Median Arcuate Ligament Syndrome (MALS)

Posted by Kari Ulrich, Alumna Mentor @kariulrich, Dec 26, 2016

I am looking for other patients that have been diagnosed with Median Arcuate Ligament Syndrome. Although it is caused by compression of the celiac artery many people experience abdominal pain after eating, diarrhea, food avoidance. Usually the first doctors they see are GI doctors. It is a diagnosis that is made after everything else is ruled out. I am curious if anyone else has had surgery?

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@jmmb

I have had 3 procedures for my MALS The first was a major open surgery. A little over a year later, they wanted to do a bypass but I was not healthy or strong enough so they put stents in celiac and SMA artery. I was rare since my sma was involved. Then I had a balloon in my celiac. It is now narrowing again. For me, this is going to be a life long thing. For many though, I have seen people have even laparoscopic surgery and eventually they are fine. These people usually have the compression and nerves taken care of . Every person is different. It is definitely possible to have one and done. It all depends on your situation. Honestly more often there are more than one surgery, but there are people with one and are fine.

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Thanks @jmmb. Unfortunately or fortunately I guess, I have good days and bad. The less I eat the more better days I have. So of course I am so hesitant to have such a serious surgery. If it were just about the eating, I think I could manage this but then I have the random pain without having eaten or I realize I don’t have the energy I used to. I know that probably won’t change without surgery. Thanks again for your input.

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Hi. These symptoms exactly match mine. I have had 8 years undiagnosed except for Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth (SIBO). Can MALS cause SIBO does anyone know or have? I am going to the Scottsdale MAYO clinic next week. Is there anything I should ask them or tell them to help them diagnose this if it is the condition I'm struggling with? Haven't been able to eat for 2 months so living on elemental diet which can even cause pain. Lost a lot of weight. I usually have exacerbations like this that put me in bed with epigastric pain and what feels like overwhelming autonomic nervous system symptoms but usually they come right in days to maybe 2 weeks but never this long so know I'm getting worse and I need a diagnosis. SIBO is not a diagnosis - there is always an underlying cause and I have had most others, except for SMAS, excluded. Diet modification does nothing. Medication, other than pain killers taking the edge off it and lorazepam calming me down, otherwise do nothing. It is very waxing and waning in symptoms, night or day. Exercise, stress and eating anything are the triggers. Sounds just like MALS to me. Should I also ask the specialists there to test me for vascular and connective tissue disorders? Thanks so much, this is all new but hopeful finally

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@catherineannfis

Hi. These symptoms exactly match mine. I have had 8 years undiagnosed except for Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth (SIBO). Can MALS cause SIBO does anyone know or have? I am going to the Scottsdale MAYO clinic next week. Is there anything I should ask them or tell them to help them diagnose this if it is the condition I'm struggling with? Haven't been able to eat for 2 months so living on elemental diet which can even cause pain. Lost a lot of weight. I usually have exacerbations like this that put me in bed with epigastric pain and what feels like overwhelming autonomic nervous system symptoms but usually they come right in days to maybe 2 weeks but never this long so know I'm getting worse and I need a diagnosis. SIBO is not a diagnosis - there is always an underlying cause and I have had most others, except for SMAS, excluded. Diet modification does nothing. Medication, other than pain killers taking the edge off it and lorazepam calming me down, otherwise do nothing. It is very waxing and waning in symptoms, night or day. Exercise, stress and eating anything are the triggers. Sounds just like MALS to me. Should I also ask the specialists there to test me for vascular and connective tissue disorders? Thanks so much, this is all new but hopeful finally

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Sorry to hear you are having trouble. I have learned a lot from reading through the previous posts from everyone. I am in Dallas and deciding on what doctor and when I want to plan the surgery. I am sure others here will be able to give you more advice. My symptoms are not as severe as yours (at times) but I understand the frustration and just pushing yourself through to get through the day. Frustrating too is how the symptoms can mimic other problems and trying to find a doctor that will keep pursuing until the right diagnosis is found. Hang in there and keep pushing until you get answers.

