Your tips for recovery after 35 radiation treatments for tonsil cancer

Posted by dragonfire @dragonfire, Oct 18 12:06pm

Just completed 35 radiation treatments for HPV positive tonsil cancer at stage 1. I am frustrated with the pain, dry throat, medications and the duration of all this. My last treatment was last Thursday I met with my doctor yesterday to learn I have weeks possibly before I can eat in a normal manner which was difficult to accept. I have been told to focus on the positives which right now is difficult for me to do. If I had really known all that would happen I would have never agreed to the treatment. I can only manage cream soup, scrambled egg, jello for foods during this what I term a living hell.

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I too had 35 radiation treatments for HPV positive tonsil cancer at stage 1. I completed my treatment Jan 17, 2025. During treatment I became so weak from not eating, my doctor decided I needed a feeding tube. I had the feeding tube in for three months before it was removed. I started by drinking protein shakes every day.
I slowly added foods that would go down “easy”. I eventually got to the point that I could eat regular food however it takes me longer to eat a meal. Were you given any neck stretch exercises? I found the neck stretch exercises helped get my muscles back to the point I could swallow solid food.
It’ll take a while for your taste buds to return. I still don’t think all my taste buds are back to normal, but I continue to eat regardless to keep up my strength. I was recently diagnosed with CIC sarcoma and I’m waiting on what my treatment plan will be in the meantime I continue to force myself to eat in preparation for the treatment I will receive for my recent cancer diagnosis.
Did they recommend fluoride toothpaste and or fluoride trays?

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@bmora
Yes, I access neck stretches online. Kelly PT Cancer Rehab. Do check with your medical team first. I used Prevident Fluoride toothpaste. Glad you're getting along. Nice to see you post. This is a welcoming community. I used gobble food like it was going outta style. I eat super slow moving forward.

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I unfortunately am part of your group and am glad to be alive after my 35 radiation and 5 chemo treatments. I feel fortunate that I’m leading a pretty complete life. My treatments were over 15 years ago now. Currently I am dealing with a left arm that has become pretty much inoperable. After extensive scans and neurology tests the apparent consensus is that the Radiation treatments has had the unfortunate side effect of nerve damage. I’ve completed several months of physical therapy but have seen no improvement in arm function and the several doctors that I’ve seen don’t have any suggestions for possible improvement. I can’t be the only one dealing with this side effect of my treatment so I thought I’d reach out here to inquire if others have dealt with this and what if anything they’ve done that helped them regain use of their arm. I’m scheduled to start some acupuncture this coming week. I have my fingers crossed that turns out to be my miracle.

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@craigbauer
I am surprised to hear that your having a challenge in your arm. Kudos to you 15 years. May I ask where your cancer was? I have nerve damage in my left shoulder. Lymph node was cancerous.
I do physical therapy, massage and mld. Warm wishes.

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Thank you for replying back. My cancer was on the right side of my neck pretty low in the throat.

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I unfortunately am part of your group and am glad to be alive after my 35 radiation and 5 chemo treatments. I feel fortunate that I’m leading a pretty complete life. My treatments were over 15 years ago now. Currently I am dealing with a left arm that has become pretty much inoperable. After extensive scans and neurology tests the apparent consensus is that the Radiation treatments has had the unfortunate side effect of nerve damage. I’ve completed several months of physical therapy but have seen no improvement in arm function and the several doctors that I’ve seen don’t have any suggestions for possible improvement. I can’t be the only one dealing with this side effect of my treatment so I thought I’d reach out here to inquire if others have dealt with this and what if anything they’ve done that helped them regain use of their arm. I’m scheduled to start some acupuncture this coming week. I have my fingers crossed that turns out to be my miracle.

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@craigbauer I had the same symptoms about 6months after completing 35/7. My left arm was unusable. I got the Tactile Medical flexi touch (paid for by insurance for lymphedema) and I found exercises/massage to do for the vagus nerve (runs from brain thru neck to all abdominal organs) which worked. (Thank You, Jesus) My arm is no longer painful and range of motion is close to normal which is normal I was unable to use it for 6 months.

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Thank you for your reply. I’ve done a little quick research. Did you get the device for your neck or the upper body one? I’d like to talk to my neurologist about it.

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I had acupuncture treatments to address my neuropathy and dry mouth. It was helpful. I hope you find relief with your acupuncture treatments.

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Thank you for your reply. I’ve done a little quick research. Did you get the device for your neck or the upper body one? I’d like to talk to my neurologist about it.

