Why don’t anxiety meds work for me?

Posted by dorothy1914 @dorothy1914, Feb 13 5:13pm

In Sept. 2024 out of nowhere I developed extreme anxiety. Went to primary care doctor and was prescribed Effexor (which I had successfully taken previously). This time it didn’t provide any help. Dr. then prescribed Lexapro (which didn’t help) and then Celexa (which didn’t help). By this time, I lost 45 pounds by not being able to eat and constant diarrhea. Dr. then told me to find another practitioner as there was nothing more she could do for me. Since then I have seen 4 PNP and none of their prescribed meds have helped. What do I do?

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@dorothy1914

@rick98
Rick, the problem is I never went through a slow taper. I was a patient at the Detox center for a 7 day program. The medical personnel there claimed this was all it would take to detox me from 6 months of using Ativan or Xanax. While there, I never had a moment where I felt any different to when I was home. I saw alcoholics transform from hiding away in their rooms, only leaving to rush to the bathroom, and in a matter of days, they were eating their meals and watching tv in the common room and conversing with other patients. I kept waiting for something to happen to me. When I left after 7 days, I felt just the same as before I got there. Almost as soon as I was discharged, I had to start using the Ativan again. I don’t know what to do or whom to contact. I am stuck between a rock and a hard spot. This is getting to be too much for me and my husband who is bearing the brunt of my outbursts.
Claudia

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I can offer you complete understanding, empathy and compassion. This is the terrible situation that the government, the medical field and pharmaceutical industry has done to us. We are victims of their ignorance and giving these medications to us. You're absolutely right that the Detox harmed you and I am so sorry. We can not trust any of those detox centers ever because they have no understanding of Benzodiazepine tapering and the harm they do to people like us. It's awful every day and understand you perfectly. We're going through nearly the same thing. I'm not having the rages but my insomnia is very bad, my nerves are hanging on and I am not in panic attacks. I try to do whatever I can to not upset my nervous system more. Sometimes I just lie under a blanket with my head on a pillow focusing on breathing through my nose and gently out my mouth for hours just praying over and over. But I also have to force myself to do some things out of bed each day but then I have to lie back down. I try to stay hydrated with juice with water and I try to eat something as nutritiously as possible through the day. Trying to survive this each day. I know how hard it is because I am also living it. I can't be certain because of my lifetime history of debilitating mental health episodes but I think what's happening to me is due to the long-term inconsistent use of Clonezepam. I feel as you said caught between a rock and a hard spot every day sadly. With you always accompanying you in your suffering.🙏😥

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@dorothy1914

@rick98
I never made it to the therapist on Monday as I was too panicky. I now can’t see him until March 10. I don’t know if my heart will hold out. I emailed him about a long taper but he said he doesn’t know if that will be appropriate until we meet in person.
Claudia

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I don't think a therapist can prescribe for you but from what you have said it appears that no one understands the complicated situation with any and all benzodiazepines. Dr. Josef has been mentioned and he certainly understands the situation and as dedicated his life to helping people like us. In my case, I have no way to afford his help or else I would seek him out immediately. He has many lengthy YouTube presentations addressing all the issues in talks and interviews with fellow sufferers from Benzo harm. The content can be very frightening so I can't in good conscience suggest you watch his documentary videos on the subject because it can be very scary and set us into a worse nervous condition which it has for me, on the other hand, it's all very informative and I have ideas on what to expect. One of the most important things is to find a provider who will continue to prescribe for us whether that be for the rest of our lives or over the course of a long, slow taper which done with the best safety we can expect is very precise and slow holding at points for extended periods for the nervous system to adjust. It's very hard to find proper treat for this for us in this country so sadly😥

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@dorothy1914

@rick98

Just got back from a visit to a new PNP. I was told he could do a long taper. Instead of the long taper he just wanted to put me on klonopin. I said I would have to think about it and I left. I don’t know what to do.
Claudia

