amount of food just to stay at 189. Eat a lot of salad.
Did B12 for many months, didn’t help RBC or HGB.
The Orgovyx and Nubeqa are what most affect my blood counts.
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Yes, the longer you cook tomatoes the more lycopene is available for absorption : ))). Broccoli and all other plants from Brassica genus are better eaten raw. If you expose them to any heat important enzymes are destroyed - add at the and as a topping crushed mustard seeds. Here is one of the studies
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29806738/ .
I recently watched interview with Mayo oncologist mentioning this fact also. So, just sprinkle some mustard seeds on top of your meal - they have very mild taste. : ))) Bon appetit !!!
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1 Reaction@surftohealth88 I love mustard seeds, so we see eye to eye on that. How about mustard greens in a salad?
p.s. A bit of weird trivia: Canada is the world's largest exporter of mustard seed. When we had a bad harvest a year or two ago, France went into culinary crisis. So we ship our mustard seed to France, then they make Dijon mustard out of it and ship it back to Canada, and then we eat our own crop calling it "French mustard". The world is strange. (Just ask anyone in Côte-d'Ivoire or Ghana about so-called "Swiss chocolate"; it's not as if cocoa grows on the slopes of the Alps. 🙂 ).