Any advice on getting drivers license back after medical suspension?
A neurologist took my drivers license away, claiming he is legally required to do so because I had seizure-like episodes. The term used is “loss of awareness”. No question, this is a misdiagnosis. This has caused and is causing terrible harm. My healthy, happy life style has been attacked to save this doctor’s medical license, it appears.
My advice to everyone, especially old women, is not to go to a doctor for summer dizziness or temperature related light-headedness. Perhaps some doctors actually listen to old women, but I have not found them. I have no traffic tickets, no accidents, no medical studies showing seizures, no diabetes. I only have my badly expressed attempt to get help for falls caused by Repatha shots, high ambient temperatures and perhaps some dehydration and sensitivities or allergies. (Multi-factorial causation for my falls.) End result is no medical help is available to me and although I understand what causes my problem now, I am not permitted to use normal driving to seek solutions. Various folks have advised me to drive anyway without a license or to leave the USA.
This nasty experience has induced a sort of guilt-ridden PTSD. Previous extreme situations involving loss of freedom keep flashing in my mind: I was a runaway kid in jail, cavity search before several guards, getting shot at, being unable to get a visa that I needed to go home to my family, friend in Russian prison who had a “heart attack” there, as so many dissidents did…and more. I feel like a whining child because I am privileged really. I did not have my leg blown off in a war. My trauma is minor compared to real victims of violence with PTSD. That’s why I say guilty feeling.
Any advice for me?
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You meant to say "blanked" out...
You need to ask for a "correction of the medical record". Then you see if your records states you said you "blacked out". Then you say "I said blanked out, like "my mind went blank and I could not remember where I was supposed to be going"....a form of forgetting, that is what blanking out is.
Emphasize the fact your doctor heard you wrong??
If a patient came to me and said they had "blacked out" - even once...maybe that is why the neurologist did what he/she did.
Are you from the US and is English your first language?
ALL patients can ask for a "correction of medical records".
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3 ReactionsTatiana you wrote:
"Previous extreme situations involving loss of freedom keep flashing in my mind: I was a runaway kid in jail, cavity search before several guards, getting shot at, being unable to get a visa that I needed to go home to my family, friend in Russian prison who had a “heart attack” there, as so many dissidents did…and more. I feel like a whining child because I am privileged really. I did not have my leg blown off in a war. My trauma is minor compared to real victims of violence with PTSD. That’s why I say guilty feeling."
Totally understand this feeling - it is from loss of freedom, liberty and choice, not having control that is causing a sort of PTSD you describe. I have the same problem when one restricts my choices as I and most people do not like their person choice to be restricted by anyone. This neurologist is taking away your freedom.
Take a deep breath. PM me if you need to discuss more. I believe you and don't think you are whining at all.
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3 Reactions@tatiana987
I confront the doctor and ask for reasons why they say or check certain boxes.
I have filed complaints with the County Medical Society, the State Board of Medical Quality Assurance. You can take them to court which I haven't done for myself, however I have gone to court several times on my father's behalf and prevailed each time. Most importantly I believe a good relationship with your doctor is essential and one who is approachable. I just changed doctors because my last doctor was not at all unapproachable. Remember the doctor is working for you not the other way around.
Take care,
Jake
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3 ReactionsBig thanks. That correction is important to me. I think my hearing is not the best. Blank, not black out. Clear. Thanks a lot.
My family language is complex. My nanny spoke German, her partner German and Czech, my mother was sick, absent a lot, spoke English and French, likewise father. We lived in Honduras (British community) and Palo Alto. Grandparents in Cuba winters, Indiana summers, I studied Russian and won some academic prizes. So even though I can fool people for a few minutes with my Palo Alto accent, I am a jumble of languages. I butcher 6 of them and get myself in trouble in multiple countries. My family members can only speak to each other, and some cousins have no language in common. Holidays are difficult. My kitchen table has speaking rules painted on it.
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1 ReactionThanks. Very kind f you.
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1 ReactionIll share an experience my Brother went thru in Rhode Island. He had a type of epiploic episode, and the doctor had to report it. What I found interesting was it was temporary. When DMV suspended his license with the cavate that if he didn't have any more episodes within a 6 months period he would get his license back. And he still driving today he never had another one.
I myself have had arrythmias so severe that my pace maker would have to shock me back into rhythm but even with that it was considered not a reason to suspend my license. Its based on risk. Anyone can have a heart attach for instance but the % of those who do and cause an accident is so low its not considered enough of a risk to refuse a license. So Have you actually been told by DMV your license is suspended? If not I would say that this one incident was not enough to suspend. Now I would guess that unless you have another one and DMV hasn't said anything your probably good to go Doctors on there own dont have the power to suspend. It would have to be the DMV. Hope that helps.
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4 ReactionsInteresting. Thanks. Nevada’s DMV rules are different. Here it all sounds reasonable, helpful, positive, but the reality is different. I had no incident like your brother’s. A few times, I fainted on a hot walk and I was on Repatha at the time, which made me light-headed or dizzy. I am also not at all skilled in medical vocabulary so I used some incorrect words to describe what happened. My doctor seemed to be projecting, predicting, but who knows what he thought. I had no diagnosis. He used the DMV term “loss of awareness” to get me required to volunteer to suspend my license. I thought humans lost awareness every night when they are sleeping.
Somebody here advised me to remember that the doctor works for me. I am not sure that is completely accurate. I would never allow anyone who worked for me to take my freedom to drive. I wish that doctor worked for me, but I think he works for the government.
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3 ReactionsI would get another doctor. I have had male doctors - and even “old” female doctors - say the most ridiculous things to me. I had PID once. A male forever made me contact my past sexual partners to let the know. I was NOT contagious. I had an older (in her 60s and I was around 29) tell me my vaginal infection was because I didn’t wipe properly. I lived in an area where I couldn’t offer that I was (am) gay and it probably was due to my GF working in a factory and not getting all the grease off her hands before sex. And a male doctor wanted to none why I wasn’t taking birth control (1986). I told him I was a lesbian. He said (paraphrasing), “Ok, but why don’t you use birth control?”.
Just because someone is a doctor didn’t mean they know everything and always are right. Get a 2nd opinion. Research your symptoms and rights. And ask the DMV what is required for you to get back your license.
I stopped seeing male doctors and I want to know up front what their reactions are to my last and my sexuality. I’m not trying to shock them, but I need to trust that they are in my corner.
Good luck.
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4 Reactions@hraka13
if you live in California, don't expect the DMV to be in your corner. They are impossible to work with. When I told my attorney that he readily agreed telling me several different incidents where people who never should be allowed to drive again were given their license back and others that did something so significant it never should've been taken away had their license revoked.
Take care,
Jake
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1 ReactionThanks for the good laugh at the doctor who needed help understanding the birds and bees.
I have been to two second opinion docs, ( my PCP and a neurologist in the same office as the jerk who is ruining my summer). Both refused to sign my DMV paperwork. Both said I needed to get release from the neurologist who did this to me. All three docs work for Renown in Reno and that might be my problem. These doctors seem to view helping me as going against a fellow doctor, I think. And the original jerk doc does not answer my messages. Both of these two second opinion docs are female. The jerk doc is male.
The DMV form asks how long I have been their patient, so a completely new doctor from a different organization might be rejected by the DMV. Arg! I never thought medical care could be so harmful. Silly me!
I am really getting down over this insane control of my life. My mental health is suffering. Insomnia, anxiety, plain old sadness at my loss of freedom. I was kidnapped once and that was a similar feeling.
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