PMR and prednisone

Posted by gramsof6 @gramsof6, Sep 19, 2024

I was diagnosed in April with PMR. Because it was mainly in my shoulders I saw an orthopedic surgeon who put me on an inflammatory. Shortly there after I had an appointment with my rheumatologist and diagnosed me promptly.
He started me on 5mg 2 to 3 a day of prednisone.
The problem is I am a diabetic but was only on metformin. Now I am using small doses of insulin. What I don't understand, did you stay on a consistent everyday?
On days I feel great I avoid taking my prednisone. Recently my pain is now in my thighs which is affecting my ability to walk. I have a granddaughter that plays college soccer, 2 granddaughters that play high school varsity soccer and we attend high school football games. This means that at least 4 times a week I am climbing bleachers. I believe this is a contributing factor to the thigh pain. I am OCD about my house, enjoy cooking and canning and I am also a quilter. I am finding these activities difficult too. I am really confused about the proper way I should be taking my prednisone. My rheumatologist is aware that I am concerned about my sugar and has not established a definite guide line for taking the prednisone. I use infrared heat, supplements, oils and Voltaren
I would appreciate any suggestions. I did receive a steroid injection in one arm because the bursa was so inflamed it caused a large painful bump. Has anyone tried physical therapy or massages? Today was horrible and I retreated to bed. I am so glad I found this group and am looking forward to any suggestions. We are planning a trip to Gatlinburg and would enjoy hiking. Thank you, Deb from Ohio

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@bostonredsox1945

Has ant doctor for PMR recommended cannabinoids and removing Prednisone?

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I’ve never heard of a doctor or rheumatologist using or recommending a cannabinoid as a replacement treatment but maybe others might have experience. Doesn’t make any sense to me. I can see where it may help with pain but not with inflammation or returning you to normal.

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@oldbtstlshrp2

Out of curiosity; do you still have all the side effects of the Prednisone daily? Have you learned or been able to train your body & mind to bypass the side effects and be functional? I have managed to accomplish that feat with my chemo by staying active after taking , since 2004. I dropped my recent reduction from 12.5mg to 10mg this morning and accomplished some work in my garden, meal preps, seedling transplants but it kinds kicked my rear. Now a headache and semi nauseated-weird.
Thanks for sharing

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No side effects I amaware of except rise in
Insulin which is getting better.

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@oldbtstlshrp2

Thanks for that input. I am constantly experimenting with splitting doses between A.M. & P.M., different time of day for body clock function etc. I am on 12.5mg currently from 15mg last week & before.

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I do the same thing. Trying to get optimal cortisol levels to keep me going during the day. Seems like some days there are other factors where fatigue dips and legs get wobbly. And I am tappering so depending on that schedule…I think everybody experience is different so I think we have to listen to our bodies. Thanks

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I was diagnosed with PMR this past February and have been on Prednisone since. Just weened down to 2mg per day in the morning. We live in an area close to the mountains and the weather can change from snow to warmth in a matter of hours. This definately affects my PMR. The pain is so bad that I can hardly get up and walk, let alone do stairs. It's worse in the mornings til about noon. I was diagnosed with Costochondritis many years ago and this week I had some very severe chest pains that I almost went to the hospital. I read up on this website and I saw that others have had the same problem. I went to my doctor the next day and he confirmed that PMR can affect this. I've never had the pain that I've experienced in the past few months. I don't know if I'll ever get off taking Prednisone.
I glad I found this group that can relate to what I'm going thru. It will take over a year before I can see a rheumatologist as they are so back logged here. One very interesting fact I discovered about PMR is that it is prevalent in people from the Scandinavian countries.

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@allinge

I was diagnosed with PMR this past February and have been on Prednisone since. Just weened down to 2mg per day in the morning. We live in an area close to the mountains and the weather can change from snow to warmth in a matter of hours. This definately affects my PMR. The pain is so bad that I can hardly get up and walk, let alone do stairs. It's worse in the mornings til about noon. I was diagnosed with Costochondritis many years ago and this week I had some very severe chest pains that I almost went to the hospital. I read up on this website and I saw that others have had the same problem. I went to my doctor the next day and he confirmed that PMR can affect this. I've never had the pain that I've experienced in the past few months. I don't know if I'll ever get off taking Prednisone.
I glad I found this group that can relate to what I'm going thru. It will take over a year before I can see a rheumatologist as they are so back logged here. One very interesting fact I discovered about PMR is that it is prevalent in people from the Scandinavian countries.

