Is there a time constraint for PFA procedure after diagnosis of Afib?
After the diagnosis of Afib is there a time constraint when the use of PFA procedure may not be able to successfully remedy the source of Afib electrical signals? I was diagnosed with Afib on 27 Dec 2024 (now 02/07/2025) and the only actions have been a prescription for Eliquis (the price of a car payment) and Diltiazem. To me that is just dealing with the effect of Afib and not the cause. Kind of like putting buckets on the floor to catch dips when it rains because there is a hole in the roof.
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Reasonable question!
AF begets AF. That's Rule 1. So.....try not to be in AF.
Easily said, not so easily done. Initially, when you are still paroxysmal (it comes and corrects itself on a whim), you needn't be concerned. It is as the disorder evolves to persistent, long-standing persistent, and finally to permanent that you should seek perhaps an ablation, or maybe just a different medicine regimen...whatever you agree to use. (It's always a personal decision!)
AF is a progressive disorder, and it has potential dangers. First is the clotting risk, and that has been addressed with the apixaban. Secondly, diltiazem has both a rate control factor and a mild rhythm control effect. From what I have heard, it's a good drug. But, if you would rather not be on drugs, and don't mind the idea of a catheter ablation, the latest literature says that a catheter ablation is the 'gold standard' for treatment of AF.
Bottom line, you want to get a firm grip on the disorder, and you want to be in AF as seldom as possible. If you find you're losing ground and are getting more frequent and/or lengthy bouts of AF, despite drugs, then you should probably consult a good electrophysiologist nearby, or travel to the best, and get ablated. I have had two ablations, and only the second worked. Same physician EP, same hospital, but it took a first (AKA 'index') ablation to learn that I needed more work than what he did the first time. Fortunately, the second time worked like a charm and I have been off everything except apixaban ever since.
PFA is new, but they continue to advance the procedure all the time. I learned just the other week that it is now approved for, not only the standard PVI (pulmonary vein isolation), but also to isolate the left atrial appendage (LAA). PFA's advantage over the thermal/RF ablation is that there is much less risk of damaging the Vagus and phrenic nerves, and of the esophagus. Accordingly, they don't necessarily have to insert a trans-esophageal cardiogram probe down your throat while you are out and being ablated (the TEE allows them to monitor how close the burning needle is to those sensitive non-targets).
Hi - please see link below for 2023 guidelines - hope that's useful - and fyi, another advantage [PFA v. RFA} is PV stenosis - all the best!
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIR.0000000000001193
Yes, quite so, and yet another advantage, thanks to woodside.
I note that, unfortunately, PFA doesn't seem to enjoy, so far, an improvement in the durability of keeping the patient free of AF for more than one full year, which is the criterion for a 'successful' ablation. The figure cited below shows that both RFA and PFA have the same efficacy in that regard, meaning about 75% of all ablated patients, either method, are free from AF. The rest need a re-do or another intervention:
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.124.070333
This, to the analytical mind, would tell you that it must be another factor that determines whether or not an ablation, either method, is going to succeed. That factor must be one only, and that is the skill of the electrophysiologist performing the procedure. So, shop carefully!
I'm thinking it could also be how long you have gone undiagnosed with a fib..or how often you are in a fib,as well as the experience and expertise of the surgeon...and possibly even the anatomy of your heart
Yes, although part of the assessment for an ablation is imaging that is designed to look for the outcomes of being persistently in AF, for several long months or years. For example, the structure and condition of the mitral valve, the extent of collagen deposition in the myocardial substrate, and the extent of fibrosis. These have a bearing on the likelihood of success of an ablation, as does the extent of atrial enlargement. The very best EPs have better success treating AF when these undesired conditions are more advanced.
Your time frame is very short indeed. 6 weeks: 27 Dec 2024 (now 02/07/2025).
Generally speaking it is not necessarily a must do fix as soon as you are diagnosed.
Part of the problem is there is a large shortage of EPs because of the vast amount of baby boomers coming into the system.
It is understandable you feel this way and you are correct. They are just treating the symptoms. The longer you stay out of fib the better. Permanent Afib stresses the heart a great deal leading to complications and heart damage. If you are in Afib for brief periods and then in normal (sinus) rhythm more often then you are in relatively good shape. Ask you doc or the nurse how long does it take to get more advanced treatment. I hate being in Afib as it wears me down physically.
One year rates of success defined as no Afib are almost meaningless. We need 5 year outcomes and seeing that PFA has barely been around one year it is going to take awhile to see these outcomes.
AF begets AF. That's Rule 1. So.....try not to be in AF.
Really "try and not to be in AF". If it were only that easy.
Yes, one can try not to be in AF by being active in one's own management of it, by learning about triggers, and by taking medications when they are prescribed...AS prescribed. It really is that easy...at least for those whose motivation is strong enough.
Thanks of the reply. I live in SW Colorado (Mancos Valley) and no hospitals in this area are certified to provide any ablation procedures. I either have to fly to Denver or Phoenix (the only 2 cites severed). I am currently in discussions with University of Colorado Medical Center regarding the potential for a PFA procedure. Nothing goes fast when you live in a rural community.