Restless Leg Syndrome

Posted by jimbourg8 @jimbourg8, May 14, 2016

I started having this burning feeling in certain pressure points in my body. Mostly on the elbows, under forearms mostly on my left side ....mostly worse in the late afternoon and evening. It's usually burning and/or uncomfortable feeling when I am sitting down on couch or chair. the burning sensation like I said on pressure points of the elbows, legs, or butt when sitting even if only 2 mins or so and seems like I can't remain still.......upon getting up and moving around it relieves the sensation. Went to neurologist 4 years ago..........he confirmed that it was Restless leg syndrome............there are different types of RLS but the classic symptoms are a feeling of burning, tingling, and a general sense of unable to relax when quietly sitting or even laying down and relief comes when changing position and/or getting up. Diagnosis is by symptoms....there is not a definitive diagnostic test.........all bloodwork etc.... is normal . I now take Gabapentin, and Klonopin to calm the "restless" nerves...........there is no cure for this ( my Neurologist says )........It's just something you have to learn to live with and take those medications for it..........It is believed there is a link between low iron (which I had) and and RLS . Now I take more iron (but that does not alleivate the symptoms so far . ( even when iron level becomes normal ) . I was diagnosed with low thyroid 5 years ago and started taking the levothyroxine to put my thyroid back to normal which it IS NOW. But even though I still have the RLS........there is a possiblity that I had LOW thyroid for years before I was diagnosed with it........hence I think (my theory) the RLS evolved due to the years of LOW thyroid. This is just my thinking on this. No Dr. Told me of that.....anyways I hope maybe this helps others and they can begin to pinpoint their symptoms and get a diagnoses.
I would love to know others with RLS and how they have dealt with it over the years. It seems to be a tricky act to balance the medications with side effects and still manage the RLS........appreciate any feedback. Thanks Jim B.

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Diagnosed with RLS in mid 30s and now 77 and it has become unbearable as I aged. Iron infusions helped temporarily. Currently taking (3) Pramipexole 0.5mg; Gabapentin 900mg; Levetiracetam 500mg; Mirtazapine 15mg; nightly and still suffer excruciating pain. My current neurologist does not want me to become addicted. At 77 I would rather have a good nights' sleep than concern myself with addiction. Having read through your comments I intend to research drugs never prescribed for me to ascertain if something might benefit me. I don't remember the last time I slept lying in bed with my husband. Now what sleep I get (not rest!) is in a recliner and thus shoulders, arms, body aches from awkward positions. It appears there has been little gained in all the years of research or did I miss something!?

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I understand you must have seen a sleep specialist, or the neurologist knows the latest news with RLS.
I too suffer with a form of RLS: Periodic Limb Movement Disorder or PLMD.
I see a sleep specialist at Mayo in Phoenix, for the past 1.5 years. After many neurologists claiming I had RLS, prescribed with all the medications out there in the market, she prescribed buphrenorphine sublex at a very small dose. It is in 2 mg increments, but I take 1/3 go a 2 mg tablet. I should take 1/2 of a pill, but it is GI binding, and I am to be careful for blockage.
It has helped immensely, yet I believe due to our travel schedule, my bio-rhythms are off. I scheduled an appointment to see her soon.
Pramipexole is the worst you can be on: augmentation will set in, and then they ask you to take a "drug holiday" which is to wean off, and stop with no added prescriptions to help you get by. It is not to be prescribed as many neurologists are beginning to understand this. I was on it for over 1 year, and at a dose to be acceptable, I had to have it increased up to 10 mg or more.
Good luck to you, no one should be sleeping in a recliner night after night.

