Questions about Dr. Bruce Patterson's program

Posted by raspy @raspy, Nov 10, 2025

I have been struggling with severe fatigue and PEM as my main symptoms since 2022. I'm 80, live in Indiana and was in great health before Covid struck. I had a short bout of CFS in my 40s and suspect this has a lot to do with what I'm going through now.

I'm interested in knowing more about Dr. Patterson's program. I've read his lab's website, but when filling out the form for bloodwork, discovered I needed to add a local physician, though it says my doc is not required to collaborate. I've also seen the announcement of his new Long Covid Clinic in Traverse City, but I've found no way to access it. My guess is that it will operate the same way. I have questions before deciding to go ahead, but these have gone unanswered through the lab's website. I'd appreciate it so much if anyone has answers to some of these questions:
1. Does Dr. P supply the medication? If so, does he combine the 2 (Lipitor and Maraviroc) or are they separate?
2. Does everyone get the same meds? Is there flexibility for dosages?
3. Who do you work with if you run into problems with side effects? Do they provide easy, quick access and how responsive are they for problems or questions, or maybe this why you need your own local doc?
4. What is your local doc's role in this?

I ask these questions because I tend to be very sensitive to meds and wonder if Dr. P is at all flexible, as in starting with lower doses if the meds are separate? Also, I have an appt with a new doctor of integrative med in Indy in a few months and wonder if I'd best wait until I see him and use his name. This would depend on what role he would play in Dr. P's scheme of things. My regular PCP does not have any familiarity with Long Covid treatments. (Also, maybe Dr. P will have some results from his stage 3 trial by then!)

I am grateful to this group for all the information shared and support and encouragement it provides. I hope you will be able to provide some answers and insights into Dr. Patterson for me.

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Post-COVID Recovery & COVID-19 Support Group.

I did the protocol with Dr Patterson through his website (Chronic Inflammation Treatment Center), it was all virtual. My responses here are specific to my own situation so I can't say its like this for everyone.

1. No, he sent a summary report which is just something you then give to your treating physician who has to prescribe the medication. Dr Patterson didn't prescribe or supply the meds. This is because Dr Patterson isn't licensed in every state, so it makes sense. This would probably be different if you are in his state or going to his new location in Michigan.

2. I think the protocol is generally the same for everyone but I'm sure it can vary slightly depending on the case. For me it was maraviroc, atorvastatin, and colchicine, with the first two really being the key parts of the treatment.

3. You would work with your treating physician on any issues, so it's important that you have a doctor who is open minded and available, I'm sure there are some doctors who would not participate in this type of arrangement.

4. Your treating physician would prescribe the medications and also provide support during the treatment. You can contact Dr Patterson's nursing staff but they generally aren't going to get into giving medical advice via email, you'd have to make an appointment with Dr Patterson every time you want to speak to him.

I didn't have much trouble with the meds, but it didn't really help me, I was on them for almost 10 weeks. Dr Patterson eventually ordered a mycotoxin test which came back positive, a lot of the symptoms are similar, so I'm now pursuing that avenue of treatment.

I happen to have a integrative type physician who is familiar with Dr Patterson and his protocol so that made things a lot easier. There's plenty of info on the covidlonghaulers website. If you are able to get to his new location then I would recommend it.

Best of luck!

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mikesixysix This link explains how IncellDx (Dr. Patterson's company) engages. It all begins with blood work. This kit is paid in advance, sent to you for the blood draw which you will engage your own doctor for the blood draw. So it really starts with you engaging your own medical professional to assure they will work with IncellDx to draw your blood and receive result reports to plan for the next steps. Your doctor will know more about dosages as they have your history. It's not clear how the video followups take place after the blood is sent to IncellDx and the results are known, but it's likely they contact your doctor for the consult. https://www.covidlonghaulers.com/north-america/home

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mikesixysix This patient portal link is more 'step by step': https://www.covidlonghaulers.com/patients

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I did the protocol with Dr Patterson through his website (Chronic Inflammation Treatment Center), it was all virtual. My responses here are specific to my own situation so I can't say its like this for everyone.

1. No, he sent a summary report which is just something you then give to your treating physician who has to prescribe the medication. Dr Patterson didn't prescribe or supply the meds. This is because Dr Patterson isn't licensed in every state, so it makes sense. This would probably be different if you are in his state or going to his new location in Michigan.

