Autoimmune hepatitis: Questions about treatment and transplant

Posted by nativargas @nativargas, Jun 25, 2024

I’m 34, I’ve diagnosed HIA 23 year ago. Also hashimoto, and Sörgen.
Now my liver is with cirrosis and my treatment base is prednisone + metfomyne + diuretics +rifaximina. I’m expecting a transplant but I’m so afraid about it.

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Autoimmune Diseases Support Group.

Profile picture for chopin002 @chopin002

Diagnosed with autoimmune hepatitis .
Already have PMR , GCA, and Graves’ disease.
Taking a pass on treatment. The drugs sound worse than the condition and I am 71 years old. I believe 5-10 good years better than 10-20 poor, sickly years. Any try AZA without side effects. Already taken prednisone for 7 years and finally down to one mg. Staying there.

Jump to this post

I was also diagnosed autoimmune hepatitis Jan 2024. I'm on Cellcept. From what I've been told Cellcept is one of the better meds without TOO many side effects. I did go through several months of migraines, which did subside, and my hair is thinning. My feet, ankles do swell, and I get bloated, although I think that has to do with the liver, like severe itching (only at night). In spite of side effects, I have to say my blood work has been good so I work through it. The dark urine and jaundice is gone. The pharmacist said a lot of these side effects lessen as your body adjusts to meds. I hope so.

REPLY
Profile picture for maize @maize

I was also diagnosed autoimmune hepatitis Jan 2024. I'm on Cellcept. From what I've been told Cellcept is one of the better meds without TOO many side effects. I did go through several months of migraines, which did subside, and my hair is thinning. My feet, ankles do swell, and I get bloated, although I think that has to do with the liver, like severe itching (only at night). In spite of side effects, I have to say my blood work has been good so I work through it. The dark urine and jaundice is gone. The pharmacist said a lot of these side effects lessen as your body adjusts to meds. I hope so.

Jump to this post

Thanks for the info. Good to know there is an alternative.

REPLY
Profile picture for chopin002 @chopin002

Diagnosed with autoimmune hepatitis .
Already have PMR , GCA, and Graves’ disease.
Taking a pass on treatment. The drugs sound worse than the condition and I am 71 years old. I believe 5-10 good years better than 10-20 poor, sickly years. Any try AZA without side effects. Already taken prednisone for 7 years and finally down to one mg. Staying there.

Jump to this post

I am now on the no sugar bandwagon. It is hard, but it may help your liver if you ban sugar, if you have not already. Although I disagree with most of what Kennedy says, even a broken clock is right twice a day. Also make sure you keep on top of oral health. I can’t speak to the drugs, but my enzymes are almost back to normal and the only things changed are no sugar and taking care of a bad tooth. Oh - and I had a hip replacement - but that is another story - don’t get a hip replacement for your liver. lol. The bad hip did probably affect overall inflammation though.

REPLY
Profile picture for MyKai17 @mydiamondsx8

I was diagnosed with Autoimmune hepatitis in the beginning of 2024 and by Aug 2024, was started on Azathioprine & Budesonide because I declined Prednisone, I didn't want to gain more weight. After 2 weeks I couldn't stand the pain it was causing me, then they tried me on each medication seperately and a month later same thing happened. Then I was tried on Mercaptopurine and I had the same issue. I suffer from Fibromyalgia and have Hashimoto's and Hypothyroidism. At the moment I am on Cellcept and it seems to be working only issue is it's causing me water retention and have to take Furosemide.

Jump to this post

So AZA was causing you pain or budesonide? What kind of pain?

REPLY
Profile picture for chopin002 @chopin002

Diagnosed with autoimmune hepatitis .
Already have PMR , GCA, and Graves’ disease.
Taking a pass on treatment. The drugs sound worse than the condition and I am 71 years old. I believe 5-10 good years better than 10-20 poor, sickly years. Any try AZA without side effects. Already taken prednisone for 7 years and finally down to one mg. Staying there.

Jump to this post

I was dx tentatively in July 2021, then confirmed via biopsy in Dec 2021. I was 65. I didn't start treatment until March 2022 with prednisone. After 4 days at 40mg I was suicidal and raging, so was switched to budesonide. Per protocol, azathioprine was added once my numbers dropped and I've remained on 50mg since May 2022. My bloodwork has been spot on perfect since then. Zero side effects that I can attribute to aza except, and this is a big one - it raises your risk for skin cancer and I had my first squamous cell carcinoma just over a year ago. Given I spent my childhood burning on a beach in south Texas, the skin cancer didn't surprise me and is something I most likely would have gotten regardless.

