Does anyone else have MGUS?

Posted by mjlandin @mjlandin, Jun 4, 2022

I was diagnosed with MGUS last October and although I've done a lot of research, I feel there's still so much I don't know. Does anyone else have MGUS?

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@amyboylan1 @ladyesheryl

I found this helpful.
https://www.myeloma.org/what-are-mgus-smm-mm
After reading it, I realized that I needed to ask more questions next time I saw my hem/onc doc. I made a list and took it with me. I think I actually saw him wince when he looked up and saw me holding my notebook. Ha! But to his credit he sat down and answered all of my questions.
If your physician is not taking time with you to fully explain what's happening in your body, you need to get a second opinion and basically interview that doctor to see if it's a better fit. Run your questions by him or her.
Don't feel bad about having lots of questions. I freaked out when I was first diagnosed but three years out I'm feeling pretty confident that I have as good a handle on this as I need to have.
When do you see your hem/onc doctor next?

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@pmm

@amyboylan1 @ladyesheryl

I found this helpful.
https://www.myeloma.org/what-are-mgus-smm-mm
After reading it, I realized that I needed to ask more questions next time I saw my hem/onc doc. I made a list and took it with me. I think I actually saw him wince when he looked up and saw me holding my notebook. Ha! But to his credit he sat down and answered all of my questions.
If your physician is not taking time with you to fully explain what's happening in your body, you need to get a second opinion and basically interview that doctor to see if it's a better fit. Run your questions by him or her.
Don't feel bad about having lots of questions. I freaked out when I was first diagnosed but three years out I'm feeling pretty confident that I have as good a handle on this as I need to have.
When do you see your hem/onc doctor next?

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I have blood taken and see her in June. I think she’s a good doctor and specializes in MM. I tried to get into Mayo but they rejected me saying I had a good doctor. Are you still n MGUS?

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@pmm

@amyboylan1 @ladyesheryl

I found this helpful.
https://www.myeloma.org/what-are-mgus-smm-mm
After reading it, I realized that I needed to ask more questions next time I saw my hem/onc doc. I made a list and took it with me. I think I actually saw him wince when he looked up and saw me holding my notebook. Ha! But to his credit he sat down and answered all of my questions.
If your physician is not taking time with you to fully explain what's happening in your body, you need to get a second opinion and basically interview that doctor to see if it's a better fit. Run your questions by him or her.
Don't feel bad about having lots of questions. I freaked out when I was first diagnosed but three years out I'm feeling pretty confident that I have as good a handle on this as I need to have.
When do you see your hem/onc doctor next?

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Thanks for contacting me. It really helps to connect with others. I feel pretty isolated with this.

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@amyboylan1

I have blood taken and see her in June. I think she’s a good doctor and specializes in MM. I tried to get into Mayo but they rejected me saying I had a good doctor. Are you still n MGUS?

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my numbers were starting to go up and I experimented with curcumin/turmeric. I checked with all the right people before I did it to make sure that I wasn't taking any medication's that would not mix and I talked to my oncologist. He sort of rolled his eyes but said he did not object to me trying it. So the last year since I've been taking this supplement my numbers are back to where they started three years ago.
Now I'm basically an empiricist, and it takes a lot more than anecdotal information to convince me that this is the sole reason for this improvement. And it doesn't mean that my numbers won't go up again. But it made me feel as though I was doing something in a situation where we practice patience in watchful waiting.
i'm so glad that you found a doctor and whom you have faith. I think that means a lot.

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There are 2 issues I would comment on.
First the testing for progression. Several comments have been made that I agree with. However, there are other modalities that have not been mentioned. If you are thinking of getting a 2nd opinion re testing, I would rec a high level cancer center like Mayos that would have access to all testing pertinent for MUGUS.
The second issue has to do with treatment. Again, I would agree with the comments that have been made re treatment. Certainly, you would not want potentially toxic treatment for a nonmalignant condition. On the other hand, there have been homeopathic treatments that have slowed the progression of MUGUS without any toxicity. An example is curcmin. If you are considering one of these, it would be important to discuss it with your oncologist.

