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Metabolic therapy for cancer

Posted by birdman518 @birdman518, Jun 20, 2023

I have several posts here about my newly-diagnosed metastatic melanoma, but I wanted this to be a new thread.
I was looking for alternative therapies for cancer, and I was afraid that most of them would seem, well, a little kooky (sorry, but that's what I thought).
I found one, however, that seems to be both outside the mainstream standard-of-care, but yet very well represented in the scientific literature, including at least one Nobel Prize (Warburg), and that is the metabolic theory of cancer. It seems as though its primary promoter is Dr Thomas Seyfried of Boston College. He is a professor of biology, genetics, and biochemistry at Boston College.
He has many books, articles, and videos online, so it is easy to learn about this theory.
I cannot go into it in detail, but its premise is that cancer is a metabolic disease, and not a genetic one. Please take the time to look at the details before shooting me. 🙂

My only question here is whether anyone else has looked into this, and what do you make of it? Did you ever ask your oncologist about it?

Interested in more discussions like this? Go to the Cancer Support Group.

Marsha myboysthree | @myboysthree | Jan 5 10:25am

Thanks for sharing this information. My 34 year old son, was recently diagnosed with rectal cancer. to answer your question, yes, as a chiropractor, he is very much a believer in the metabolic theory that Dr Seyfried speaks of. As a young adult I have very little say in the matter of his treatment plan. So I have to have faith in him as a doctor that he will make the best decision on what he wants to do to manage this unexpected illness that has been brought before us.
I must admit though, as his mother, letting him take the reins with this, has been one of the hardest decisions I have ever had to make. I was feeling absolutely helpless until the day I turned this situation I have no control over, to God. Since then I have felt as though a big weight has been lifted off my shoulders. My faith in him is very strong and I believe with all my heart that he will be there for both us us every step of the way.
Sending hugs 🤗 and prayers 🙏 to everyone who is being impacted by this unfortunate event.

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Denise | @denisestlouie | Jan 6 6:18am
In reply to @artsy625 "I understand and have read and watched Dr . Siegfried many videos. He does talk of..." + (show)
@artsy625

I understand and have read and watched Dr . Siegfried many videos. He does talk of L-Don and one other medication that I assume a doctor must give and understand. The diet myself and my daughter are on it but she is fighting cancer and I think we need more guidance. Hence the question.

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Look for a Functional Doctor. Functional Doctors will look your daughters entire health history for clues as to what caused the disease process to start. They will consider all the health systems metibolic, microbiome, harmons ext.

A functional Doctor can give you direction in this area and can complement the work of the oncologist.

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Denise | @denisestlouie | Jan 6 6:20am
In reply to @randall654 "As a new patient myself- I am very interested in this Press Pulse Keto and Glutamine..." + (show)
@randall654

As a new patient myself- I am very interested in this Press Pulse Keto and Glutamine suppression in intervals. The logic seems very sound and especially if it supports a non-toxic way to improve efficacy of lower dose chemo and radiation in combination. So conventional treatments can continue but with the support of starving out the cancer. I am very interested in keeping this thread alive and understanding how to get the assistance for treatment and care in conjunction with / aligning with traditional oncology in tandem.

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Look for a functional doctor

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Marsha myboysthree | @myboysthree | Jan 6 8:09am
In reply to @denisestlouie "I am of the belief cancer is a metabolic disease. There are many researchers who claim..." + (show)
@denisestlouie

I am of the belief cancer is a metabolic disease. There are many researchers who claim the history as well. there's many very good books on the subject. Most diseases are caused by some issue of a body that's not functioning as it was intended. When nutrition is addressed symptoms reduce or reverse.

I also don't believe you can starve cancer. The diet we eat will strengthen our body or starve our body of nutrients. I'm using an integrated approach to my cancer treatments. My thought is surgery and chemotherapy gave me time to figure out how I want to live knowing I had an aggressive cancer that is resistant to conventional therapy. I decided that it's my responsibility to live in a manner that will support my body. I am working with both a functional/holistic Doctor and an oncologist. I'm still early in my cancer experience and I'm not ready to try unproven, but interesting treatments weather that's a medical trial or alternative treatments.

I started following a metabolic syndrome diet before starting chemotherapy. It's not that easy especially if it's foreign to your old food patterns. I also used fast mimicking product around chemotherapy. I stayed metabolically healthy through the 4 1/2 months of chemotherapy. The main side effect was the diminished immune system and you don't feel that until there is an infection.

