resentment about restrictions and effort for managing BE

Posted by six5532one @six5532one, Nov 2 7:40pm

How do you cope with resentment about the lifestyle modifications BE imposes? If I felt healthy, it would help mitigate my resentment. But I do all this and still feel fatigued. I am 40 years old and will have to do this for many more years.

I resent the way airway clearance, MAC treatment and acid reflux prevention have affected my life. I can't eat until I finish airway clearance, which takes a long time. I have to negotiate use of the sink to wash my nebulizer. During airway clearance it takes focus to ensure I hold each breath for 3 seconds, huff cough correctly, and don't reinfect myself when cleaning the equipment; that takes a lot of energy out of me. The vest sessions are very uncomfortable. I have to finish eating dinner at a certain time so I don't eat 3 hours before going to bed. As a result, I decline a lot of social outings and opportunities to connect with others. I could go on but you get the point.

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@six5532one When you ask "How do you cope with resentment about the lifestyle modifications BE imposes?" you could be talking about any of a hundred or more chronic diseases or conditions that afflict us. We have all been there!
For years I lived with chronic pain, unable to manage it with OTC meds, unwilling to use opioids, and was resentful of anyone who lived a "normal" life. Then I was diagnosed with Bronchiectasis, MAC and Pseudomonas and began my venture into all the complications you mentioned. In 2020, Covid hit and cut me off from people for fear of infection. It was all too much!
At that time, my wonderful PCP referred me to a Pain Rehabilitation Clinic, where I was taught to look at things differently. First, I read the book "The Way Out - Healing Chronic Pain" by Alan Gordon and Alon Ziv. I had a comprehensive medical assessment to make sure there were no "easy fixes". Then, through targeted PT, counseling, meditation, massage and other things I have now forgotten, I began my journey of looking at my life differently.
I learned to accept my pain and work to minimize it (no magic pill there). Next, having spent a lot of time traveling, seeing what out ancestors dealt with daily just to survive, I have coped by turning the feeling of resentment on its head and being grateful.
What? In years past, people like us, if they survived our infections, ended up living on the couch or in a dark bedroom - if they were privileged. If not, they just worked until they dropped. We, on the other hand have access and knowledge - increasing week by week - of how to manage our conditions and keep on living.

What do I recommend?
First, look at EVERY option to reduce your daily burden. If that means buying extra sets of nebulizers and Aerobikas so you can do your cleaning and sterilizing less often, do it.
Find useful distractions during airway clearance - read, learn a language do a puzzle - after a few months your BODY knows how to hold your breath & huff cough.
Don't stress about reinfecting yourself cleaning equipment - ordinary soap, water and hygiene take care of that.
Talk to your doctors the vest - if you are not infected and your BE is moderate, it may not be necessary every day - I use exercise (yoga or walking, or even vigorous yard work) to get my mucus moving.
You can socialize with your eating restrictions - maybe only on weekends, maybe for brunch, maybe by just showing up and walking around with a glass of water in hand, maybe with a group that focuses on an activity (painting, quilting, museums) rather than food and drink.

Finally, as you have said, your are going to live with this for many years - make your self-care fit your life, not the other way around. Seven years ago my ID doc told me "Bronchiectasis is a disease you are going to live with, not die from. Take reasonable precautions and go live your life." That is my mantra

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@sueinmn LOVE YOUR SUGGESTIONS!!! ❤️ I hope you had a fabulous vacation. You are a role model to us all,
Linda Esposito

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I Wash and rinse using dish soap and a baby bottle sterilizer will certainly speed things along. Piro Blue cup Nebulizer works faster than most. Good luck, I know it's tough being young with a family and I am empathetic with what you are dealing with. I'm an old man caring for a disabled wife but you have it tougher because you are young and still a long life ahead of you. Things will get better. I've seen so many changes in medicine in my lifetime and you'll see the same. God Bless You.

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@picartist My Pulmonologist asked me if I wanted a vest and I told him no, I would rather use the Acapella and Saline, vest too much trouble and I will try everything else first. Not sure how that applies to you as I did not have MAC, as far as I know.

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Sue, you really ARE a role model, but you have definitely earned it!!!
I wanted to add to everyone else’s’ great comments that I’ve had a few nights that I acted like a baby and threw my neb attachments across the room saying, “dammit, I’m just not doin it”. (By the way, those were the cheap neb disposable attachments - not my expensive new e-flow stuff 😳)
However I still will have “dammit” nites occasionally, when I’m “just not gonna do it”. By the next day though I’ve got my big girl pants back on and I’m peacefully back on track. It helps to remind me that in the end, it’s still my l choice whether i do all this stuff. So if it helps you, take a break now and then.
It also helpful that I adopted doing the different things slowly instead of changing my whole life all at once. Mostly that was because I only learned the different facts slowly from different sources, but if you are overwhelmed you could back off a little here and there, and ease into some things. We all hear you though!🥰🥰