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@pmm

my numbers were starting to go up and I experimented with curcumin/turmeric. I checked with all the right people before I did it to make sure that I wasn't taking any medication's that would not mix and I talked to my oncologist. He sort of rolled his eyes but said he did not object to me trying it. So the last year since I've been taking this supplement my numbers are back to where they started three years ago.
Now I'm basically an empiricist, and it takes a lot more than anecdotal information to convince me that this is the sole reason for this improvement. And it doesn't mean that my numbers won't go up again. But it made me feel as though I was doing something in a situation where we practice patience in watchful waiting.
i'm so glad that you found a doctor and whom you have faith. I think that means a lot.

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Thanks. I hope the turmeric/Curcumin will help make a difference. Take care.

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@harty

There are 2 issues I would comment on.
First the testing for progression. Several comments have been made that I agree with. However, there are other modalities that have not been mentioned. If you are thinking of getting a 2nd opinion re testing, I would rec a high level cancer center like Mayos that would have access to all testing pertinent for MUGUS.
The second issue has to do with treatment. Again, I would agree with the comments that have been made re treatment. Certainly, you would not want potentially toxic treatment for a nonmalignant condition. On the other hand, there have been homeopathic treatments that have slowed the progression of MUGUS without any toxicity. An example is curcmin. If you are considering one of these, it would be important to discuss it with your oncologist.

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@harty
When you refer to MUGUS do you mean MGUS or is that some variation? I am still learning about MGUS.

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@pmm

my numbers were starting to go up and I experimented with curcumin/turmeric. I checked with all the right people before I did it to make sure that I wasn't taking any medication's that would not mix and I talked to my oncologist. He sort of rolled his eyes but said he did not object to me trying it. So the last year since I've been taking this supplement my numbers are back to where they started three years ago.
Now I'm basically an empiricist, and it takes a lot more than anecdotal information to convince me that this is the sole reason for this improvement. And it doesn't mean that my numbers won't go up again. But it made me feel as though I was doing something in a situation where we practice patience in watchful waiting.
i'm so glad that you found a doctor and whom you have faith. I think that means a lot.

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How much do you take, Patty? And brand?
I was taking 4 gms daily of Thorne curcumin and my FLCs dropped about 25%.
I got tired of taking 8 capsules a day and cut back to 1 gm/day. They went back up. So considering resuming the higher dose. The m-spike remains low though, regardless. Thanks, and glad you’re doing well.

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@pmm

my numbers were starting to go up and I experimented with curcumin/turmeric. I checked with all the right people before I did it to make sure that I wasn't taking any medication's that would not mix and I talked to my oncologist. He sort of rolled his eyes but said he did not object to me trying it. So the last year since I've been taking this supplement my numbers are back to where they started three years ago.
Now I'm basically an empiricist, and it takes a lot more than anecdotal information to convince me that this is the sole reason for this improvement. And it doesn't mean that my numbers won't go up again. But it made me feel as though I was doing something in a situation where we practice patience in watchful waiting.
i'm so glad that you found a doctor and whom you have faith. I think that means a lot.

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Knowing that you had a positive result is real encouraging. I have a real trouble following the watchful waiting program.
My M-protein and IgM values have been doubling every 6 months and I went through the same reaction as you and also decided to give Curcumin a try. My oncologist had the same reaction as yours. I interpreted her reaction as she was just a going by the book type person and would never encourage deviation from the standard protocol most likely due to liability concerns. Can't really blame her for that.
I had read about an ongoing trial that was using 8 grams/day but couldn't find out any other specifics. So for the last few months I slowly ramped up using the C3 complex formula. I'm currently up to about 6 grams/day of 95% curcuminoids per day.
Can you tell me more details about your situation regarding blood tests results and curcumin/turmeric protocol?

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@leslie2121

How much do you take, Patty? And brand?
I was taking 4 gms daily of Thorne curcumin and my FLCs dropped about 25%.
I got tired of taking 8 capsules a day and cut back to 1 gm/day. They went back up. So considering resuming the higher dose. The m-spike remains low though, regardless. Thanks, and glad you’re doing well.

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@leslie2121
I am taking QUNOL ultra strength turmeric curcumin complex. I take 1000 MG twice a day.
My PCP hooked me up with the PharmD associated with her clinic and we went through all my medication's and talked about dosage. I have no Gastro issues with the dosage.
I think physicians need to have more data before they jump on this bandwagon. The studies that I have found related to curcumin have been very small samples. This one that I'm posting below is 25 patients. So the information is anecdotal and thus physicians consider it unreliable. I'm good with that. I don't think that the risk associated with taking curcumin (for me anyway) is prohibitive.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10966979/

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