Prior to dx, I had increasing joint pain, intolerance to heat, exhaustion, and slight shortness of breath. None of those things resolved with aza and in Jan 2024, I was dx with Sjogren's and put on hydroxychloroquine. The exhaustion resolved, but nothing else. I recently stopped that med to see if it was actually doing anything.

The plan is to repeat the liver biopsy this fall and, if it's clear, to wean off the aza. The risk is that if I flare and have a recurrence, it's much more difficult to tame and would most likely require prednisone, which I can't tolerate.

Questions for you: How were you dx? Bloodwork alone is not definitive. Neither is a CT or Fibroscan Only a biopsy is the gold standard for AIH. What are your liver numbers like?

REPLY
Profile picture for jeannef2025 @jeannef2025

I was dx tentatively in July 2021, then confirmed via biopsy in Dec 2021. I was 65. I didn't start treatment until March 2022 with prednisone. After 4 days at 40mg I was suicidal and raging, so was switched to budesonide. Per protocol, azathioprine was added once my numbers dropped and I've remained on 50mg since May 2022. My bloodwork has been spot on perfect since then. Zero side effects that I can attribute to aza except, and this is a big one - it raises your risk for skin cancer and I had my first squamous cell carcinoma just over a year ago. Given I spent my childhood burning on a beach in south Texas, the skin cancer didn't surprise me and is something I most likely would have gotten regardless.

Prior to dx, I had increasing joint pain, intolerance to heat, exhaustion, and slight shortness of breath. None of those things resolved with aza and in Jan 2024, I was dx with Sjogren's and put on hydroxychloroquine. The exhaustion resolved, but nothing else. I recently stopped that med to see if it was actually doing anything.

The plan is to repeat the liver biopsy this fall and, if it's clear, to wean off the aza. The risk is that if I flare and have a recurrence, it's much more difficult to tame and would most likely require prednisone, which I can't tolerate.

Questions for you: How were you dx? Bloodwork alone is not definitive. Neither is a CT or Fibroscan Only a biopsy is the gold standard for AIH. What are your liver numbers like?

Jump to this post

Thanks for the info. I was diagnosed with a liver biopsy. Already have 3 autoimmune conditions. Taken pred for 7 years. Highest dose was 30 mg. Been on just 1mg past 2 years. Can’t go that route again and gave already had skin cancer. Seems the cure is worse than the condition in some cases.

REPLY
Profile picture for mayo99824 @mayo99824

I am now on the no sugar bandwagon. It is hard, but it may help your liver if you ban sugar, if you have not already. Although I disagree with most of what Kennedy says, even a broken clock is right twice a day. Also make sure you keep on top of oral health. I can’t speak to the drugs, but my enzymes are almost back to normal and the only things changed are no sugar and taking care of a bad tooth. Oh - and I had a hip replacement - but that is another story - don’t get a hip replacement for your liver. lol. The bad hip did probably affect overall inflammation though.

Jump to this post

Thanks, I’ll try the sugar bandwagon too. Better than the meds. Also turmeric could be helpful.

REPLY
Profile picture for chopin002 @chopin002

Thanks, I’ll try the sugar bandwagon too. Better than the meds. Also turmeric could be helpful.

Jump to this post

Be super careful with turmeric. It can become liver toxic.

REPLY
Profile picture for chopin002 @chopin002

Thanks for the info. I was diagnosed with a liver biopsy. Already have 3 autoimmune conditions. Taken pred for 7 years. Highest dose was 30 mg. Been on just 1mg past 2 years. Can’t go that route again and gave already had skin cancer. Seems the cure is worse than the condition in some cases.

Jump to this post

How bad are your liver enzymes? And what were the results of your biopsy? Mine was only mild fibrosis, so fully recoverable.

Whether the cure is worse than the condition depends a lot of how bad your liver already is. There's a FB group support group for AIH and multiple members have needed liver transplants, some very quickly after dx. I would also prefer to not take the meds (there is no cure), but don't want to risk a liver transplant.

REPLY
Profile picture for jeannef2025 @jeannef2025

So AZA was causing you pain or budesonide? What kind of pain?

Jump to this post

Well as I mentioned I have fibromyalgia and have yet to find any relief from the pain although I stay as active as possible and I sleep about 3-4 hours a night. I had Lupus about 26 yrs ago and misdiagnosed until 2004 then Hydroxychloroquine helped. Then came fibromyalgia but meds don't work for me. So when I was diagnosed with AIH meds made my belly swell and the pain was widespread aching and I could barely move due to Azathioprine and Budesonide, then they tried them seperately and same thing happened. With Cellcept my numbers are usually pretty good once in awhile they go a bit higher then normal but the belly still swells and I have water retention. If I skip a couple of doses when I am feeling ill the belly goes down almost flat, that is my only complaint.

REPLY
Please sign in or register to post a reply.