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Sue, you really ARE a role model, but you have definitely earned it!!!
I wanted to add to everyone else’s’ great comments that I’ve had a few nights that I acted like a baby and threw my neb attachments across the room saying, “dammit, I’m just not doin it”. (By the way, those were the cheap neb disposable attachments - not my expensive new e-flow stuff 😳)
However I still will have “dammit” nites occasionally, when I’m “just not gonna do it”. By the next day though I’ve got my big girl pants back on and I’m peacefully back on track. It helps to remind me that in the end, it’s still my l choice whether i do all this stuff. So if it helps you, take a break now and then.
It also helpful that I adopted doing the different things slowly instead of changing my whole life all at once. Mostly that was because I only learned the different facts slowly from different sources, but if you are overwhelmed you could back off a little here and there, and ease into some things. We all hear you though!🥰🥰

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@sarahlynn1960 Thank you. I too have thrown my share of tantrums over the years! But honestly, the older I get, and the more I see and hear of others dealing with complex health issues, the more I am grateful to still be able to do what I do.

@six5532one By way of encouragement, have you seen the from Dr Honda at the NJH conference in September? She talks about EXACTLY what Sara Lynn says - choosing the most critical actions to take, and letting the rest go. Here is the link:

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@six5532one As you can see the world we are in with BE, Bronchiectasis, has caused us much of what you have expressed....a feeling of being overwhelmed with all that we have to deal with, figure out and come to understand. It takes time to find our way and as well lots of talking to ourselves. I have been at this, with BE, for two years now and still learning much and still making adjustments to help myself live life as best I can. I am 83 now which of course does not compare to what it is like for you in terms of the big picture and living life long term with Bronchiectasis. However, once you have found your way to a routine and adjustments that you can live with, I feel you will be less stressed over it all and come to be a peace with our reality of it all and our living with the disease.
Wishing you good thoughts to help you in this journey in which we are all here to help you get to a point of being at peace with this life changing diagnosis ....our way of life with BE.
Barbara

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@six5532one When you ask "How do you cope with resentment about the lifestyle modifications BE imposes?" you could be talking about any of a hundred or more chronic diseases or conditions that afflict us. We have all been there!
For years I lived with chronic pain, unable to manage it with OTC meds, unwilling to use opioids, and was resentful of anyone who lived a "normal" life. Then I was diagnosed with Bronchiectasis, MAC and Pseudomonas and began my venture into all the complications you mentioned. In 2020, Covid hit and cut me off from people for fear of infection. It was all too much!
At that time, my wonderful PCP referred me to a Pain Rehabilitation Clinic, where I was taught to look at things differently. First, I read the book "The Way Out - Healing Chronic Pain" by Alan Gordon and Alon Ziv. I had a comprehensive medical assessment to make sure there were no "easy fixes". Then, through targeted PT, counseling, meditation, massage and other things I have now forgotten, I began my journey of looking at my life differently.
I learned to accept my pain and work to minimize it (no magic pill there). Next, having spent a lot of time traveling, seeing what out ancestors dealt with daily just to survive, I have coped by turning the feeling of resentment on its head and being grateful.
What? In years past, people like us, if they survived our infections, ended up living on the couch or in a dark bedroom - if they were privileged. If not, they just worked until they dropped. We, on the other hand have access and knowledge - increasing week by week - of how to manage our conditions and keep on living.

What do I recommend?
First, look at EVERY option to reduce your daily burden. If that means buying extra sets of nebulizers and Aerobikas so you can do your cleaning and sterilizing less often, do it.
Find useful distractions during airway clearance - read, learn a language do a puzzle - after a few months your BODY knows how to hold your breath & huff cough.
Don't stress about reinfecting yourself cleaning equipment - ordinary soap, water and hygiene take care of that.
Talk to your doctors the vest - if you are not infected and your BE is moderate, it may not be necessary every day - I use exercise (yoga or walking, or even vigorous yard work) to get my mucus moving.
You can socialize with your eating restrictions - maybe only on weekends, maybe for brunch, maybe by just showing up and walking around with a glass of water in hand, maybe with a group that focuses on an activity (painting, quilting, museums) rather than food and drink.

Finally, as you have said, your are going to live with this for many years - make your self-care fit your life, not the other way around. Seven years ago my ID doc told me "Bronchiectasis is a disease you are going to live with, not die from. Take reasonable precautions and go live your life." That is my mantra

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@sueinmn best advise! Thank you.

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@sueinmn LOVE YOUR SUGGESTIONS!!! ❤️ I hope you had a fabulous vacation. You are a role model to us all,
Linda Esposito

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@becleartoday you both are good role models with great advise and good to learn from. Keep it coming!

