Treatment for chronic Epstein-Barr virus (EBV)

Posted by cummings3 @cummings3, Jan 23, 2017

My son has been suffering with Epstein-Barr virus (EBV) for over a year. I have taken him to an immunologist and infectious disease doctor with no answers. He is always tired and never feels well. He has relapsed with Mono twice in the last 10 months.

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@suesm

Hi ! I am brand new and just diagnosed with CAEBV. I am a 62 year old woman and I have been sick with fatigue , fever, malaise and now enlarged spleen and shoulder pain. My blood results are 750 . I feel just awful.

I have joined because I need to have all of your support and your knowledge. I have no idea what to do. Help

Thank you,
Sue

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Hi Sue, I'm 64 and last year told my sister I thought I was dying. Fast forward a year and I am much better. I found a wonderful NP at an intregrative medical office that has helped so much. You have to find someone knowledgeable with EBV, thyroid and all the other components. I found out via a stool test I am also highly gluten intolerant and a few other things that go along with it. You can get better!!

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i have chronic active ebv and the only way i would get better is if i could find a functional doctor who would take my insurance around here but no such luck. they are all about money and hundreds of dollars. so i guess ill have to suffer lol. senior in ill health. God is my physician now, he is the only one who can heal whats wrong with me and he wont charge me a thing.

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@justme123

i have chronic active ebv and the only way i would get better is if i could find a functional doctor who would take my insurance around here but no such luck. they are all about money and hundreds of dollars. so i guess ill have to suffer lol. senior in ill health. God is my physician now, he is the only one who can heal whats wrong with me and he wont charge me a thing.

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Hello, I am interested if anyone has perspectives to share on how to manage.... I am a 49 year old male who is in excellent shape and started experiencing extreme fatigue 7 months ago, after a terrible cold that lasted a month. In addition to the fatigue I was having asthma like symptoms, chest pressure, pounding heart feeling and mental fog/clarity/confusion issues. A round of oral steriods knocked the symptoms out but they quickly returned once off the prednisone. Specialist visits, blood tests, tests, MRIs etc let me know what I didnt have (no cardiac issues, no asthma, no MS, etc), but no clarity on what was happening. Finally, 3 months in, in my third round of blood work I tested positive for active EBV infection (it didnt show up in the prior 2 tests but my PCP that EBV could be the cause so he kept retesting). I have found that Symbicort, which I was given early on for the potential asthma, makes my symptoms much more manageable. I am still extremely fatigued, requiring 9+ hours of sleep plus a 30-90 minute nap everyday between 2-5pm, depending on my level of activity (I know its time to sleep as my head “buzzes” and I get a sore throat), but I can work at my job, live life and do some level of light excercise-swimming for 15 mins, occasionally. Without the Symbicort I am non-functioning, unable to work / live daily life due to lack of mental sharpness and other symptoms. PCP says the small amount of steroids in Symbicort may be helping me address the inflammation and associated symptoms. I am concerned that by masking the symptoms I may be pushing myself too much, postponing actually getting better but I’m concerned about losing job, being non-functioning for my wife/kids if I just go off of it. Even missing one dose creates a dead zone in my day. I have adjusted my diet (no alcohol, caffeine, eggs, daily, gluten) to try to improve immune system etc but curious if others have better ideas given the circumstances. PCP says to just wait it out and should be gone after 12 months. Thanks for any thoughts.

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@justme123

It is diagnosed with a BLOOD test. I have Chronic Active EBV and the other CMV (herpes blood virus) that goes along with it (score 189) and my score is 209 for EBV. it is affecting my kidneys, liver, immune system and the vagus nerve in my ear and I have constant ringing in my left ear. It is also affecting my thyroid, and Naturopaths do recognize it. EBV is part of the herpes complex family and it is dangerous past a certain point and is either the result of or part of AutoImmune Disease (mainly Hashimoto's Thyroiditis & Graves).I have HM's and can not take meds for it because of the CAEBV. My doctor is going to prescribe me some Low Dose Naltrexone to try and manage it.

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Howdid you finally get tested. Seems difficult to find a Dr who will do this bloodwork.

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You can order tests yourself online at walkinlab.com. (that's walkinlab dot com in case they don't allow websites to be posted).

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@kjt1951

You can order tests yourself online at walkinlab.com. (that's walkinlab dot com in case they don't allow websites to be posted).