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Some suffering people try another benzodiazepine to replace the one they had been on and the outcomes from what I have read can be helpful and sometimes not. I could not say any recommendation. I wish I could but I can't. There is a group called Benzo Buddies online 24/7. I connected and am a member there. Again I have to say that so.e of the posts are frightening but there is helpful information there. I think the suggestion I got from a member Faith to split my 1mg daily in .5mg 12 hours apart at the same time daily 10am and 10pm in my crisis maybe could be helping even out my anxiety and keeping me out of panic at least; other than that I don't know yet. It's only been a week and a half.
You could talk with the PNP and express your concerns and would need some reassurance that he will help you every step of the way if you go that route. I don't know what is right in these situations truthfully I don't know either. I don't know what to do in my own situation either and it scares me to death daily

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@rick98

I don't think a therapist can prescribe for you but from what you have said it appears that no one understands the complicated situation with any and all benzodiazepines. Dr. Josef has been mentioned and he certainly understands the situation and as dedicated his life to helping people like us. In my case, I have no way to afford his help or else I would seek him out immediately. He has many lengthy YouTube presentations addressing all the issues in talks and interviews with fellow sufferers from Benzo harm. The content can be very frightening so I can't in good conscience suggest you watch his documentary videos on the subject because it can be very scary and set us into a worse nervous condition which it has for me, on the other hand, it's all very informative and I have ideas on what to expect. One of the most important things is to find a provider who will continue to prescribe for us whether that be for the rest of our lives or over the course of a long, slow taper which done with the best safety we can expect is very precise and slow holding at points for extended periods for the nervous system to adjust. It's very hard to find proper treat for this for us in this country so sadly😥

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@rick98
What do you think about this provider (Psychiatric Nurse Practitioner) wanting to prescribe klonopin to me and his insistence that I did indeed go through detox in this 7 day ‘miracle cure” as opposed to a proper long taper. He also said if I preferred, I could just go back on the Ativan .5 in the am, .5 in the afternoon and 1mg at night. I tried explaining that it would put me right back where I was before I even went to the Detox center — addicted to Ativan. He didn’t seem to understand the point I was trying to get across. Also, in a short time of taking the Ativan, they stopped working so, again, I would have to up my dosage. I don’t know the right thing to do. I have been trying to find a phone number for Dr. Josef as he has a new facility in Tucson, Arizona, but I can’t locate the info on the internet.
Claudia

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@rick98

Some suffering people try another benzodiazepine to replace the one they had been on and the outcomes from what I have read can be helpful and sometimes not. I could not say any recommendation. I wish I could but I can't. There is a group called Benzo Buddies online 24/7. I connected and am a member there. Again I have to say that so.e of the posts are frightening but there is helpful information there. I think the suggestion I got from a member Faith to split my 1mg daily in .5mg 12 hours apart at the same time daily 10am and 10pm in my crisis maybe could be helping even out my anxiety and keeping me out of panic at least; other than that I don't know yet. It's only been a week and a half.
You could talk with the PNP and express your concerns and would need some reassurance that he will help you every step of the way if you go that route. I don't know what is right in these situations truthfully I don't know either. I don't know what to do in my own situation either and it scares me to death daily

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@rick98
I also joined benzo buddies. Yes, some of the posts are very frightening. I had to go to the dentist today as I canceled my last 3 appointments due to not being able to get dressed and leave the house. My heart had been pounding for about 15 hours by then and my face was flushed and my head was hot. I didn’t think I could stay in the dental chair. I told the dentist that I would pay additional if they gave me nitrous oxide but the cost had gone up to $300 so I changed my mind.

The Physician’s Assistant canceled my appointment for March 10 as he said reviewing my history of benzos use, he would not prescribe any more. So there goes my last hope of getting a long taper.

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@rick98

I can offer you complete understanding, empathy and compassion. This is the terrible situation that the government, the medical field and pharmaceutical industry has done to us. We are victims of their ignorance and giving these medications to us. You're absolutely right that the Detox harmed you and I am so sorry. We can not trust any of those detox centers ever because they have no understanding of Benzodiazepine tapering and the harm they do to people like us. It's awful every day and understand you perfectly. We're going through nearly the same thing. I'm not having the rages but my insomnia is very bad, my nerves are hanging on and I am not in panic attacks. I try to do whatever I can to not upset my nervous system more. Sometimes I just lie under a blanket with my head on a pillow focusing on breathing through my nose and gently out my mouth for hours just praying over and over. But I also have to force myself to do some things out of bed each day but then I have to lie back down. I try to stay hydrated with juice with water and I try to eat something as nutritiously as possible through the day. Trying to survive this each day. I know how hard it is because I am also living it. I can't be certain because of my lifetime history of debilitating mental health episodes but I think what's happening to me is due to the long-term inconsistent use of Clonezepam. I feel as you said caught between a rock and a hard spot every day sadly. With you always accompanying you in your suffering.🙏😥