2. I think the protocol is generally the same for everyone but I'm sure it can vary slightly depending on the case. For me it was maraviroc, atorvastatin, and colchicine, with the first two really being the key parts of the treatment.

3. You would work with your treating physician on any issues, so it's important that you have a doctor who is open minded and available, I'm sure there are some doctors who would not participate in this type of arrangement.

4. Your treating physician would prescribe the medications and also provide support during the treatment. You can contact Dr Patterson's nursing staff but they generally aren't going to get into giving medical advice via email, you'd have to make an appointment with Dr Patterson every time you want to speak to him.

I didn't have much trouble with the meds, but it didn't really help me, I was on them for almost 10 weeks. Dr Patterson eventually ordered a mycotoxin test which came back positive, a lot of the symptoms are similar, so I'm now pursuing that avenue of treatment.

I happen to have a integrative type physician who is familiar with Dr Patterson and his protocol so that made things a lot easier. There's plenty of info on the covidlonghaulers website. If you are able to get to his new location then I would recommend it.

Best of luck!

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@mikesixtysix
Thank you very much for taking the time for such a thorough and helpful response! It sounds like I'll best wait until I can get into the doctor of integrative medicine. I don't think my regular doctor would be receptive.
I will check out the websites, too. They did not come up when I googled Dr. Patterson, and I am sure I will learn a lot.
I'm sorry the meds didn't work for you and hope you'll have a better response to the treatment for mycotoxin. Your body is doing the best it can, and you are doing everything you can to help it.

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I did the protocol with Dr Patterson through his website (Chronic Inflammation Treatment Center), it was all virtual. My responses here are specific to my own situation so I can't say its like this for everyone.

1. No, he sent a summary report which is just something you then give to your treating physician who has to prescribe the medication. Dr Patterson didn't prescribe or supply the meds. This is because Dr Patterson isn't licensed in every state, so it makes sense. This would probably be different if you are in his state or going to his new location in Michigan.

2. I think the protocol is generally the same for everyone but I'm sure it can vary slightly depending on the case. For me it was maraviroc, atorvastatin, and colchicine, with the first two really being the key parts of the treatment.

3. You would work with your treating physician on any issues, so it's important that you have a doctor who is open minded and available, I'm sure there are some doctors who would not participate in this type of arrangement.

4. Your treating physician would prescribe the medications and also provide support during the treatment. You can contact Dr Patterson's nursing staff but they generally aren't going to get into giving medical advice via email, you'd have to make an appointment with Dr Patterson every time you want to speak to him.

I didn't have much trouble with the meds, but it didn't really help me, I was on them for almost 10 weeks. Dr Patterson eventually ordered a mycotoxin test which came back positive, a lot of the symptoms are similar, so I'm now pursuing that avenue of treatment.

I happen to have a integrative type physician who is familiar with Dr Patterson and his protocol so that made things a lot easier. There's plenty of info on the covidlonghaulers website. If you are able to get to his new location then I would recommend it.

Best of luck!

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mikesixty six: Mycotoxin details you provided are very intriguing for my symptoms. In August 2025, the one and only time my nasal drainage and tongue coating was tested by my NP, it came back from blood work as an 'un-identified' fungi. This was understood to mean, given enough weeks (takes 7 weeks to test) to run fungi tests, eventually a fungi will show up but usually it can't be identified (this was my oral surgeons medical opinion also) and so it was left unanswered. Your input may assist.

This is more for Mayo Covid Group members who are still having sinus drainage and phlegm regarding Mycotoxins:

Mold exposure is more common than many people realize. Water-damaged buildings, damp basements, and even contaminated food can all expose you to mycotoxins, which are produced by molds like Aspergillus, Penicillium, and Stachybotrys (black mold). These toxins don’t just linger in the environment—they can accumulate in the body, leading to:

TAKE NOTE COVID LONG HAULERS as this part may be one of your symptoms:

Chronic fatigue and weakness
Brain fog and memory issues
Respiratory symptoms like sinus congestion and wheezing
Digestive issues, bloating, and food sensitivities
Joint pain and muscle aches
Hormonal imbalances and immune dysfunction

Mycotoxins are fat-soluble, they tend to store in tissues rather than circulating in the blood, making standard blood tests ineffective at detecting them. This is why urine mycotoxin testing is the most accurate way to assess your toxic load.
https://portlandclinicofnaturalhealth.com/urine-mycotoxin-testing-detect-mold-toxicity-body/
Why Urine Mycotoxin Testing is the Gold Standard