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I went to the doctors for pain I have been having for years. I have constant pain in my abdominal area. I have several scans done and they believe I have MALS (arcuate ligament syndrome). It’s my understanding they could determine it through scans. The Dr. wants me to get a nerve block if it works he said I have MALS if it doesn’t work I have something else. My question is are there some cases where a nerve block is required to determine MALS?

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@patrice207

I went to the doctors for pain I have been having for years. I have constant pain in my abdominal area. I have several scans done and they believe I have MALS (arcuate ligament syndrome). It’s my understanding they could determine it through scans. The Dr. wants me to get a nerve block if it works he said I have MALS if it doesn’t work I have something else. My question is are there some cases where a nerve block is required to determine MALS?

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Welcome to Connect, @patrice207. You'll notice that I moved your message from the Chronic Pain group to this existing discussion about MALS in the Digestive Health group. I did this so you can meet others who are talking about abdominal pain and MALS. I encourage you to read back through the past messages where you'll meet @kariulrich @jmmb @annief and others, and find useful resources and tips that they've shared. Perhaps they can answer your question about how a nerve block may be used to help diagnose MALS.

Feel free to ask questions to help you prepare for your next appointment with your doctor. Have you seen a GI specialist?

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@colleenyoung

Welcome to Connect, @patrice207. You'll notice that I moved your message from the Chronic Pain group to this existing discussion about MALS in the Digestive Health group. I did this so you can meet others who are talking about abdominal pain and MALS. I encourage you to read back through the past messages where you'll meet @kariulrich @jmmb @annief and others, and find useful resources and tips that they've shared. Perhaps they can answer your question about how a nerve block may be used to help diagnose MALS.

Feel free to ask questions to help you prepare for your next appointment with your doctor. Have you seen a GI specialist?

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Thanks. I saw a GI doc last Thursday and I'm having a Doppler Ultrasound of my SMA and hopefully exclude MALS tomorrow. He doesn't suspect it on clinical grounds though but I want to be sure since we've come all this way to Mayo and I have been diagnosed with Autonomic Instability and Mast Cell Activation Syndrome

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@patrice207

I went to the doctors for pain I have been having for years. I have constant pain in my abdominal area. I have several scans done and they believe I have MALS (arcuate ligament syndrome). It’s my understanding they could determine it through scans. The Dr. wants me to get a nerve block if it works he said I have MALS if it doesn’t work I have something else. My question is are there some cases where a nerve block is required to determine MALS?

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Hello @patrice207, welcome. You can determine MALS through certain scans if there is someone reading the scans who knows how to look for MALS. Usually a doppler ultrasound can be done and they will check for velocities of your arteries. Basically your blood flow percentages. Also a ct scan can usually tell as well. I never had a nerve block. I never even heard about it until 3 years after my first surgery. That is for patients that have all the pain and symptoms, and they want to see if there is a nerve involvement. If the block works, then the surgery should work. Mine was a blood flow issue. It can be both. I am sure this is all confusing to you. There is a lot of information out there now on MALS. You can google and read some medical resources. There is also lots of people on here that have been through things as well and can help. Good luck!

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@jmmb

Hello @annief . Sorry to hear you are not feeling well. MALS is a really tricky and complicated disease/diagnosis. I don't think any two people are the same. Usually all have general similar symptoms like you have described. My MALS was found by accident. I have always had stomach issues since I was little. Told IBS and had ulcers. About 4 years ago, the pain was so bad I decided to go to the er just for pain meds or something. They insisted on ct scan. The dr. came out and asked if I knew that my arteries were narrowed. I was like I don't know. He said I should see a vascular surgeon. I told my pcp an he got me into a University teaching hospital and with the chief of vascular surgery. I had no idea what was going on. They did the doppler and said my velocities in the celiac and SMA were literally off the charts and I needed surgery right away. I was a teacher and asked to wait for spring break he said no. I thought ok, I took a month off. Wow was I wrong. Now of course mine was different. I had two arteries and they were severely compressed and it was a mess and about 8 hr surgery. I did feel better after. Long difficult recovery, plus a lot of personal stresses, family deaths, which didn't not help. But my arteries were good. However, 5 months later they were narrowing again. My surgery was Feb. 2014, In Sept. 2015 I got stents put into each artery. It would have been best to do a bypass, but I physically could not handle that. I did feel relief again. Then it came back. I also had SIBO, which is a big issue to watch for. I was getting confused of what was what. If that is caught and taken care of, I think it would be fine. Mine wasn't. Oct. 2017 I had a balloon in the celiac. For me this will be a life long thing. That doesn't mean for you. I have heard people have open surgery and in a month feel a lot better and continue on that path. There are many that have had laparoscopic an out of the hospital in like 3 days and done great. It depends on the situation. If you are unsure I would definitely get a second opinion. I think, personally, it should be a vascular surgeon. I have not had luck with GI drs even acknowledging that MALS is causing damage to the stomach. I have heard though some GI drs were great in diagnosis of it.
Sorry not much help. As for eating, I used to try to stay away from certain foods. Honestly it didn't matter. Just depended on the day and how bad my symptoms were. Water is really hard for me. Weird I know, but if I am really thirsty and drink more than a couple of sips, it hurts so bad, even now. I would definitely eat SMALL MEALS and more often throughout the day. If you have a problem with eating, and one day something sounds good and is working, eat it all day, who cares as long as you get something in you.

