Vivaer nasal valve remodeling and Empty Nose Syndrome?

Posted by warpedtrekker @warpedtrekker, Nov 21, 2018

Has anyone had Vivaer procedure? I'm concerned about Empty Nose Syndrome but my doctor claims that only occurs with removing or shrinking turbinates. Doesn't the vivaer procedure also affect turbinates?

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I have some problems similar to empty nose syndrome, but Im not sure. I have the problem before surgery.

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They just refused my nephew. Anyone know why they have this forum but won't see ENS patients?

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They just refused my nephew. Anyone know why they have this forum but won't see ENS patients?

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@notgonnadoit23, it sounds like your nephew took steps to seek an appointment at Mayo Clinic. Mayo Clinic has more requests for appointments than available openings, unfortunately. He may wish to look into the Mayo Clinic Care Network to find care closer to home.

The Mayo Clinic Care Network is a select group of independent health systems that are granted special access to Mayo Clinic's extensive knowledge and world-leading medical expertise. The Mayo Clinic Care Network helps keep care local by providing guidance and answers to many questions that might otherwise require a referral to a specialist. See the member hospitals here:
– Mayo Clinic Care Network https://www.mayoclinic.org/about-mayo-clinic/care-network/network-members

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Thank you for the suggestion but it is still disappointing to not even been considered for an appointment. He has insurance and is desperate; he is losing his will to live. I don't get why the doctors won't see him.

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@123d-I am so sorry you are experiencing this. These are the typical symptoms of it. The only reason I am on this site is due to this. It is very common in the ENT world. They are surgeons, first and foremost. On my journey I have learned that ENTs have very little understanding of how the nose functions and that the inside of the nose is an entire organ system.
There are 2 ENTs in the country who are kind enough to acknowledge this is an issue. I am not sure where you are located, but one is at Stanford and one is in Ohio. Moisture and humidification is recommended. Try to retain as much moisture as you can in your nose. Try to find someone who is understanding and compassionate towards the condition.
Acupuncture for the headaches.
There are many different reasons for the pain. Most of the the pain is Neuropathic, so that’s why NSAIDS do not work.
Did you sign a detailed consent?

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Can you please name the two physicians you referred to?
Thanks

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Hello, I had the Vivear treatment about three years ago, absolutely the worst thing I ever had done . I couldn't breathe after the procedure for like 2 weeks,...the ent kept telling me it would get better... But it never did. I still struggling with breathing...it didn't help one bit, after a year I went to another ENT and he approved to do surgery to "remove" some bone but apparently during surgery my turbinates were so scared up he couldn't do much at all...he refused to talk and see me after telling me he couldn't do anything for me... Not a good feeling at all..
As of today I still struggle to breathe when the turbinates swells up especially at night..
I did sent a message to my last ENT if he thought I had ENS atleast he could tell me that... He said no I didn't, and yeah my turbinates were swollen..
So...being scared of going thru any more of disappointments and the worry of ENS I just remain to suffer and praying for a miracle 🙏

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I had the Viver treatment and 6 days later my right eye developed fluid, redness and some inflammation. I also have pain around the eye which is where the upper and lower sinus is and pain in my upper teeth on that side. I've seen an optometrist, ophthalmologist, and my ent. I've been on steroid/antibiotic drops, 2 rounds of medrol dose pack, and now steroid drops again. The ent did a sinus ct . Nothing she saw related to the eye. I'm open to any suggestions and/or ideas. Would a head CT be beneficial? Thanks

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