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Your PMR is probably not in remission, and if so, you are not on the proper prednisone dosage. You really need to find a doctor soon that can treat you correctly. It does not have to be a rheumatologist.

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@art43

Your PMR is probably not in remission, and if so, you are not on the proper prednisone dosage. You really need to find a doctor soon that can treat you correctly. It does not have to be a rheumatologist.

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I agree with art43. It would be impossible to get to 2mg pain free if the PMR is still active. Mine lasted 6 months and I feel mine went into remission fairly quickly. PMR can stay active for years in some.

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@nancy53

So sorry that you have PMR. It's a hard disease to regulate. I imagine even harder with diabetes.

I don't think skipping your doses of Prednisone is a good idea. From what I've read, your adrenal glands produce cortisol and stop functioning with the presence of the drug. Those little white pills are very potent, and not followong the dosing protocol can be very dangerous. Not taking it probably contributes to the pain you are having,

My onset of PMR was last December. I started on 20mg of Prednisone, taken in the morning. I've taoered to 5.5mg by reducing 0.5mg every 2-3 weeks. If I hurt, I go back up 0.5mg and slow my tapering.

Yoga, acupuncture, walking, and swimming have helped my pain. I am active in my home and garden. Some days I don't do much which drives me crazy. Fatigue requires an after lunch rest - sometimes nap.

Probably the most important aid to recovery is your diet. Since December, I have eaten a very "clean" diet. The Arthritis Foundation has great info. Basically, I try not to consume processed food, white flour, sugar, sodas, red meat, and alcohol. I do have a treat every once in a while.

Prior to December, I was a very active 70 year old. Trying to get back to pre PMR levels of activity has been a challenge, I think I need to just relax a bit and enjoy the little things.

My best advice for you is to STUDY and READ all you can about this awful disease. YouTube has some great videos, most from the UK. This link helped me tremendously at first. https://youtu.be/fjk27oGh2aQ

Good luck and enjoy your grandkids!

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The video was very helpful
Thank you

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@tuckerp

I agree with art43. It would be impossible to get to 2mg pain free if the PMR is still active. Mine lasted 6 months and I feel mine went into remission fairly quickly. PMR can stay active for years in some.

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How did you know that your PMR was in remission after six months? I started being treated in December and my rheumatologist started me at a low dose of 4 mg of prednisone. I never had to go any higher as that dosage took away all my pain. I feel like my PMR is a mild case. Just wondering how you knew your PMR was in remission and how soon after diagnosisyou started tapering down.

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@mimi1204

How did you know that your PMR was in remission after six months? I started being treated in December and my rheumatologist started me at a low dose of 4 mg of prednisone. I never had to go any higher as that dosage took away all my pain. I feel like my PMR is a mild case. Just wondering how you knew your PMR was in remission and how soon after diagnosisyou started tapering down.

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Your PMR does sound very mild. Thats what makes this disease so hard for one to say this works when it doesnt work for someone else. I believe just from being on this site and a facebook site that my 6 months was fairly mild as well. I would almost question whether PMR was the correct diagnosis at 4mg. Prednisone can be used on almost any inflammatory disease or reaction. In any case, if it worked thats great. I started at 20mg. Pain was gone in 4 hours. Within the first 2 weeks you can play with the dosage to get to your lowest possible dose. After about 2 weeks the prednisone is supplying your cortisone and your body shuts down production. I went to 15mg after 2 days. No Pain. 2 days later I dropped to 10mg. No pain. 2 days later I dropped to 5mg and had trouble with movement. I went back to 10mg and no pain. I would try to taper about once a month to 5mg and was unable to taper. On the 5th month I tapered to 5mg and only slight pain. I went about 2 weeks on 5mg then tapered to 2.5mg. I had some slight discomfort but manageable. After 2 weeks I went to zero. I had some slight discomfort that an alleve would fix for 3 to 4 months. It took almost a year to feel like it was gone. To answer your question, I went by how well I responded to lower the dose. You can check sed rate and ESR but those tests were not elevated for me. The testing was not effective. I would continually try to reduce my prednisone. My opinion is you should move from 4mg to 3mg? see what happens and keep trying to reduce. Move as quickly as your body allows. The prednisone makes you feel wonderful but the long term use is pretty destructive.

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I'm struggling in the mornings with my arms. I'm currently on 10mg & my doctor suggested I go to 9mg after 4 weeks which will be tomorrow. Has anyone tpered whilst still in pain

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