Well good luck to you. Oh and I was 47 when I was diagnosed and my surgeon said I was young, but I don't think he realized it was truly MALS until he went in and saw the diaphragm compression. I don't think age matters so much as the shape and health you are in. Feel free to ask any questions. Don't know if this helped any....

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Kari, you are awesome.
I'm still hanging in there. Still 109 pounds at 6 foot,1inch. I can't gain any weight unless I can stop the pain and exhaustion.
My doctor has me taking a trial course of oxycodone, 5 mlg., 1/2 hour before I eat. I think it's working but I'm not comfortable about taking opioids. I keep a very close record of when and what I take in a daily notebook. I'm curious if anyone has ever taken opioids before eating and how successful they found it? The MALS surgery did not relieve the pain and exhaustion when I eat. Of course I eat small meals and avoid hard to digest foods.

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@ruudolpho

Kari, you are awesome.
I'm still hanging in there. Still 109 pounds at 6 foot,1inch. I can't gain any weight unless I can stop the pain and exhaustion.
My doctor has me taking a trial course of oxycodone, 5 mlg., 1/2 hour before I eat. I think it's working but I'm not comfortable about taking opioids. I keep a very close record of when and what I take in a daily notebook. I'm curious if anyone has ever taken opioids before eating and how successful they found it? The MALS surgery did not relieve the pain and exhaustion when I eat. Of course I eat small meals and avoid hard to digest foods.

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Hello: My husband was on Opioids for three weeks and lost weight, lost appetite, and had difficulty staying awake. When we transferred to Mayo Clinic (for 3 months opioids were not used. Thank goodness.It was a challenge to find food he liked. He slowly began to gain weight.
I encouraged him to listen to Dr Amit Sood's Mindfulness tape that I listen to regularly. Although both of our medical issues are much different from yours...the lessons learned about how to really relax eased each of our very different pain. Dr Sood has written several
books that are a interest read on the Body, Brain & Mind connection which has helped me heal and deal with breathing.

Our body often need time to heal and if we can learn to incorporate mindfulness and tell our brain to ease the pain and relax
our nervous system we can heal better. I wish you all the best. Oh, Dr Amit Sood has done some entertaining yet helpful talks
that can be found on You Tube. I hope this helps.

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@llwortman

Hello: My husband was on Opioids for three weeks and lost weight, lost appetite, and had difficulty staying awake. When we transferred to Mayo Clinic (for 3 months opioids were not used. Thank goodness.It was a challenge to find food he liked. He slowly began to gain weight.
I encouraged him to listen to Dr Amit Sood's Mindfulness tape that I listen to regularly. Although both of our medical issues are much different from yours...the lessons learned about how to really relax eased each of our very different pain. Dr Sood has written several
books that are a interest read on the Body, Brain & Mind connection which has helped me heal and deal with breathing.

Our body often need time to heal and if we can learn to incorporate mindfulness and tell our brain to ease the pain and relax
our nervous system we can heal better. I wish you all the best. Oh, Dr Amit Sood has done some entertaining yet helpful talks
that can be found on You Tube. I hope this helps.

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Thank you for your encouraging thoughts.

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