Have you been told no to hrt if you are 10+ years post menopause?

Posted by gravity3 @gravity3, May 16, 2024

Starting hrt 10 years post menopause and the flawed Women's health initiative study.
I have been told no and yet the current findings seem to indicate that hrt can still help.

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Did you Dr tell you that after taking Prolia, you must follow-up with another drug right away to prevent a rebound event which can lead to fractures? Options may include bisphosphonates or other medications, depending on your specific health needs.

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@daisy17, yes, doc knows that and is already talking about Reclast. I very much wanted Evenity instead of Prolia, but cannot get anyone to prescribe it because I have a heart condition.

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Profile picture for irishnanny3 @irishnanny3

I really wanted stay in the HRT, kept holding off stooping.. as physician wanted
Had a stroke caused by undiagnosed Polycythemia Vera which caused my blood to clot. Assume
the HRT didn’t help Should have discontinued sooner
Be safe

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@irishnanny3, thanks for responding. I'm so sorry about your stroke. Please don't be hard on yourself; it's so impossible to know the outcome of so many kinds of treatments, HRT included. I wish you all the best!

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Profile picture for bayhorse @bayhorse

@irishnanny3, thanks for responding. I'm so sorry about your stroke. Please don't be hard on yourself; it's so impossible to know the outcome of so many kinds of treatments, HRT included. I wish you all the best!

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Thank you for such a thoughtful comment
Bless you

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it's funny i'm seeing this thread in my email - maybe it's an a i thing - because just yesterday I googled "can you do HRT 10 years post menopause and still get benefits for osteoporosis" and the answer was yes, just riskier in terms of heart. But to me the drugs themselves are so risky. Plus it seems like the quality of bone you build might be better with the HRT, not that rotten old bone not being removed that you get when you artificially shut down the osteoclasts.

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I started 10 years out. Find a doctor that will support you. The bone drugs fill in your holes, but make your bone quality more brittle.

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I started 10 years out. Find a doctor that will support you. The bone drugs fill in your holes, but make your bone quality more brittle.

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Depends on the drug

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I started 10 years out. Find a doctor that will support you. The bone drugs fill in your holes, but make your bone quality more brittle.

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Not sure if this statement is correct considering the osteoanabolic agents today. My TBS improved on Evenity. Do I wish I could have pursued a more natural path, yes. Sadly, it does not work for everyone.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10118815/

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I have been told no hormones by both gyn and endo because I am 73, slightly more than 10 years past menopause and I have cardiovascular issues. I am very disappointed, as I have severe osteoporosis and now am faced with starting Prolia, which I consider to be a very scary drug. I have agreed to do one injection. As it's only given once every six months, that buys me a bit of time to re-investigate the HRT issue. My physicians are very conservative and absolutely hold to the current "standard of care" that dictates no HRT for someone with cardiomyopathy. But my heart function is well controlled by a pacemaker, so the main concern seems to be stroke or clotting.

Do any of you know if the thinking on HRT/10 years post menopause/cardiac issues has changed any in the last year or two (i.e. since I was last told "no")?

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You can use creams to avoid the stroke problem. I would get a 2nd opinion.

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You can use creams to avoid the stroke problem. I would get a 2nd opinion.

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@dvargo, I thought any type of estrogen meant risk, even in cream form. Can you tell me where you got your info that there's no stroke risk with cream? I'd really appreciate!
Thanks...

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Not sure if this statement is correct considering the osteoanabolic agents today. My TBS improved on Evenity. Do I wish I could have pursued a more natural path, yes. Sadly, it does not work for everyone.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10118815/

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This information came from a Orthopedic surgeon I met at a wedding. He job is to repair fracturs all day long. He did not have to give me this information.

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@dvargo, I thought any type of estrogen meant risk, even in cream form. Can you tell me where you got your info that there's no stroke risk with cream? I'd really appreciate!
Thanks...

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The Women's Health Initiative in 2000 was flawed. It is coming out now that HRT is safe. If you have the breast mutation you will need to have a conversation with your doctor. Look up Dr. Marty Makary the new FDA head. When you take a oral pill it metabolizes through the liver. Stroke risk. The cream is absorbed through the skin. We are going to find out in the future the truth about estrogen.

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