1. It Measures Actual Mycotoxin Excretion
Unlike blood tests, which only show recent exposure or immune response, urine mycotoxin testing measures the actual toxins your body is excreting. This makes it a more accurate reflection of your body’s toxic burden. (4)

2. Highly Sensitive and Reliable
Modern urine mycotoxin tests use liquid chromatography-mass spectrometry (LC-MS/MS) to detect even trace amounts of mycotoxins. This technology ensures a high level of accuracy and sensitivity, making it one of the best tools for mold illness diagnosis. (5)

3. It Identifies Both Acute and Chronic Exposure
Since mycotoxins can hide in fat cells and tissues, urine testing can detect both recent exposure and long-term accumulation. If necessary, we can use provocation agents like glutathione to help release stored toxins and enhance test accuracy.

4. Non-Invasive, Easy, and Cost-Effective
Urine testing is simple—just a sample collected at home or in the clinic. It’s a non-invasive, affordable, and convenient way to get clear answers about mold toxicity without the need for expensive imaging or biopsies.

5. Clinically Proven for Chronic Illness
Research shows that urine mycotoxin testing is one of the most effective tools for diagnosing mold-related illness, especially in patients with chronic inflammatory response syndrome (CIRS), autoimmune conditions, and chemical sensitivities. Studies published in Toxins and International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health confirm its reliability in detecting mold exposure when other tests fail. (6)

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mikesixysix This link explains how IncellDx (Dr. Patterson's company) engages. It all begins with blood work. This kit is paid in advance, sent to you for the blood draw which you will engage your own doctor for the blood draw. So it really starts with you engaging your own medical professional to assure they will work with IncellDx to draw your blood and receive result reports to plan for the next steps. Your doctor will know more about dosages as they have your history. It's not clear how the video followups take place after the blood is sent to IncellDx and the results are known, but it's likely they contact your doctor for the consult. https://www.covidlonghaulers.com/north-america/home

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Great! Thank you, Patti, for this link. I'm so glad I turned to this group for help!

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Hi All - interesting exchange. I have been on Low Dose Naltroxene for about 11 months. It worked well until now to resolve my fatigue, energy and shortness of breath. Now, I am considering Dr Patterson's program. I, too, had CFS around 1990. I understand that many Long Haulers who formerly had CFS are more vulnerable to Long Covid. I have had LC since August 2020 before vaccines.

Anyway, I called Celly Health in Traverse City. They are handling Dr Patterson's protocol. The number is 231-268-0013. The nurse directed me to cellyhealth.com and on that site go to Services, then Long Covid and you can set up the Mobil Lab Blood Work - $460 out of pocket. After you pay, you can submit costs to insurance to try to get reimbursed. After blood work is complete, and the patient qualifies, you set up an appointment with their provider for $299 out of pocket. I am considering proceeding. I have been working with Cleveland Clinic who prescribed my LDN and am going to discuss next steps with my doctor there and my local primary. Any more information or resultant reaction to Dr Patterson's protocol are welcome. Hang in there everyone!! LBW

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Hi All - interesting exchange. I have been on Low Dose Naltroxene for about 11 months. It worked well until now to resolve my fatigue, energy and shortness of breath. Now, I am considering Dr Patterson's program. I, too, had CFS around 1990. I understand that many Long Haulers who formerly had CFS are more vulnerable to Long Covid. I have had LC since August 2020 before vaccines.

Anyway, I called Celly Health in Traverse City. They are handling Dr Patterson's protocol. The number is 231-268-0013. The nurse directed me to cellyhealth.com and on that site go to Services, then Long Covid and you can set up the Mobil Lab Blood Work - $460 out of pocket. After you pay, you can submit costs to insurance to try to get reimbursed. After blood work is complete, and the patient qualifies, you set up an appointment with their provider for $299 out of pocket. I am considering proceeding. I have been working with Cleveland Clinic who prescribed my LDN and am going to discuss next steps with my doctor there and my local primary. Any more information or resultant reaction to Dr Patterson's protocol are welcome. Hang in there everyone!! LBW

