How to address PMR pain while decreasing prednisone

Posted by barbararene @barbararene, Feb 13, 2017

I have been diagnosed w poly myalgia rheumatica (pmr). Am taking 5 mg of predisone, was taking 10mg.
Every time I go on a low dose, symptoms come back. I can't take pain meds, but do drink wine to ease pain, although I'm told no alcohol w prednisone. Anything you can share as far as info

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@dar9216

Thank you John. I am down to 17;5nmg per day may have mistyped. I'm dropping .5 every two weeks. I do not have pain which is wonderful. Thank you for the link to other GCA people. I've only spoken to one person with this and it wasn't a good picture.

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@dar9216 - from Tinkerbell - I have GCA and just finished my taper all the way down through 1/2 mg for 2 weeks. I will be going to Mayo on Tuesday and will have a Sed Rate to see if I am okay to stay off of the Prednisone or need to go back on it. I do have strange feelings in my head. It has been a long trip. I was diagnosed on 2 May 2017 and finished the taper last week. Let me know if you have any questions.

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@johnbishop

Hi Roger, that's a great question. My thinking is that the dose should give you relief from pain until the next dose. I know everyone is different but it just seems logical to my non-medically trained mind☺ I've heard of some folks splitting the dosage and taking some in the morning and some at bedtime but I would discuss it with the doctor. I don't think there are any cut and dried rules when tapering down on prednisone. If it were me and I was taking 10 mg daily each morning and felt good until bedtime, I might try taking 8 or 9 mg in the morning and 1 or 2 mg at bedtime. I would still ask the doc though.

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John, just a question about GCA. You said in a post that you were tested. Any reason, or just out of caution. I guess with all the reading I have been doing since getting the PMR diagnosis, I have found something else to worry about. Thanks

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@rogernj67

John, just a question about GCA. You said in a post that you were tested. Any reason, or just out of caution. I guess with all the reading I have been doing since getting the PMR diagnosis, I have found something else to worry about. Thanks

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I think my doctor tested me because the second time my PMR came back he was new to the family clinic (I get a new doc every 2 years or so) and was not familiar with my health record so asked me a few questions and thought I should be tested for GCA based on having some tenderness in my scalp and temples.

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@rogernj67

That is what I will try to ask when I call tomorrow. He said come back in Dec but I am someone who likes to stay in touch more frequently than that! Hopefully the girls there will get him to give me an answer. His office seems very busy. Like most I imagine. Thanks John. I guess when I say fairly good until bedtime I mean able to use my legs and arms with tolerable stiffness. I know it is all subjective when it comes to pain.

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I am wondering if anyone has been to New York’s Hospital for Special Surgery for their PMR. They are ranked number 3 in the country for Rheumatology. If no one has been there I would appreciate hearing from anyone who went to the Mayo Clinic for PMR and what their experience was like. Thanks.

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@rogernj67

I am wondering if anyone has been to New York’s Hospital for Special Surgery for their PMR. They are ranked number 3 in the country for Rheumatology. If no one has been there I would appreciate hearing from anyone who went to the Mayo Clinic for PMR and what their experience was like. Thanks.

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Hi Roger @rogernj67, I was diagnosed with PMR at Mayo Clinic in Rochester but I have never heard of a special surgery for PMR? The way the rheumatologist described what PMR is to me in layman's terms was - it's like arthritis all over the body. Do you have any more details on the surgery?

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@johnbishop

Hi Roger @rogernj67, I was diagnosed with PMR at Mayo Clinic in Rochester but I have never heard of a special surgery for PMR? The way the rheumatologist described what PMR is to me in layman's terms was - it's like arthritis all over the body. Do you have any more details on the surgery?

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@I never heard of a surgery for PMR either? @johnbishop

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@lioness

@I never heard of a surgery for PMR either? @johnbishop

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No I guess I mislead you all. That is only the name of the hospital.No surgery. Their Rheum dept is way up there.

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@rogernj67

No I guess I mislead you all. That is only the name of the hospital.No surgery. Their Rheum dept is way up there.

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Hi Roger @rogernj67, now that I reread your post I understand. I think I just misread it ☺ I know there are other great doctors and hospitals but what is so special to me about Mayo Clinic is that all of the departments and specialty departments are patient centered and work together on difficult to diagnose health issues. I think that's one of the main reasons why they are ranked #1.

Mayo Clinic Ranked No. 1 Hospital Nationwide by U.S. News & World Report
-- https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mayo-clinic-ranked-no-1-hospital-nationwide-by-u-s-news-world-report/

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@tinkerbell

@dar9216 - from Tinkerbell - I have GCA and just finished my taper all the way down through 1/2 mg for 2 weeks. I will be going to Mayo on Tuesday and will have a Sed Rate to see if I am okay to stay off of the Prednisone or need to go back on it. I do have strange feelings in my head. It has been a long trip. I was diagnosed on 2 May 2017 and finished the taper last week. Let me know if you have any questions.

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That has been a long journey, I think mine just started. My SED rate went down almost immediately from 92 to normal after 60 mg of Prednisone daily after two weeks. Now I'm just inching down. I could also go to Mayo as Iive in Twin Cities. I am waiting to see what happens when I get close to 1 or .5 mg daily.

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@dar9216

That has been a long journey, I think mine just started. My SED rate went down almost immediately from 92 to normal after 60 mg of Prednisone daily after two weeks. Now I'm just inching down. I could also go to Mayo as Iive in Twin Cities. I am waiting to see what happens when I get close to 1 or .5 mg daily.

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@dar9216 - I am at Mayo now. My Sed Rate was 4 yesterday and the doctor said I am now in remission. I started on 60 mg on 2 May 2017. I went down 10 mg every 2 weeks until I got to 20 mg. I was on 20 for 2 weeks and they said I could go directly to 10 mg. I told them “no” because I knew that would be too much of a drop. I asked to go to 17.5 and they agreed. After a week on 17.5, I felt terrible and went back to 20 for a few weeks. I then started down at 1 mg every two weeks until I got to 10 mg. From 10 mg. I went down 1 mg every two weeks until I tried going from 7 to 6. Problems so then started going down 1/2 mg every two weeks. When I got to 5, I had already arranged with the Endocrinologist at Mayo to do an ACTH Stimulation tests to see if my adrenals were going to wake up after so long on Prednisone. My test came out that they were ready to do their job. Mayo had me taper to 0 mg going down 1/2 mg every 2 weeks from 5. I also had a cortisol test once I got off of the Prednisone. The Endocrinologist said if my cortisol level was 10 or more I should be fine. It was 9.9. I am really glad I had such wonderful guidance in my tapering. As you can see it does not always go smoothly and you will know when you have problems just by how you feel. Go with how you feel and then I checked with the doctor and set up my own plan. I am still feeling a little tired but that will pass I hope. I did read early on that you should never go down more than 10% at a time. That really helped me with my taper.

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