MAC and Lung Cancer

Posted by bbeers @bbeers, Nov 4 7:06am

Good Morning,
I am facing the possibility of having Lung Cancer. I was diagnosed with MAC 2 1/2 yrs. ago and had no bad symptoms and still don't. My Pulmo Dr. has had me on a watch and wait. Recently I had two new spots show up on a CT scan. I went for PET scan last Friday. No results yet. I wonder if anyone has had this happen where your MAC resulted in Lung cancer? Thank you, Barbara.

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Yes, my first doctor kept telling me he wasn't ready to say the C word yet and he seemed baffled when no cancer was detected a year later. I found a new doctor , who done a ct and now he is concerned about cancer, but my lymph nodes were fine. Now he is eager to do a third biopsy asap or wait three months to do a new scan. I've read several comments about doctors suspecting cancer in Mac patients but was later found to be none. Good luck with everything.

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@vickiz999 Thanks for sharing your experience with us. Please keep us updated as you have biopsy or CT-have you decided which?
Also, welcome to the group. We're glad to have you.

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@bbeers Hi Barb, I have never asked in the past about size but started to recently after learning size is important along with the rate of growth. Half the time anti-biotics don't work on me. I now send my sputum samples to NJH, since they will test for everything and then do susceptibility and determine which anti-biotic will work best. That's good to hear you got scheduled for the Bronchoscope-yes. definitely keep me posted. I certainly believe in the power of pray, I will pray for you as well. Thank you, and you have a nice weekend as well! Kathy

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@kathyjjb Hi Kathy,

I picked up a copy of the report yesterday and it says it's a 1.2 cm middle lobe FDG avid pulmonary nodule, suspicious for malignancy. Lymph nodes not involved. So it doesn't sound good. I just have to wait for the bronchoscopy/biopsy and do a lot of praying. Hugs Barb

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Hi pacathy,
Didn't include all details above - but recent scan showed small cavity which of course is pushing UPenn Pulmo and ID Drs to have me start Big 3. Before starting them, I thought I'd see a Functional Medical Dr - either to seek alternative treatment or to get stronger to tolerate meds/side effects better. Her thought was - cavity might be from mold (her tests showed aspergillus mold) - maybe not from MAC. (Her thinking is - Just because B follows A, doesn't mean A caused B!) She spoke with the radiologist who read my report. He agreed - it's not 100% certain cavity is from MAC. So question is - why start meds if cavity is not from MAC?
At a crossroads now -just got a plan from functional Dr to address aspergillus. It's involved! And also long! And those drugs have lots of side effects too. Another big factor is that Functional Med Dr believes that underlying mold condition can "cause/impact" you getting MAC in the first place - and getting it again after treatment. - so getting rid of it is important.

Not sure what to do yet - but will get another scan end of December to see how things look - probably before starting any meds.
To answer your question - I started Neb 7% saline Oct 10/2 and using Aerobika, taking NAC and glutathione, Manuka honey, exercising/treadmill, using "Autogenic Drainage App", sterilization and water precautions. I feel great (thankfully). Which is another reason decision to start meds is difficult.
Shout out to NTMIR rep in our area - learned so much from our rep. If you are not already connected there - Next Zoom meeting for our region is Dec 1. (ntminfo.org - click on events)

Best wishes!

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@jgb1997 Thank you for sharing this helpful info and welcome to the group.
I'm curious about your current treatment and plan. Have you started any meds? I'm also in Philly.