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Profile picture for Sue, Volunteer Mentor @sueinmn

@six5532one When you ask "How do you cope with resentment about the lifestyle modifications BE imposes?" you could be talking about any of a hundred or more chronic diseases or conditions that afflict us. We have all been there!
For years I lived with chronic pain, unable to manage it with OTC meds, unwilling to use opioids, and was resentful of anyone who lived a "normal" life. Then I was diagnosed with Bronchiectasis, MAC and Pseudomonas and began my venture into all the complications you mentioned. In 2020, Covid hit and cut me off from people for fear of infection. It was all too much!
At that time, my wonderful PCP referred me to a Pain Rehabilitation Clinic, where I was taught to look at things differently. First, I read the book "The Way Out - Healing Chronic Pain" by Alan Gordon and Alon Ziv. I had a comprehensive medical assessment to make sure there were no "easy fixes". Then, through targeted PT, counseling, meditation, massage and other things I have now forgotten, I began my journey of looking at my life differently.
I learned to accept my pain and work to minimize it (no magic pill there). Next, having spent a lot of time traveling, seeing what out ancestors dealt with daily just to survive, I have coped by turning the feeling of resentment on its head and being grateful.
What? In years past, people like us, if they survived our infections, ended up living on the couch or in a dark bedroom - if they were privileged. If not, they just worked until they dropped. We, on the other hand have access and knowledge - increasing week by week - of how to manage our conditions and keep on living.

What do I recommend?
First, look at EVERY option to reduce your daily burden. If that means buying extra sets of nebulizers and Aerobikas so you can do your cleaning and sterilizing less often, do it.
Find useful distractions during airway clearance - read, learn a language do a puzzle - after a few months your BODY knows how to hold your breath & huff cough.
Don't stress about reinfecting yourself cleaning equipment - ordinary soap, water and hygiene take care of that.
Talk to your doctors the vest - if you are not infected and your BE is moderate, it may not be necessary every day - I use exercise (yoga or walking, or even vigorous yard work) to get my mucus moving.
You can socialize with your eating restrictions - maybe only on weekends, maybe for brunch, maybe by just showing up and walking around with a glass of water in hand, maybe with a group that focuses on an activity (painting, quilting, museums) rather than food and drink.

Finally, as you have said, your are going to live with this for many years - make your self-care fit your life, not the other way around. Seven years ago my ID doc told me "Bronchiectasis is a disease you are going to live with, not die from. Take reasonable precautions and go live your life." That is my mantra

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@sueinmn Thanks Sue for such a positive message!! Your post has helped a lot of us. I now have 5 nebulizers to reduce my sterilization time. I do wash and soak in Dawn anti-bacterial after each use but boiling less frequently. My ultimate goal is to get it down to 1/week. Kathy

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Profile picture for Sue, Volunteer Mentor @sueinmn

@six5532one When you ask "How do you cope with resentment about the lifestyle modifications BE imposes?" you could be talking about any of a hundred or more chronic diseases or conditions that afflict us. We have all been there!
For years I lived with chronic pain, unable to manage it with OTC meds, unwilling to use opioids, and was resentful of anyone who lived a "normal" life. Then I was diagnosed with Bronchiectasis, MAC and Pseudomonas and began my venture into all the complications you mentioned. In 2020, Covid hit and cut me off from people for fear of infection. It was all too much!
At that time, my wonderful PCP referred me to a Pain Rehabilitation Clinic, where I was taught to look at things differently. First, I read the book "The Way Out - Healing Chronic Pain" by Alan Gordon and Alon Ziv. I had a comprehensive medical assessment to make sure there were no "easy fixes". Then, through targeted PT, counseling, meditation, massage and other things I have now forgotten, I began my journey of looking at my life differently.
I learned to accept my pain and work to minimize it (no magic pill there). Next, having spent a lot of time traveling, seeing what out ancestors dealt with daily just to survive, I have coped by turning the feeling of resentment on its head and being grateful.
What? In years past, people like us, if they survived our infections, ended up living on the couch or in a dark bedroom - if they were privileged. If not, they just worked until they dropped. We, on the other hand have access and knowledge - increasing week by week - of how to manage our conditions and keep on living.

What do I recommend?
First, look at EVERY option to reduce your daily burden. If that means buying extra sets of nebulizers and Aerobikas so you can do your cleaning and sterilizing less often, do it.
Find useful distractions during airway clearance - read, learn a language do a puzzle - after a few months your BODY knows how to hold your breath & huff cough.
Don't stress about reinfecting yourself cleaning equipment - ordinary soap, water and hygiene take care of that.
Talk to your doctors the vest - if you are not infected and your BE is moderate, it may not be necessary every day - I use exercise (yoga or walking, or even vigorous yard work) to get my mucus moving.
You can socialize with your eating restrictions - maybe only on weekends, maybe for brunch, maybe by just showing up and walking around with a glass of water in hand, maybe with a group that focuses on an activity (painting, quilting, museums) rather than food and drink.

Finally, as you have said, your are going to live with this for many years - make your self-care fit your life, not the other way around. Seven years ago my ID doc told me "Bronchiectasis is a disease you are going to live with, not die from. Take reasonable precautions and go live your life." That is my mantra

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@sueinmn, You are truly remarkable!
Ling

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I know exactly how you feel. I like you have BE, MAC and acid reflux.
It is all so annoying. I have good days and bad. I was 55 when I was diagnosed. You are young to have all this. I have learned to cope. I have lost so much weight as there are so many things I cannot eat. I used to love socialising with friends but I avoid meals out etc. I still work 3 days a week and that keeps me sane and gives me a sense of purpose. Soldier on you are allowed to moan about it all. Treat yourself to things you can do. I am usually in bed by 8pm as I am so fatigued. Good luck on your journey.

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