Tips on minimizing withdrawal symptoms from Effexor (aka Venlafaxine)

Posted by richyrich @richyrich, Nov 2, 2016

I have been taking Effexor/Venlafaxine for years and tried to get off it a few times but each time I try to give up the chemical withdrawal symptoms are a horror story and I give up giving up. Anyone got any tips or tried and tested strategies? Thank you

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@jakedduck1

@taylorwatkins13

Your name rings a bell, I might have replied to you. I looked back but didn’t find your post. I’ll have to make a more intense look later.
I too was depressed, at least that’s what my doctor said. I always had a handle on my emotions but while reading a letter I started to cry and cry again while watching a sad movie. First let me say I understand people are unique and some need alternative therapies. I was criticized for saying this in the past but I sincerely believe it to be true so here goes. A UPS man delivered a package to me and we were talking about depression. His son was depressed. He told his son “You have a choice, you can be happy or sad, it’s up to you.” I truly believe that’s true. I thought hard about that and stopped my medication. I feel you need to believe in yourself and have confidence. I feel when you dwell on yourself you’re going to be miserable and/or unhappy. When I developed Epilepsy which was very severe from day one I didn’t have my emotions in order and had a nervous breakdown. I kicked holes in nearly all doors in the house, painted my bedroom black, threw my TV out my bedroom window and it only got worse from there. I was a raving lunatic. My parents took me to a couple Psychiatrists but nothing helped until my Dad got fed up. After he fixed all the doors the window, helped me repaint my room and even bought me a new TV which I certainly didn’t deserve. Then he sat me down (Probably not to gently either) and told me “How the Cow ate the Cabbage.” Maybe your family needs to tell you “How the Cow ate the Cabbage.”
Were you once social and withdrew from that? Were you always depressed? You must know why it’s hard to make it threw the day. Maybe you do need to see a doctor. You might need medication to get over the hump but don’t keep taking it and using it as a crutch. Your going to have to face your problems. You have no choice about that if you ever expect to regain true happiness. Remember, you only get out of life what you’re willing to put into it. Don’t be afraid to ask God for help, “With Him all things are Possible.” I’m sure you know how to be happy and I have faith that you’ll succeed. Please keep us informed.
Wishing you the best health and happiness ever!!!

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@jakedduck1 Leonard, I believe theoretically what you say, but aren't there some people who really do want to be happy but due to chemical imbalances they just can't get there? I think many people would be offended with the attitude of "choose to be happy" because they feel they are not choosing to be depressed, and telling them that it is their CHOICE would only make them feel worse. I would be interested in hearing the opinion of a really good professional on this.
Again, as I said, I do theoretically believe what you said, and when I have been depressed for short periods I have managed to pull myself out of it, but aren't there some people who just cannot? I would be very hesitant to encourage a person to get off of antidepressants in case that would make things worse for them.
JK

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Hello. I'm a brand new member. I am on 2 different meds for depression, and anxiety. I see my doctor in two weeks. I am going to talk to her about getting off these meds I've been on for one year. I read so many of the replys and I'm very nervous. I was going through alot when I was originally placed on these meds. I believe that they definitely saved me, but I'm hoping I no longer need them. I will keep you posted. I'm happy I found this group.

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@coloradogirl

So, I just finished this process with Zoloft (sertraline) and here are some things that worked for me. Your mileage may vary, but hopefully these are low risk for you to try.

1) You may need to ask your doctor for a slower tapering program than other patients. Some people are just more sensitive to dosage changes. Be aware that symptoms will get better, then may reappear each time you taper. AAFMA (practice group of family physicians) says that the symptoms typically last 1-2 weeks and as long as 4 weeks, so I just kept reminding myself that it was temporary.
2) Be watchful for things that make your symptoms worse. For example, caffeine seems to trigger the brain zaps for me (still, even after being off for several weeks), so I cut back my caffeine intake. I didn't give it up completely (because I still need to function), but cut back on how much real coffee I was drinking, mixed decaf with regular, and switched to tea sometimes. In the end, I probably cut my daily caffeine intake in half, and it did help quite a lot.
3) Ibuprofen or other pain reliever can help with the flu-like body aches.
4) Benadryl helped with the brain zaps.
5) Exercise helped with both. Even if I wasn't up to a run, a few blocks of walking would settle down the symptoms for a while at least. (Then, when they come back, just take another walk. We took a lot of walks for a while there).
6) Get enough sleep. As I came down off the meds, my normal sleeping patterns returned, which was great, but it did mean that I needed to plan time to let my body rest.
7) Pay attention to your diet. Your brain uses carbs to make seratonin, so now is not the time to go on the Atkins diet. Eat well and make sure you're getting enough healthy carbs. You may crave sweets; I certainly did. I tried to counteract this by having bananas, graham crackers, and other healthy things I could snack on instead of sticking my head in a birthday cake like I seemed to want.

