Dr. Doug Lucas Has anyone here paid money to work with Dr. Lucas?

Posted by trixiegirl @trixiegirl, Jun 1, 2024

I have been following his Youtube channel, did his free masterclass and have learned a great deal. It is evident that he is highly intelligent, motivated, and ambitious. Today I listened to a 2022 podcast interview with him by a health/fitness professional in the UK (Tony Wingard with whom I am not familiar). I think this was just when the optimal bone health website was getting started. The interview is quite interesting as I learned a lot about Dr. Lucas’s background which I have not managed to find anywhere else. I was surprised to know that he was a professional ballet dancer for 2 years before going on to medical school because of his fascination with the muscular/skeletal systems. He also talks about how he moved from orthopedic surgeon to functional-anti-aging medicine and the influence of his wife who is a registered dietician. After listening to this podcast I do believe his main goal is to heal and teach. I like how he analyzes studies and updates information and recommendations.

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I go to a doctor in NYC, but an endocrinologist. Mount Sinai. I think there are more endocrinologists treating osteoporosis.

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@njx58 They do seem to have a better group. Unfortunately they are not in my insurance... do you work with a good physical therapist?

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@njx58 They do seem to have a better group. Unfortunately they are not in my insurance... do you work with a good physical therapist?

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@mkenet I don't do physical therapy. I'm pretty active with running and the gym.

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I am using an endocrinologist. She is allowing me to use strontium citrate( in Algae Cal plus) along with Prolia transing over to Reclast.
My primary doc is also allowing me to use strontium citrate - he’s a geriatrician. I am a retired medical professional, and read two studies using strontium citrate in persons who could not tolerate the bone meds. All of them increased their bone density; fractures were statistically reduced. I decided to use the same dosages that they did for myself about four years ago, and I actually came out from an osteoporosis into osteopenia using the strontium. Why am I taking bone meds now? -because I have been on prednisone for a long time for polymyalgia rheumatica.

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@karenjaninaz - I have read good things about strontium citrate, too. That will be my next addition once I'm off of Evenity. Amazing that you found someone who would actually allow you to use SC--sometimes it just feels good to have the dr's approval/ok/blessing rather than the complete opposite.

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Unfortunately it looks as though there is shortage of Doctors specializing in osteoporosis. I live in both NYC and San Francisco so had to have 4 of my Evenity treatments in San Francisco. Then 6 at NYU Langone. I had to have an initial appt with a Rheumatologist which was like $350.00 (Medicare paid) before she would agree to take me on for the monthly Evenity shots I need when out there. I called to get my Jan & Feb shots as I would be staying there during those months. I was told she has now gone "concierge" and it would cost be $4,000.00 a year to be her patient. I called UCSF to see if I could get a new patient appt with a new Rheumatologist and they told me no new patient appointments for 6 months! She also mentioned that all of the Rheumatologists in the area have all gone concierge. I called my Rheumatologist back and she kindly let me come for the Jan/Feb shots without have to join her $4,000/yr concierge fee. Also here in NY my Rheumatologist retired and it took them months to find a replacement as nobody is specializing in osteoporosis much.

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@resams What's up with this concierge model? I live in CA and all I want is someone to oversee my BHRT while I continue with my other drs. I don't want to become the patient of a new dr with all their fancy infusions, etc. Trying to find a dr who actually knows BHRT & how it can promote bone growth has been an ongoing challenge.

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@keepitreal
I ultimately had a preliminary meeting for ‘onboarding’ and was seriously considering joining; however, I found a Specialty Care medical team here in my own backyard that is going to optimize my hormones first. I have changed to a high protein diet and weight lifting (although very beginners level). I will try the BHRT for a year to track where I am at. My hope is to at least stabilize since I have trouble with tolerating meds due to size and my general composition (I take children’s dosages of even allergy medications) having a very sensitive nervous system. I am hopeful, but know it will be slow going. I have adjusted my expectations accordingly. The main reason I was considering Dr Lucas was for the hormone therapy. No one here in my area seems to believe in it. They are stuck on the Women’s Health Initiative study done back in the early 2000’s. I still belong to the OBH Collective and pay $45 dollars for access to nutrition and excercise classes. They also have a mindfulness module as well. Will see how it all goes.

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@lhankins - how did you find a Specialty Care medical team that actually knows something about BHRT & the benefit to bone health?

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@lhankins - how did you find a Specialty Care medical team that actually knows something about BHRT & the benefit to bone health?

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@singingbones
I found them through a former colleague of mine who was not getting the help she needed within our local medical community. She doesn’t have Osteoporosis, but some other complex issues. I contacted them and asked if they used BHRT in their practice and they did. They are now my primary care.

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@karenjaninaz - I have read good things about strontium citrate, too. That will be my next addition once I'm off of Evenity. Amazing that you found someone who would actually allow you to use SC--sometimes it just feels good to have the dr's approval/ok/blessing rather than the complete opposite.

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@singingbones I’ve recently changed my mind in the strontium. It does replace calcium in the bones but the bones store calcium for the heart and other functions. There is more natural strontium in organic foods. I am anemic and blood is formed from the bone marrow. So I stopped.

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Was reading Dr. Lucas’ book, full of info…dealing with OP without meds….i was a bit surprised that he recommends eating meat, and discourages grains, as well as reducing or eliminating dairy…he does test individuals very thoroughly to arrive at recommendations for each person…some of these are major dietary changes for many people— but, if his method works, could be worth doing those. Read the book, ‘’The Osteoporosis Breakthrough’’,available on Amazon.

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@resams
I had the same problem. 62 years old, -4 spine, -2.7 hip. I also live in NYC. 6 months to see an endocrinologist that specializes in osteoporosis at Cornell/NY Presbiterian that took my insurance. After 6 months I had a consultation ($250). She just said to take injection. She recommended a nurse in her practice that was supposed to help me with diet and exercise ($250). I knew more than her on diet (she did not even know that almonds had calcium). And not much about exercise. She just gave me a pamphlet written by a pharma company and sent me on my way. My Endocrinologist ordered a lot of blood test, but did not inform me of what anything meant... just said that "all look with in range." If I want an explanation, I will have to have a "consultation" (another $250). She also recommended a rehabilitation doctor ($750). After all of this, I don't have any advice what so ever. $1k a month for Dr. Doug does not sound that bad after all if I get: a dietician, a physical trainer, recommendations for what to take, and blood test for measurements. I do agree that he is over the top. I wish there was someone like him that did not push his products so much.

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@mkenet I have had similar experience with physicians who have "expertise" with menopause or bone health. They tend to be the gateway to pharma treatments but not much else.

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Was reading Dr. Lucas’ book, full of info…dealing with OP without meds….i was a bit surprised that he recommends eating meat, and discourages grains, as well as reducing or eliminating dairy…he does test individuals very thoroughly to arrive at recommendations for each person…some of these are major dietary changes for many people— but, if his method works, could be worth doing those. Read the book, ‘’The Osteoporosis Breakthrough’’,available on Amazon.

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@nycmusic I agree that there’s some very good info in his book…however, this diet looks like ‘the plant paradox’ diet….which is not necessarily sustainable for most people. ..some believe it really reduces lectins and thus addresses ‘hidden inflammation’…as for me, I’m doing well after CRC.after surgery and treatment, and dealing with OP, on something similar to the so-called Mediterranean diet, light and balanced…adding a touch more protein and dairy, like ricotta cheese that has a lot of calcium (and comes in a part-skim version). I read everything I can find and then extract what fits me.

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