Managing Lifelong Mental Health as a Senior

Posted by georgette12 @georgette12, Jan 13, 2017

I have just started using this site so this is my first message.

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@hopeful33250

@johnjames Thanks for your post about your fox hole. It doesn't sound silly at all! A safe place is anywhere that we feel safe (or safer) during a crisis. Thanks for that great insight in finding a safe place even during a war. As I think about it, I realize that we all have our “war-like struggles” and to find that "safe place" is very important. Just a message to the rest of our group, @georgette12 @safetyshield @jimhd @rspaulding @lesbatts @overwhelmed @ihatediabetes @johnhans, please share with the group, if you like, where your "safe place" is. Thanks to you all for your wonderful kindness and support to each other. As I've said before, you all really bless me! Teresa

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I had tongue roughage and my neighbor bought me a special brush to get it off. It sounds
like you are in the early stages, and it needs to be addressed now. Dr. Siversky at MCV
is a specialist in oral issues. My tongue roughage condition eventually led to a condition called
lichen planus, the lichen planus turned into erosive lichen planus and that turned into
cancer. You could have burning mouth, as my neighbor has. My Neighbor's doctor
told her all this comes from stress. It comes from the Immune system. Sooo you need
to find out what the problem is and it may be necessary to have a light biopsy in that
area. Your life depends on having a good doctor and YOU need to do some research
on your own with your symptoms on the internet. You need to become educated
so you can communicate with a good oral surgeon or ENT. I wish i had done internet
research then I would have known the serious cond. I was dealing with and I know I
would have confronted until I found the right doctor to listen to me and taken it serious
and now it is said that they don't know what to do after the fact. i don't want to alarm
you, but it does need attention in the early stages and it sounds like you in the very
early stages and it is a condition not yet cancer.

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@hopeful33250

@johnjames Thanks for your post about your fox hole. It doesn't sound silly at all! A safe place is anywhere that we feel safe (or safer) during a crisis. Thanks for that great insight in finding a safe place even during a war. As I think about it, I realize that we all have our “war-like struggles” and to find that "safe place" is very important. Just a message to the rest of our group, @georgette12 @safetyshield @jimhd @rspaulding @lesbatts @overwhelmed @ihatediabetes @johnhans, please share with the group, if you like, where your "safe place" is. Thanks to you all for your wonderful kindness and support to each other. As I've said before, you all really bless me! Teresa

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@elizabethbryant, Thanks for sharing your experience with @brit. It is important to keep looking for answers and being proactive. Teresa

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@hopeful33250

@johnjames Thanks for your post about your fox hole. It doesn't sound silly at all! A safe place is anywhere that we feel safe (or safer) during a crisis. Thanks for that great insight in finding a safe place even during a war. As I think about it, I realize that we all have our “war-like struggles” and to find that "safe place" is very important. Just a message to the rest of our group, @georgette12 @safetyshield @jimhd @rspaulding @lesbatts @overwhelmed @ihatediabetes @johnhans, please share with the group, if you like, where your "safe place" is. Thanks to you all for your wonderful kindness and support to each other. As I've said before, you all really bless me! Teresa

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I did have a culture test twice and all came back negetive. He ran that tube down my nose/ throat and said no cancer. It miss spoke saying it was flacky its kinda of chalky feeling . My dentist said get a tongue brush and brush my tongue it 3-4 times a day. It has helped.
My sister was director of pharmacy at a large hospital in Jacksonville and was so tired of all the "bad " things that regular medications does to people She went to China and lived with a tribe of people that only use nature-based medications. Everyone lived until after
100 years old and she seems to think its the acid on me stomach. She told me to take a dairy product called Kefir. I am a diabetic and
had to have sugar free I ordered it and am waiting for them to called me with my supply. It comes in different flavors.
Anyway, I am going to go with what she says and see where we go from there.
She always has said the Lord put everything on this earth to cure every ailments so I am going to try the natural way. Will keep you posted
Patti

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@hopeful33250

@johnhans and @elizabethbryant Thanks to you both for encouraging @brit in the idea of getting a second ENT opinion. You are such great encouragers! Thanks to all of you! Teresa

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I did have a second opinion and came up with the same answers. No cancer no thrush . They did take swabs from my tongue that came up negetive. I am going with my sister in law on natural medicine and see what it does. I will keep you posted and hopefully in a way that can help anyone going through this. My sister like I have said had a very good job as director of pharmacy but she couldn't take it any more seeing how medications were doing to people. She spent 6 months in the mountains of China with this guru and all that his tribe had ever taken was natural from nature. He said most people live into at least lat 90's and a lost into 100's. So guess where I am taking
my advise from
Anyone out there that has the same point of view. Those people said the Lord put every thing on this earth to heal any ailment and thats
what they do.
Any opinions would be appreciated.
Patti

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Music has been helpful for me on this journey. I have had many diagnoses, beyond many medications, years of therapy, suicide attempts, ECT, etc..
Throughout all of this, music has been a part of me, providing an avenue for expression of those deepest parts, from joy to despair. Whether writing, art or music, any of these can provide help with expression of feelings beyond the usual therapies
I thank God for this gift in my life. Blessings to all of you; your words have really touched me.

Charlotte

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@martinius Thanks for adding to our discussion. Music is a wonderful gift! Teresa

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@georgette12

Oh, just want to say something and then i will sign off. I gave my phone number to theresa and colleen. So i now can be contacted.
But i need to say one more time that i feel much safer than i did last week. To have our online community care so much and wonder if i was okay was not expected and it has so overwhelmed me with gratitude. I will definitely not do stupid things without checking in with you guys first! Blessings

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Thanks for coming back to share this @ihatediabetes. While I'm sure the trigger experience was difficult, it is good to know that there was a benefit and that the Connect community could contribute to that benefit.