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Diagnosed with RLS in mid 30s and now 77 and it has become unbearable as I aged. Iron infusions helped temporarily. Currently taking (3) Pramipexole 0.5mg; Gabapentin 900mg; Levetiracetam 500mg; Mirtazapine 15mg; nightly and still suffer excruciating pain. My current neurologist does not want me to become addicted. At 77 I would rather have a good nights' sleep than concern myself with addiction. Having read through your comments I intend to research drugs never prescribed for me to ascertain if something might benefit me. I don't remember the last time I slept lying in bed with my husband. Now what sleep I get (not rest!) is in a recliner and thus shoulders, arms, body aches from awkward positions. It appears there has been little gained in all the years of research or did I miss something!?

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Most treatment of RLS hasn't caught up with what is effective. For effective treatment, you need to see someone who specializes in treating RLS.

I also take buprenorphine. I was also taking 1/3 dose but after surgery in February I have needed 1/4. It is similar to methadone. It is constipating. But, it is helpful. (I love it---changed my life!!!)

I also have a Nidra device that I wear every night. Nidra is an FDA approved, medicare paid for, set of bands to be worn at night and activated when RLS symptoms start. It isn't available everywhere yet. The Noctrix company in California makes them. You can contact them for information. They have a website and phone number.

Both the medication and the Nidra (in combination) have helped substantially. With RLS, nothing is perfect, but in the last few months, I've gone from symptoms (often multiple times) every night to only having symptoms about half of the nights.

This was a Nidra claim (decreasing symptom frequency)--in my understanding, it retrains the brain through its use. ??? I was skeptical, but it has been my personal experience that my symptoms are now less severe and less frequent.

....After years of RLS pain, this is unbelievable to me. My treatment goal, initially, was to have the pain stop quickly so I could just go back to sleep. I never thought I could have nights without any symptoms at all.

I see a RLS neurologist via telemedicine. He is licensed to treat only in Michigan and Ohio. I met him when he was working at Cleveland Clinic. He doesn't take insurance, but doesn't overcharge. I travel to Ohio for my telemedicine appointments. I travel there to get my prescription filled.

There are RLS specialists at Mass General in Boston. Winkleman is there but it's impossible to see him (I tried several years ago). One of the other sleep neurologists there would do just as well. (Winkleman has researched and published about how opioids/opiates are appropriate to prescribe for RLS and don't cause addiction/problems. My neurologist agrees with this. I can give you the citation of Winkleman's articles if you like)

Johns Hopkins has specialists but Dr Early won't take out-of-state patients (I tried to get in there, years ago, too)

Stanford in California has good RLS doctors. My neurologist trained there and thinks highly of them.

Mayo does, of course.

Contact the RLS Foundation for other doctors, if none I mention are in your vicinity--or in your driving range. Google the RLS foundation. They are there to help. They understand how RLS needs to be treated.

The first step, for any of us, must be seeing a doctor who understands how to treat RLS. It is worth the effort. It makes all the difference.

My symptoms are worsened by overstretching and I've been taking physical therapy. My medication/Nidra won't override symptoms if I have overstretched. It's not like I take the medicine and it's 100% effective all of the time. On the other hand, in the last 14 days, I have only had symptoms on 7 nights. (Hurray for me! Sasesshines and everyone on this forum--I want you all to stop suffering, too---It starts with advocating for yourself. Finding a knowledgeable doctor)

In October 2023, I cried non-stop and realized death was better than how RLS made my life. Then (motivated by how horrible my life had become), I made an appointment with a RLS specialist. I understand the word: unbearable.

Like you, my RLS has always presented as pain. Unbearable pain. Within a minute after onset, I would have rated it as a 10. In the last two weeks, when I have had RLS pain, I would have rated it a 3-5.

I also use a long handled massager on the areas that hurt (along the outsides on my thighs and sometimes up into my buttocks). That helps, too. And, doesn't need a prescription.

Please keep us posted, Saseshines! I hope sharing my story --my success--will help you.

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I cannot take Gabapentin. When I tried it many years ago for Fibromyalgia, my legs swelled terribly and I gained 29 pounds very quickly. Had to get off the med. Then we moved and the new doctor put me on Ropinirole. It worked until it didn’t. My iron is low and I am taking iron bisglycinate.

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