Going forward I plan to stay as close to this diet as possible. I don't think I can actually get to a point of ketosis. It's to difficult to cut out carbohydrates to 20 or 40 grams per day and keep the diet diverse and enjoyable.

I am also trying to follow the he 150 minutes per week of moderate exercise. There is also some pretty compelling research for exercise after a cancer diagnosis.

I'm trying to limit exposure to toxins but that's nearly impossible.

I've read some great books written by either PHDs or MDs that try to convince the reader that these are valid approaches. We will never have the level of research that chemical drugs have. Who would fund that the Leafy Green industry?

Fuel your body for success. I am. I've lost so much weight and I was just outside my BMI when I started. Now I'm skinny, but muscular. I'm not wasting. If it weren't for the wrinkles I look like I did 40 years ago. Because what I eat is dense in nutrients and low on calories I can not over eat.

I miss pineapples and I miss potatoes the most. I have cheat moments when I'll take a few off my daughter or Mel's plate. I've also ate chocolate pie at Thanksgiving. I've tried to cut highly processed foods. It's difficult because my partner keeps bringing chocolate bars and potato chips into the house. It's really hard when people around you don't get it and are commenting on my food choices and figure. "You need to put on weight"

Social networks are important, but the ones I have aren't always supportive of my path to health.

Denise

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Thank you for sharing, Denise
I will certainly pass this information along to my son as he prepares his body before starting chemo.
Greatly appreciate it ❤️🙏

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tkk | @tkk | Jan 6 9:23am

I have also been looking at Thomas Seyfried videos...I have squamous cell carcinoma in my outer ear for the past few months...Only thing I have done so far is the biopsy....But I have been doing many of things suggested in the Press Pulse Method and will continue to do. I am totally against the traditional genetic treatment method currently offered.

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Myak | @janet23 | 1 day ago
In reply to @janet23 "Carb Genius Phone App I started a 25 gram carbohydrate diet about one year ago, and..." + (show)
@janet23

Carb Genius Phone App

I started a 25 gram carbohydrate diet about one year ago, and it is very challenging to keep carbs that low!

I recently discovered a fabulous app called Carb Genius by MyNetDiary to help me. The app is easy to use and it integrates with my Apple Watch data and other devices. I enrolled a premium account for added features.

Here is link to a YouTube video :


The nutrient analysis feature helps me identify nutrient deficiencies. I am able to add in supplements to be included in the analysis. In addition, the app also allows me to customize the dashboard to include glucose, ketones, weight, etc.

My BMI is 19 and my goal is to maintain my weight. The goals you set to lose, maintain, or gain weight are calculated for you and the app includes many tutorials.

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Update: I continue to find the Carb Genius app helpful for keeping me in ketosis. I use the app's fasting feature to track when I fast. I try to stick with a 20-gram carbohydrate diet that is nutritionally balanced, with added vitamin and mineral supplements I was low in.

My Functional Medicine prescribed a continuous Glucose Monitor (CGM) to monitor my blood glucose. My blood sugar is within normal limits, but my GKI Index is too high for fighting cancer. I now have a diagnosis of pre-diabetes. My A1C is 5.6-5.7, but I don't want to take meds.

My winter organic garden is full of the cancer-fighting foods recommended in the book Eat to Beat Disease. Gardening and growing foods that fight Cancer brings me joy. In the spring, I will plant my spring garden

I try to have a positive outlook and to enjoy each day, knowing that I am doing all I can to fight Cancer.

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Denise | @denisestlouie | 7 hours ago
In reply to @janet23 "Update: I continue to find the Carb Genius app helpful for keeping me in ketosis. I..." + (show)
@janet23

Update: I continue to find the Carb Genius app helpful for keeping me in ketosis. I use the app's fasting feature to track when I fast. I try to stick with a 20-gram carbohydrate diet that is nutritionally balanced, with added vitamin and mineral supplements I was low in.

My Functional Medicine prescribed a continuous Glucose Monitor (CGM) to monitor my blood glucose. My blood sugar is within normal limits, but my GKI Index is too high for fighting cancer. I now have a diagnosis of pre-diabetes. My A1C is 5.6-5.7, but I don't want to take meds.

My winter organic garden is full of the cancer-fighting foods recommended in the book Eat to Beat Disease. Gardening and growing foods that fight Cancer brings me joy. In the spring, I will plant my spring garden

I try to have a positive outlook and to enjoy each day, knowing that I am doing all I can to fight Cancer.

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That's awesome. What are you correcting with the keto diet?

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