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The EBV-related tests offered at walkinlab.com do not appear to detect EBV DNA, the test of choice (as stated in the following article as well as other articles).
See: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5770746/

"we have found that elevated levels of EBV DNA in the blood are more specific for CAEBV than elevated levels of EBV antibodies. Most laboratories now perform ELISA tests for EBV antibodies, and these are often less helpful than the previously used quantitative immunofluorescent assay using endpoint dilution of serum. It is important that DNA PCR is done using either whole blood or peripheral blood mononuclear cells, rather than plasma or serum which is much less sensitive for diagnosis of CAEBV disease."

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I feel your sons pain! I have had mono a total of 9-10 times but in the last 2 years it has hit me twice a year with full blown. I have been tested positive for EBV virus couple of times to. Nothing I do seems to work. I kicked my doctor to the road and my GI doctor has said there is something going on. He has been concerned more than my regular doctor. I’m tired ALL the time, no energy. He has put me on a multivitamin with minerals and said I should see a difference in 7 days I will know by Tuesday if working but as of right now I see no change. He is recommended me to the Mayo Clinic to see if there is anything that could possibly help me. Daily injection or anything. At this point I’m up for anything I don’t care how far I have to go or the cost! I would just like to have some energy. There has to be something they can do. He is wondering if I have a auto immune issue. So praying I get in to see someone and they can help!
Prayers for anyone going through this!

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@lisajensen

@tmccarthy2019 Here is just a bit of what I can recommend. Unfortunately you need to read through this web site and gleen what you can from previous comments. It's time consuming but worth the time. No one person can give answers. So to answer one quick last question above... I think Chronic Epstein Barr Virus, and Chronically Active Epstein Barr Virus are the same. Next it was important that you mentioned that you had mono before. Because first time mono does not mean that you have to worry about it becoming a chronically active virus. Next, continually keep in mind that this is a virus. When ever you get confused... Look for treatments that are specifically for a virus. Next, don't worry about being infectious. Usually you are only infectious the first time you have mono. Chronic EB Virus is not infectious! Next, find a good Naturopath. No other type of doctor knows anything about CAEBV. Do not go to infectious disease docs. They will not help you. What I have found to help the swollen lymph glands and fatigue are daily:
500mg L-LYSINE or more for the virus
Good quality Vitamin B-12 and B-6 for energy
Vitamin C
Alpha Lipoic Acid for cell renewal
Some people have found luck with Monolauren
A prescription med of Acyclovir has helped many.
I do hope this information assists you. Best to you.
Lisa

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Thank you so much. I’ve started the lysine and monolaurin. I see immunology soon but I have a feeling it will be a waste of time. Hopefully she’ll at least give me the antivirals, my primary will not. Thanks again

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@mrmie

@tmccarthy2019 CAEBV and reactivated EBV are sometimes used interchangeably in error. CAEBV is a more severe form affecting multiple organs and can lead to death. It is usually defined with a marked elevation of EBV PCR (DNA). A reactivated form is definitely debilitating but not considered a deadly form. Reactivated EBV is not well acknowledged by conventional medicine. It usually gets ignored or you are simply told to exercise, eat well, and take an antidepressant. For more info and helpful links, check out
http://www.BackToLifeWellness.blogspot.com ...I'm curious as to how you were diagnosed.

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I’ve been battling health issues for years, but I went to the dr with increased fatigue, heart palpitations, I’ve collapsed a few times. She said it’s incredibly rare but I’ll test you for caebv. Loads of labs and here I landed. The labs came back with a huge “caebv” across the top. Thanks for the link, I’ll check it out

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I had mononucleosis in high school, got diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome and Epstein-barr at age 19, later diagnosed in early 20s with multiple sclerosis, Found that I actually had Lyme disease 25 years later, and now I am dealing with a very active reoccurrence of Epstein-Barr and have basically missed work and been bedridden for a month and still very fatigued. The book titled “medical medium “ by Anthony William has a very good strategy for Epstein-Barr and is the first book that actually makes sense and addresses this insidious virus. He provides a treatment plan, involving nutrition, Got health herbs, supplements, cleansing to Detoxify the Epstein-Barr load in your liver, spleen, blood and other organs. Is the first true hope that I have to really get over this illness.

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