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@craigbauer
I posted a pic of the device from the website. It is now approved for people with head and neck cancer. My SLP had me come to her office and trial it for 20 minutes. I noticed immediate results. I use it for 34 minutes twice daily as prescribed. Call tactile Medical for a rep in your area. The paperwork needs to be filled out correctly for insurance to cover this. I’ll bet it’s difficult to sleep flat, do u wake up with a headache due to accumulation of fluid pooling in head, neck and shoulders or a foggy feeling in ur head. Radiation lymphedema the gift that keeps on giving.

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@craigbauer
I posted a pic of the device from the website. It is now approved for people with head and neck cancer. My SLP had me come to her office and trial it for 20 minutes. I noticed immediate results. I use it for 34 minutes twice daily as prescribed. Call tactile Medical for a rep in your area. The paperwork needs to be filled out correctly for insurance to cover this. I’ll bet it’s difficult to sleep flat, do u wake up with a headache due to accumulation of fluid pooling in head, neck and shoulders or a foggy feeling in ur head. Radiation lymphedema the gift that keeps on giving.

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@pfitziern I've had mine for a little over a year. They work! Once you get into the routine you will feel it if you skip it. It helps with lymphedema and fibrosis. You will notice improvement the first time you use it. I finish mine with some manual lymph massage . I hope your insurance provides that to you!

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Hi Folks, I have been a long time lurker in this group. I can’t say enough about the people that post their experience - shout out to @hrhwilliam and so many others. I also followed @jkhagen1 as she was just a few weeks ahead of me.

I had left tonsil SCC and one suspicious lymph node. I was originally stage 1 going into the de-escalation study but then the review board was not sure about if the growth extended into the tongue muscle. So there was a last minute change, a little un-nerving to say the least, which led to the basic 35 rounds and 6 week protocol. I’m not sure I would have been the person to end treatment without being absolutely sure so I think it all worked out.

My experience with treatment was better than I anticipated yet still tough. I was shown the food hierarchy that had a chicken sandwich as the goal and I set out to eat that every week of treatment. I never reached a point where the pain was too much. For me it was loss of taste. I have a hard time eating something with zero flavor. So for two weeks (like week 7 & 8) it was hard. I lost a little weight (I’m 6’3” and 165Lbs so little to give) and that got some attention. I went to shakes just to supplement meals. But I always tried to eat something to exercise my throat.

I stayed active with pilates and walking with my wife at the local indoor mall along with biking. My labs were good during chemo yet most doctors don’t want you doing anything that could lead to a fall (broken bones). But by the 7th week I needed to cut down on activity to help with my weight.

At 7 months out, I’ve had 2 PET’s at the 3 & 6 month interval. First was very good and second was better - all primary sites were clear and it was great to see the screen during my scoping that showed all normal looking throat tissue. The body is amazing.
I have some general uptake in my tongue which I’m told is normal but of course needs to be run to ground. At 6 months there’s still a lot of activity and healing going on.

I’m not sure our medical care team would approve but I uploaded all my test results, labs and even pictures into an AI tool to get feedback. At Mayo, you get results from scans and labs before you get to your car in the parking lot. So it can be helpful if you’re wondering what it all means while you wait for a doctor call or appointment. Again, proceed with caution on this.

I have read that healing is like two steps forward, one back. I agree. It’s not been a straight line for me. I feel like my mouth goes through a healing cycle every 1-2 weeks where the inside of my cheeks feel strange and a tiny layer off skin peels off. I’m not sure if it’s triggered by foods. I try to eat diverse flavors yet I stay away from really spicy food (which I was never good at anyway) and acidic foods with vinegar, etc.
I recall ketchup tasting horrible at the height of treatment. All I tasted was the vinegar. Now it’s maybe 50% normal and tolerable.

My taste is mostly back to normal. I didn’t have any metallic taste but lost sweet early on and it has yet to come back. Sadly chocolate taste like not much. I also have some dry mouth. I tried acupuncture but no success. I used the xylitol tablets at night and Therabreath lozenges during the day if necessary.

I don’t really notice neck pain or jaw (opening wide) pain but it’s there if I press my range of motion. If I sleep wrong, it can trigger sore muscles in my neck and that can get me concerned that something else bad is going on.

Oh, and I wear the head/full neck mask at night when I sleep. I really haven’t had too much external lymphedema but this helps along with daily manual massage. I’ve been told after completing a couple throat exams and a swallowing test that I don’t really have any or much internal lymphedema.

So for me, and like many of you, it’s waiting and hoping for some (in my case sweet) taste to return and a little saliva. I think I need to do a better job with rinses as I really only did that back in the treatment phase to combat sores - which I no longer have had since the treatment ended.