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@georgette12

Johnjames, thanks so much for telling us about the pain specialist . i am praying that you will have more and more strength each day. I did not know that there are service dogs specifically for psych issues. I am going to look that up. My english bulldog serves the purpose for now. I lost my bassette hound last year at the age of 14. Long life for a bassette. My chow mix had also passed 6 months earlier. I got my puppy before gracie died because i knew i wouldn't do well when she passed. I stayed with my chow, louie, and of course with gracie as i had to make the decision to let each of them go. I still can't look at their pictures because it is still too traumatic. But louie did live 11 years which is long for his breed.

Oh...i used to work in rehab/hospice/alzeiheimers (wrong spelling there) facilities and we brought in petting zoos for our patients. We actually brought into the building and even up the elevator a llama, goat, pigs and rabbits and all sorts of unusual animals. They sat on the beds (well, not the llama and goat)! And everyone came out of their yukky mental and physical stuff they were dealing with. Even me! I carried a baby pig around all day but, unfortunately, the zoo wouldn't let me take him home. They found me hiding in a closet with him but they heard his squeeks through the door and found us.

It sounds like you have a loving wife and your comment about not wanting to leave her alone to suffer if you were "not here" is extremely compassionate and sensitive. Those who take their own lives have no idea of the life-long trauma they leave for their loved ones. It sounds like, even though you live with such mental and physical pain, you put your family first, and friends. Please keep us informed as to what is happening with you. You are definitely a role model and i feel encouraged when you share. Blessings.

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Teresa- Thank you for being such a friend-even those we have not met, I still can thank God for people like you, with a heart of compassion. JJAMES

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@lesbatts

These people are supposed to be Christians? I'd try another church if I were you and don't tell anyone about your background.
I do not go to church but I had plenty of it when I was a child, enough to make me not want to ever go to church again.
My family and close friends know that I am Bipolar and I never tell anyone else. I thought the bias was lifting against people with mental illnesses but I guess not.
Good luck and let us know how it goes.

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Jimhd.....i will check that NAMI info for you. I still get their newsletters. DBSA is DEPRESSION BIPOLAR SUPPORT ALLIANCE. I attended that as well. Another great peer support group country wide.

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@gailb

Georgette12, don't take from my post about the inch worm rule that I start out with distrusting people. I have a basic trust in people with the exception of those I pick up on right away as not being trustworthy. I will sometimes use the inch worm rule with them, and other times I will just stay away from those I think are not trustworthy. I understand that those empathic feelings I have are filtered through my own experiences and may be my own issue and not reflective of who that person is.

In the past I was too trusting and I had few boundaries, which meant I laid my heart and life out to everyone and was not able to discriminate between those who would respect and be kind to me, and those who might take advantage of my nievete'. I would often be hurt by untrustworthy people. I learned through therapy and years of personal work that I have boundaries that are real and necessary for me to live a productive and happy life. I learned to use the inch worm rule when my intuition told me that I needed to be cautious until i knew a particular individual better. This worked very well, especially in business situations. (I have worked all of my life, retiring in 2016.)

My life has been filled with situations where I could not trust the adults in my life, and had to rely on myself to keep me safe. Since I was a very young child, I didn't always make the right decision about safety. I also learned that at times the best way for me to get support was to open up to everyone, looking for the person who would love me. That is where my insecurity and my hyper-vigilance were in conflict and confusing for me. I first sought help with counseling when I was 24 years old. I grew up with my parents separating when I was 18 months old, after my father pulled both my arms out of my shoulder sockets sending me to the emergency room. My mother was pregnant with my sister at the time and she was very sick. She decided to send me to live with my aunt. I lived with my aunt until I was 4 years old. Then I came back to my mother, and I was totally confused about which woman was my mom at that point. By the time I was 5, my mother realized she could not take care of my 2 older brothers, my sister and me. She sent my brothers to live with our father in Denver, and my sister and I were sent to an orphanage in Missouri, where my mother lived. We were there until I was 12 years old. My grandmother bought a house so my mom, sister, and I could live with her. That lasted 2 years, and then my mother couldn't stand living with her mother. So, she took my sister with her and left me to tell my grandmother that she had gone to Denver. I ended up living with my mother in Denver after she had remarried my father, when I was 16. I was pregnant and married by the time I was 19. I needed to create my own stability. I had been in counseling for 3 years when realized my marriage was a mess and my husband was an alcoholic. My first husband and I were married for 9 years.

That's a snapshot of my history, which in detail is disturbing, but that would be just too much for this forum. Suffice to say mistrust and confusion were a big part of my psyche. I really needed counseling and I was aware enough to ask for help when I was 24 years old. My life steadily improved since then. I only realized about 4 years ago that I was depressed for most of my life, and again I asked for help. I am taking Citalopram now and it has had a tremendous affect on my happiness. Life is good now; I am fulfilled; I love my second husband of 34 years. I am very grateful for what I have learned and the opportunities I have had to choose to be successful in my life.

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My dear gail....thank you for sharing such a personal story . i was so happy to read that you have been married for 34 years in a loving and happy marriage. You chose happiness and peace and joy.....although you could have chosen the opposite. You are such an inspiration. I so wish you the continuing love and increasing happiness in your life and for your loved ones. Many many blessings to you.

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