Natural remedies for MAC

Posted by med08 @med08, Sep 30, 2022

Some have posted they use Chinese herbs and acupuncture to help with MAC. Which herbs and what part of body do you get acupuncture and for what specifically?

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@namd you said you wonder if the buildings you worked in might have caused NTM lung disease. Do you mean the actual buildings might have NTM and if so, do you mind elaborating? Or were you just referring to the students with respiratory illness? I ask because I'm considering switching careers to teaching.

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@six5532one I taught school also. I responded to jolenesj above. What I wrote might explain what we mean about school buildings and a classroom of students that can bring their early stage illnesses to class that circulates to all of us in the classroom.
Barbara

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@namd you said you wonder if the buildings you worked in might have caused NTM lung disease. Do you mean the actual buildings might have NTM and if so, do you mind elaborating? Or were you just referring to the students with respiratory illness? I ask because I'm considering switching careers to teaching.

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@six5532one
Perhaps the water in the schools. I will always want to know where I got the NTM from. I am not a gardener so doubt it is from the soil. I have always been a healthy person but then bang this rare disease struck. Teaching is a wonderful profession but it saps your energy - having NTM and bronchiectasis is not ideal. I have had to go part time and give up a higher paid full time role of Assistant Head. Twelve hour days are not possible when you have a chronic disease.

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@blm1007blm1007 thanks so much for your input. Jolene

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@jolenesj Sounds like you have a Primary Care Physician who is not closed minded due to the suggestion of supplements.
I take those you mentioned because I was/am familiar with them and the reasons for taking them. I also take garlic tablets which possibly help also with infections. I was put on watchful waiting in 2023 and ......at this time after doing the nebulizing, air way clearance methods, huff coughing. light exercise, healthy eating and supplements it appears the MAI infection has decreased in that the last sputum results indicated " no showings of MAI detected and no respiratory pathogens".
This is hard to believe because I have not taken the antibiotics.
I am now 83 and feel well. I do however get a bit tired and have a feeling of being tense on some days after doing the full routine for controlling the BE, Bronchiectasis and infection.
As the lead doctor that I had at National Jewish Hospital/Clinic said: " You have the disease that requires the most work." Yes, it is work!!!
Barbara

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@blm1007blm1007 wow, Barbara, so encouraging and helpful. Thank you! I don’t mind having to work for my health. I guess this is my post retirement job now!

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@med08 when I go to my Accupuncturist she may ask what I’d like to work on, but since she is a 5 element Accupuncturist, she usually takes my pulses and works on the meridians that are deficient. However, since I have had this discovery of having an NTM of some kind, she also works specifically on the lung meridians.

5 element acupuncturists work to balance the whole body. That whole body balance is a theory that if the body is in balance, it can heal itself. The 5 element acupuncturists also have to know Traditional Chinese acupuncture. I’m not exactly sure how they are different from each other because google AI also says the traditional Chinese method also works to balance the body.

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@jolenesj
Five elements acupuncture also deals with emotions. If you are having emotional upsets, five elements work with organs associated with those emotions.

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@irene5
Yes, we need to stay strong. There are days when I am frustrated that I have to slow down, walking uphill causes breathlessness. I have Bronchiectasis too. As you say we need to keep the bacteria from doing more damage to our lungs. You have cheered me up as you are still going strong!

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@namd glad to see you are getting lots of support and recommendations here. Staying strong physically and mentally is helpful and something I think we all strive to work at. I’ve seen people here who are still avid travelers taking on very physical and demanding trips and schedules but like you have a lot of shortness of breath in particular when walking up hill. My PFT does show an asthma component so I have a nebulizer to treat that however I’m wondering if anyone had any suggestions to help with the breathlessness. Thank you.

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@namd glad to see you are getting lots of support and recommendations here. Staying strong physically and mentally is helpful and something I think we all strive to work at. I’ve seen people here who are still avid travelers taking on very physical and demanding trips and schedules but like you have a lot of shortness of breath in particular when walking up hill. My PFT does show an asthma component so I have a nebulizer to treat that however I’m wondering if anyone had any suggestions to help with the breathlessness. Thank you.

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@rmoore901
I have asked my Respiratory consultant about getting a nebuliser but he says it is only useful for people with asthma. I have bronchiectasis. I just go slowly uphill and do breathing exercises and I am fine. I did 6 weeks of Pulmonary Rehab during the summer it was amazing. Onwards and upwards - thank you for the suggestion.

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@namd My mom always said, “It’s all in the attitude!” I think that was good advice! Blessings , Irene

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@irene5
It certainly is!
God bless, Niamh

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@rmoore901
I have asked my Respiratory consultant about getting a nebuliser but he says it is only useful for people with asthma. I have bronchiectasis. I just go slowly uphill and do breathing exercises and I am fine. I did 6 weeks of Pulmonary Rehab during the summer it was amazing. Onwards and upwards - thank you for the suggestion.

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@namd so glad you were able to do respiratory therapy. I haven’t been able to get referred yet but understand it can be very helpful. Did your therapist mean an inhaler for asthma not a nebulizer? The inhaler part makes sense however it’s highly recommended that people with BE use a nebulizer with saline (and sometimes other medications as needed) to help clear mucus.

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@pacathy Thank you for the links. Earlier today I ran into a nurse that works in infectious disease. She told me not to assume I DO have NTM, even though my CT scan seems to indicate it. She said wait for the results and get a second opinion. She said she has seen situations where it looked like NTM as a sure thing, and it wasn’t. So good to know.

But all these links I have received for clearance techniques are great, because whatever is happening, there is already some damage. So the clearance techniques just seem to be a win to keep whatever it is from damaging my lung. So thanks again! .

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@jolenesj I think your nurse friend gave good advice. The radiologist read my CT's as "likely MAC" even after I'd told tech to let them culture was negative. I asked pulmonologist about it and he said radiologist like putting in a potential diagnosis. IMO, they should add a couple possibilities that aren't so scary. 😀

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