I have a syrinx and can't find a doctor that knows much about it?

Posted by kritter19 @kritter19, Mar 2 7:15pm

Im desperate for relief in my neck, brainstem area. I am numb in every limb, random Nausea, circulation issues, i am desperate for any direction on how to go about getting an appointment at mayo or anyone who knows a surgeon familiar with syrinx?

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Thanks so much, i really appreciate it:)

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@kritter19

2021 on mri. The neurosurgeon dismissed it and neck pain has gotten worse, headaches, Nausea, so much more. It's really long, pain management doctor thinks it could be reason for symptoms getting worse?

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@cantstopwontstop

You could have atlantoaxial or craniocervicalnonstability happening simultaneously just based on the symptoms you listed bc they r same as me and I have no syrinx but I do have atlantoaxial instability and subluxation. I believe all of this is unfortunately not covered enough in med school or something bc I had several top neurosurgeons and neurologists completely miss this for 4 years until I had to figure it all out myself. There is a Dr. Atul Goel who is rated the #1 top neurosurgeon in India and for a few years, he ranked and was awarded an award for being literally the best neurosurgeon in the world. Anyway, he also tackles the atlantoaxial instability problem and he has published many great works on the topic. I watched a lecture of his just today on atlantoaxial instability where he delved into the associated co-morbidities & related problems of this undertreated & under-recognized condition. One of his beliefs is that syringomyelia and syrinx, as well as chiari- are all not just separate "bad" clinical entities, but they are divine natural protection that our bodies create as a defense mechanism to the primary problem of atlantoaxial instability, Subluxation, or dislocation. he claims, and has the literal perfect record of his own patients' success to back his claims up- that he doesn't look at these particular presentations as malformations at all, rather the body's protective mechanisms in response to the AAI or craniocervical instability, to save us from acute sudden death or further brainstem sagging. He also claims that he has abandoned all decompression surgeries now because of this. He claims that once the spinal instability is fixed, the syrinx will go away naturally on its own without requiring any further surgery to address it.
just wanted to share this precious info in case it serves relevant to you! Don't know all your details of the situation but I can say after 4 years of me living with what I have and being gaslit by soooo many doctors simply because they don't understand enough (if anything) about this particular presentation occurring in brainstem or spinal cord

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Did u go to this doctor? How do u fix the instability?
I really appreciate u sharing this information. God blesd

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@kritter19

So do you think going to one of those doctors specifically is best? I've called 2 more neurosurgeons locally and asked if they specialize in syrinx and syringomyelia and got a no not really and a well the doctor treats all things related to the spine......the lady who answered the phone had never heard of syrinx and apologized for not being of much help:(

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You normally see this with Chiari 1 malformation. Has anyone ever mentioned that

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@cheryl46

You normally see this with Chiari 1 malformation. Has anyone ever mentioned that

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No. I've seen it in doing my own research.....mri shows syrinx at t7 & t8 with 5cm craniocaudal?? With scoliosis, which is didn't have growing up. I'm 41 now and the syrinx showed up on mri 2021, 2023, 2025

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@cantstopwontstop

You could have atlantoaxial or craniocervicalnonstability happening simultaneously just based on the symptoms you listed bc they r same as me and I have no syrinx but I do have atlantoaxial instability and subluxation. I believe all of this is unfortunately not covered enough in med school or something bc I had several top neurosurgeons and neurologists completely miss this for 4 years until I had to figure it all out myself. There is a Dr. Atul Goel who is rated the #1 top neurosurgeon in India and for a few years, he ranked and was awarded an award for being literally the best neurosurgeon in the world. Anyway, he also tackles the atlantoaxial instability problem and he has published many great works on the topic. I watched a lecture of his just today on atlantoaxial instability where he delved into the associated co-morbidities & related problems of this undertreated & under-recognized condition. One of his beliefs is that syringomyelia and syrinx, as well as chiari- are all not just separate "bad" clinical entities, but they are divine natural protection that our bodies create as a defense mechanism to the primary problem of atlantoaxial instability, Subluxation, or dislocation. he claims, and has the literal perfect record of his own patients' success to back his claims up- that he doesn't look at these particular presentations as malformations at all, rather the body's protective mechanisms in response to the AAI or craniocervical instability, to save us from acute sudden death or further brainstem sagging. He also claims that he has abandoned all decompression surgeries now because of this. He claims that once the spinal instability is fixed, the syrinx will go away naturally on its own without requiring any further surgery to address it.
just wanted to share this precious info in case it serves relevant to you! Don't know all your details of the situation but I can say after 4 years of me living with what I have and being gaslit by soooo many doctors simply because they don't understand enough (if anything) about this particular presentation occurring in brainstem or spinal cord

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It is a shame the many times I read, see, and hear of patients "figuring out" things on their own either through research, self-referrals, blog sites such as this. I find that most physicians would prefer the quick and easy cases.....what a shame after all their long hours, nights of training. Not many are willing or have the resources, in some cases to do their own investigative medicine. Probably not their original thoughts on becoming a healthcare provider but since medical/patient care is now being run as a business model that's what happens and the patient/patient care is suffering for it. Large research centers are our best bet as that's what is being evaluated....the patient and clinical presentation

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@kritter19

2021 on mri. The neurosurgeon dismissed it and neck pain has gotten worse, headaches, Nausea, so much more. It's really long, pain management doctor thinks it could be reason for symptoms getting worse?

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I was diagnosed with a syrnix about 9 years ago. Pain management wanted another MRI to check on it, because they thought it was causing me issues. Miraculously the next MRI did not show one!
Not sure if that is common or not.
Best of luck on your journey.

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@kndaustin71

It is a shame the many times I read, see, and hear of patients "figuring out" things on their own either through research, self-referrals, blog sites such as this. I find that most physicians would prefer the quick and easy cases.....what a shame after all their long hours, nights of training. Not many are willing or have the resources, in some cases to do their own investigative medicine. Probably not their original thoughts on becoming a healthcare provider but since medical/patient care is now being run as a business model that's what happens and the patient/patient care is suffering for it. Large research centers are our best bet as that's what is being evaluated....the patient and clinical presentation

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Totally agree....im so tired of the 10 min appointments and out the door u go. Or they send u to another dept. Yesterday I showed my primary care doctor the written mri about the syrinx and he said I don't know but I can send u to a neurologist?

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@cbc615

I was diagnosed with a syrnix about 9 years ago. Pain management wanted another MRI to check on it, because they thought it was causing me issues. Miraculously the next MRI did not show one!
Not sure if that is common or not.
Best of luck on your journey.

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Wow. Was it thoracic or cervical? The syrinx?

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