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@welchllb The journey of knowledge is afoot! I've spent weeks reviewing and then comparing: 1. Dr. Bruce Patterson's InCellDx.com (based in both Texas and California) data for treatment and trials for those suffering from Long Covid symptoms; and, 2. Portland Clinic of Natural Health (based in Oregon) data on Mycotoxin in the body. Independently, each group appears to have a piece of solving the mysterious Long Covid. Perhaps they are near a consensus on 'causations'. I would be interesting in knowing how many Long Covid sufferers entered their first Covid infection with a medical history for 'allergies', specifically 'fungal' allergies. Not 'environmental' dust, pollen, pet or chemical allergens. For example: I have allergies to aluminum in all products, especially caplet medicines and deodorants. Also, allergies to foods: onions, bananas, all peppers, animal tallow being top of the list. During Covid treatments I was allergic to every pill prescribed for fungi treatments and anti-biotics. I had Covid in 2020 and recovered with no additional problems and no chronic symptoms and no allergic symptoms. Then in 2022, after I had a Johnson Covid vaccine, my health conditions took a dive, beginning with mid section pains I had never experienced and sinus problems that made me feel like I was drowning. From July 2022, through a second Covid D infection, my sinus and mid body pain symptoms escalated. I found that all my symptoms are now linked to patients with Long Covid Symptoms. As I finished reading the work of the Portland Clinic and compared it to the work of Patterson's company, I have come to believe that either after my injection in 2022 of a vaccine made from a spike Covid protein or as a result of my 2nd Covid D infection in 2023, I am suffering an allergic reaction to a fungus. My body sees the spike protein as a fungi and has spent year's in overdrive fighting to release it from my cells. As a result, the spike protein is still resident in either my sinuses or my fat cells and my immune symptom is unable to clear it. After 2 years of long strings of yellow puss looking explode and drain from my center sinus, followed by a healing few weeks only to return to a drowning feeling and another explosive yellow string of infection, I now believe the spike protein has taken up long term residence in my body, likely in my sinus cavities and/or fat cells close to muscular bundles. I'm focused on helping my doctors help me to purge this fungi of the Covid protein from my body in order to restore my auto-immune system. I plan to get the urine test for Mycotoxin 'fungi' and based on the results to research if and how I can safely purge the Covid spike protein or any of it's cellular structures related to that protein. This journey for me has taken on new strength of my will to heal my body!

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I have done the Dr. Patterson protocol with great success. I started with off the chart Long Covid markers in March of this year and after 16 weeks (with no side effects) all of my symptoms are gone. No more brain fog, exercise intolerance, fatigue, electrolytes imbalance or overwhelming anxiety.

I watched a clip of Dr. Patterson on the Long Covid Roundtable on PBS and it looks like the Government is finally taking this disease seriously. That’s great news for all of us that have been suffering!

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Hi All - interesting exchange. I have been on Low Dose Naltroxene for about 11 months. It worked well until now to resolve my fatigue, energy and shortness of breath. Now, I am considering Dr Patterson's program. I, too, had CFS around 1990. I understand that many Long Haulers who formerly had CFS are more vulnerable to Long Covid. I have had LC since August 2020 before vaccines.

Anyway, I called Celly Health in Traverse City. They are handling Dr Patterson's protocol. The number is 231-268-0013. The nurse directed me to cellyhealth.com and on that site go to Services, then Long Covid and you can set up the Mobil Lab Blood Work - $460 out of pocket. After you pay, you can submit costs to insurance to try to get reimbursed. After blood work is complete, and the patient qualifies, you set up an appointment with their provider for $299 out of pocket. I am considering proceeding. I have been working with Cleveland Clinic who prescribed my LDN and am going to discuss next steps with my doctor there and my local primary. Any more information or resultant reaction to Dr Patterson's protocol are welcome. Hang in there everyone!! LBW

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@welchllb
Thanks for this information. I tried that number but had to leave a message and no one called me back! I'm glad to know of the website.
There seems to be multiple ways to access the testing, through Celly Health, through HealthBio (formerly Incell DX) and through the long haulers Chronic Inflammation Treatment Center! HealthBio offers 2 different blood tests. I assume Celly Health offers only one since it is about half the cost? I find this confusing!
I would also like to find out if there is any advantage to going to Celly Health in Traverse City for Long Covid. (I have a friend there.) It seems from their initial announcements that they could offer help for OTHER health issues, for those looking for more comprehensive care. I'm not sure there is any advantage in going there just for Long Covid.
Ditto to any more information or resultant reaction to Dr. Patterson's protocol and working with them.
Thanks to everyone for sharing what they know.

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