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@rick98
I am not going to start the klonopin. It is really a seizure medication. Rick, I am just so tired from trying to get help. These providers (unless they have been through something like this themselves) are clueless to help us.
Claudia

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@ellerchim
I can’t find the phone number for Dr. Josef. He has a new facility in Tucson. I keep searching on the internet. I will keep trying.

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Info@taperclinic.com
He can also connect you to reverent doctors that could help you

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@dorothy1914

@ellerchim
Hello, had an appointment with a new PNP. I was told by the front desk reception that he could do a long taper. I don’t think he knew what that was and only wanted to prescribe klonopin 2 times a day for me.

Then, the PA that I have/had an appointment with on March 10 as a backup for the long taper, just left me an email stating he does not feel comfortable prescribing Ativan for me and I should find another provider. What now?

Claudia

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Take the klonopin, life is too short.

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@dorothy1914

@rick98
Rick, the problem is I never went through a slow taper. I was a patient at the Detox center for a 7 day program. The medical personnel there claimed this was all it would take to detox me from 6 months of using Ativan or Xanax. While there, I never had a moment where I felt any different to when I was home. I saw alcoholics transform from hiding away in their rooms, only leaving to rush to the bathroom, and in a matter of days, they were eating their meals and watching tv in the common room and conversing with other patients. I kept waiting for something to happen to me. When I left after 7 days, I felt just the same as before I got there. Almost as soon as I was discharged, I had to start using the Ativan again. I don’t know what to do or whom to contact. I am stuck between a rock and a hard spot. This is getting to be too much for me and my husband who is bearing the brunt of my outbursts.
Claudia

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Claudia I don’t know how old you are or really anything about you other than the fact that you suffer from anxiety and depression.
I can only tell you as I have posted before anxiety and depression are genetic and run in families. Much like any other disease it is nothing to be ashamed of but rather something to deal with. I went years not even knowing what depression was but realizing something wasn’t right. I would cycle in and out of this thing I didn’t understand until one day I was coming back on the train from Chicago on a business trip and picked up a Time Magazine to read on the way home
The cover of the Magazine featured a headline regarding Prozac. I read the article and finally had a name for what I had felt on and off through my Freshman year in college.
The next day I called my primary care physician and told her this article was about me. She prescribed Prozac but unfortunately it actually caused me to be more anxious. She switched me to Zoloft and over time I started feeling better. She also referred me to a psychiatrist who I started seeing on a regular basis. That psychiatrist became a friend in a professional way and over time he added Buspar, Wellbutrin and Clonazepam to make my Zoloft more effective.
Yes Zoloft had sexual side effects and I tried other antidepressants but always came back to Zoloft while staying consistent with my other medications.
Now I am almost 74 years old and I have cut my Zoloft in the last few years to 50mg from 100mg. I have kept my dosage of Buspar, Wellbutrin and Clonazepam the same and find it works for me.
I read all the posts about the terrible side effects from getting off Clonazepam and my heart goes out to all those people. I have been taking the same dose of Clonazepam for over thirty years and never once changed it.
The point of this post is yes it can be addictive much like smoking, drinking or taking Opioids. If that is the case by all means stop taking it. On the other hand if you have no side effects and you don’t find the need to increase your dosage be fortunate that you are one of the lucky ones.
I am blessed with a great primary care physician who rather than refusing to prescribe it for me says if it isn’t broke don’t fix it.
I watched my mother who suffered from terrible bouts of depression self medicate with alcohol and it made my childhood a living hell.
All medications have side effects and you have to weigh that against the positive effects they have on your life.
I wish everyone who took the time to read this post the best. There is no one size fits all and never will be. I hope you all finally find the peace I have found and enjoy your life.

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