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@pacathy
Hi, I am scheduled for a bronchoscopy/biopsy on Nov. 25th. The size of the nodule is 1.2cm and the radiologist report states suspected malignancy. I never knew that MAC disease could turn into Cancer, but appears in researching it that it can. I wish I had known that because I have been doing a watch and wait for 2 1/2 yrs. I think I would have started the meds had I known.
If it turns out that it's not cancer, I am planning to tell the Dr. I want to start the MAC meds. Hoping for the best outcome but prepared for the worst. I have a pretty good attitude towards dying. My sister died at 51 from lung cancer. I am 77 and so I feel fortunate that I have lived this long. Take care, Barb

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@pacathy
Hi, I am scheduled for a bronchoscopy/biopsy on Nov. 25th. The size of the nodule is 1.2cm and the radiologist report states suspected malignancy. I never knew that MAC disease could turn into Cancer, but appears in researching it that it can. I wish I had known that because I have been doing a watch and wait for 2 1/2 yrs. I think I would have started the meds had I known.
If it turns out that it's not cancer, I am planning to tell the Dr. I want to start the MAC meds. Hoping for the best outcome but prepared for the worst. I have a pretty good attitude towards dying. My sister died at 51 from lung cancer. I am 77 and so I feel fortunate that I have lived this long. Take care, Barb

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@bbeers I'm glad you're getting the biopsy anc wish you the best. Be sure to keep us updated.
I curious-if you don't mind sharing, which Penn doc do you see?
I don't have MAC, just bronchiectasis. I was thought to, but finally had a bronch a couple years ago, and it was negative so I haven't been in the IR group.

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@vickiz999 Thanks for sharing your experience with us. Please keep us updated as you have biopsy or CT-have you decided which?
Also, welcome to the group. We're glad to have you.

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@pacathy Thanks for the response. Im going to wait it out and do the CT scan . These biopsies were really hard on me. The first one completely missed the Mac and because my doctor was so adamant the it was cancer he failed to investigate further. The second biopsy indicated MAC with 4 mm cavitary that was also missed by CT scan three months prior . None of the doctors seem to understand the importance of airway clearance in my case nor are they concerned about reinfection . Im just getting pounded hard with antibiotics orally , inhaled and now they want me on a picc line. Thanks for responding and tolerating my venting .

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@kathyjjb Hi Kathy,

I picked up a copy of the report yesterday and it says it's a 1.2 cm middle lobe FDG avid pulmonary nodule, suspicious for malignancy. Lymph nodes not involved. So it doesn't sound good. I just have to wait for the bronchoscopy/biopsy and do a lot of praying. Hugs Barb

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@bbeers It's good you have the bronch scheduled so soon. Still could definitely be an infection. I'm praying for you and all of us. Mine is 0.8 cm. I have had an alarming number of CT's, so my Dr scheduled an x-ray (my request) as follow up to see if it's still there. She had indicated that it was also seen on my x-ray, which is why she agreed to my request.

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@pacathy Thanks for the response. Im going to wait it out and do the CT scan . These biopsies were really hard on me. The first one completely missed the Mac and because my doctor was so adamant the it was cancer he failed to investigate further. The second biopsy indicated MAC with 4 mm cavitary that was also missed by CT scan three months prior . None of the doctors seem to understand the importance of airway clearance in my case nor are they concerned about reinfection . Im just getting pounded hard with antibiotics orally , inhaled and now they want me on a picc line. Thanks for responding and tolerating my venting .

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@vickiz999 Vickie, feel free to vent here anytime. Most of us have at one point or another. Are you seeing any of the docs in the Mac and bronchiectasis network? If not, I think it would be worth it. It sounds like you're going thru a lot and are not that confidant with docs. I hope your CT is stable or shows improvement.

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I am sending good thoughts in the air for the best outcome.

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@bbeers It's good you have the bronch scheduled so soon. Still could definitely be an infection. I'm praying for you and all of us. Mine is 0.8 cm. I have had an alarming number of CT's, so my Dr scheduled an x-ray (my request) as follow up to see if it's still there. She had indicated that it was also seen on my x-ray, which is why she agreed to my request.

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@kathyjjb

Thank you Kathy. Have you had a PET scan? The reason my Dr. suggested it was because it would show if anything was going on with the Lymph nodes, where the bronchoscopy wouldn't. Prayers for you too. Thanks for caring.

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