One last comment. Mayo was amazing. I miss seeing all the people. I felt the safest when I was there with lots of eyes on me. The actual radiation treatments went fast and I seemed to tune out the fact that my face and shoulders were locked so tightly in. In fact, I routinely fell asleep which had me concerned that my mouth bite would shift. They of course assured me they monitor my positioning so throughout. And chemo was easy compared to what I witnessed others go through. So many people much braver than me. I did routinely get hiccups on Wednesdays and the steroids were awesome for my lower back!

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Hi Folks, I have been a long time lurker in this group. I can’t say enough about the people that post their experience - shout out to @hrhwilliam and so many others. I also followed @jkhagen1 as she was just a few weeks ahead of me.

I had left tonsil SCC and one suspicious lymph node. I was originally stage 1 going into the de-escalation study but then the review board was not sure about if the growth extended into the tongue muscle. So there was a last minute change, a little un-nerving to say the least, which led to the basic 35 rounds and 6 week protocol. I’m not sure I would have been the person to end treatment without being absolutely sure so I think it all worked out.

My experience with treatment was better than I anticipated yet still tough. I was shown the food hierarchy that had a chicken sandwich as the goal and I set out to eat that every week of treatment. I never reached a point where the pain was too much. For me it was loss of taste. I have a hard time eating something with zero flavor. So for two weeks (like week 7 & 8) it was hard. I lost a little weight (I’m 6’3” and 165Lbs so little to give) and that got some attention. I went to shakes just to supplement meals. But I always tried to eat something to exercise my throat.

I stayed active with pilates and walking with my wife at the local indoor mall along with biking. My labs were good during chemo yet most doctors don’t want you doing anything that could lead to a fall (broken bones). But by the 7th week I needed to cut down on activity to help with my weight.

At 7 months out, I’ve had 2 PET’s at the 3 & 6 month interval. First was very good and second was better - all primary sites were clear and it was great to see the screen during my scoping that showed all normal looking throat tissue. The body is amazing.
I have some general uptake in my tongue which I’m told is normal but of course needs to be run to ground. At 6 months there’s still a lot of activity and healing going on.

I’m not sure our medical care team would approve but I uploaded all my test results, labs and even pictures into an AI tool to get feedback. At Mayo, you get results from scans and labs before you get to your car in the parking lot. So it can be helpful if you’re wondering what it all means while you wait for a doctor call or appointment. Again, proceed with caution on this.

I have read that healing is like two steps forward, one back. I agree. It’s not been a straight line for me. I feel like my mouth goes through a healing cycle every 1-2 weeks where the inside of my cheeks feel strange and a tiny layer off skin peels off. I’m not sure if it’s triggered by foods. I try to eat diverse flavors yet I stay away from really spicy food (which I was never good at anyway) and acidic foods with vinegar, etc.
I recall ketchup tasting horrible at the height of treatment. All I tasted was the vinegar. Now it’s maybe 50% normal and tolerable.

My taste is mostly back to normal. I didn’t have any metallic taste but lost sweet early on and it has yet to come back. Sadly chocolate taste like not much. I also have some dry mouth. I tried acupuncture but no success. I used the xylitol tablets at night and Therabreath lozenges during the day if necessary.

I don’t really notice neck pain or jaw (opening wide) pain but it’s there if I press my range of motion. If I sleep wrong, it can trigger sore muscles in my neck and that can get me concerned that something else bad is going on.

Oh, and I wear the head/full neck mask at night when I sleep. I really haven’t had too much external lymphedema but this helps along with daily manual massage. I’ve been told after completing a couple throat exams and a swallowing test that I don’t really have any or much internal lymphedema.

So for me, and like many of you, it’s waiting and hoping for some (in my case sweet) taste to return and a little saliva. I think I need to do a better job with rinses as I really only did that back in the treatment phase to combat sores - which I no longer have had since the treatment ended.

One last comment. Mayo was amazing. I miss seeing all the people. I felt the safest when I was there with lots of eyes on me. The actual radiation treatments went fast and I seemed to tune out the fact that my face and shoulders were locked so tightly in. In fact, I routinely fell asleep which had me concerned that my mouth bite would shift. They of course assured me they monitor my positioning so throughout. And chemo was easy compared to what I witnessed others go through. So many people much braver than me. I did routinely get hiccups on Wednesdays and the steroids were awesome for my lower back!

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@robpara Thank you for sharing your experience, it helps to now what to expect. My husband is about to start his treatments. Radiation doctor has reduced his treatments from 35 to 31,no idea why but I`m hoping this is a good sign. We haven`t received to chemo schedule yet, again hoping this will also be reduced! We should know more tomorrow, a scary time for sure.

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