No lie - it's a painful process, but this did really help make it easier. Also, at a certain point, when I was down the below the normal starter dose, I just ripped off the bandaid and went to zero. At that point, it felt like each taper was just prolonging the suffering. Don't just go cold turkey from your current dose, though, as that can be dangerous. Also, don't add any supplements or substitutes for the SSRI without talking to your doctor first (also dangerous).

And of course, watch for the return of depression / anxiety type symptoms. For a while it was hard to tell whether I was tired because of the change in meds or because my depression was returning. I figured as long as I felt okay enough to function and wasn't thinking about being harmful to myself or anyone else, I could play it out and see. It turned out to be the meds and on the other side, I can see that I was more worried about it than I needed to be.

I wish you the best of luck and a healthy life.

Mardee

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Seems very extreme for anxiety. I have anxiety and depression.

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@haleysmom

Hello. I'm a brand new member. I am on 2 different meds for depression, and anxiety. I see my doctor in two weeks. I am going to talk to her about getting off these meds I've been on for one year. I read so many of the replys and I'm very nervous. I was going through alot when I was originally placed on these meds. I believe that they definitely saved me, but I'm hoping I no longer need them. I will keep you posted. I'm happy I found this group.

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@haleysmom I will be interested to hear what your doctor advises. These drugs can be wonderful but they can also be horrible from what I am reading on here.
JK

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@coloradogirl

So, I just finished this process with Zoloft (sertraline) and here are some things that worked for me. Your mileage may vary, but hopefully these are low risk for you to try.

1) You may need to ask your doctor for a slower tapering program than other patients. Some people are just more sensitive to dosage changes. Be aware that symptoms will get better, then may reappear each time you taper. AAFMA (practice group of family physicians) says that the symptoms typically last 1-2 weeks and as long as 4 weeks, so I just kept reminding myself that it was temporary.
2) Be watchful for things that make your symptoms worse. For example, caffeine seems to trigger the brain zaps for me (still, even after being off for several weeks), so I cut back my caffeine intake. I didn't give it up completely (because I still need to function), but cut back on how much real coffee I was drinking, mixed decaf with regular, and switched to tea sometimes. In the end, I probably cut my daily caffeine intake in half, and it did help quite a lot.
3) Ibuprofen or other pain reliever can help with the flu-like body aches.
4) Benadryl helped with the brain zaps.
5) Exercise helped with both. Even if I wasn't up to a run, a few blocks of walking would settle down the symptoms for a while at least. (Then, when they come back, just take another walk. We took a lot of walks for a while there).
6) Get enough sleep. As I came down off the meds, my normal sleeping patterns returned, which was great, but it did mean that I needed to plan time to let my body rest.
7) Pay attention to your diet. Your brain uses carbs to make seratonin, so now is not the time to go on the Atkins diet. Eat well and make sure you're getting enough healthy carbs. You may crave sweets; I certainly did. I tried to counteract this by having bananas, graham crackers, and other healthy things I could snack on instead of sticking my head in a birthday cake like I seemed to want.

No lie - it's a painful process, but this did really help make it easier. Also, at a certain point, when I was down the below the normal starter dose, I just ripped off the bandaid and went to zero. At that point, it felt like each taper was just prolonging the suffering. Don't just go cold turkey from your current dose, though, as that can be dangerous. Also, don't add any supplements or substitutes for the SSRI without talking to your doctor first (also dangerous).

And of course, watch for the return of depression / anxiety type symptoms. For a while it was hard to tell whether I was tired because of the change in meds or because my depression was returning. I figured as long as I felt okay enough to function and wasn't thinking about being harmful to myself or anyone else, I could play it out and see. It turned out to be the meds and on the other side, I can see that I was more worried about it than I needed to be.

I wish you the best of luck and a healthy life.

Mardee

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I, too, have been on Effexor for over twelve years. My question to you, did you have problems concentrating, did you have a Don’t Care Attitude and was it very hard for you to get motivated and enjoy life before coming off? I have an appointment with my mental health doctor next week. We talked about me coming off and maybe trying Trintellix at my last appointment.
I so want my life back. I’m taking Effexor, Buspar and Wellbutrin and more depressed than ever.

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@jakedduck1

@taylorwatkins13

Your name rings a bell, I might have replied to you. I looked back but didn’t find your post. I’ll have to make a more intense look later.
I too was depressed, at least that’s what my doctor said. I always had a handle on my emotions but while reading a letter I started to cry and cry again while watching a sad movie. First let me say I understand people are unique and some need alternative therapies. I was criticized for saying this in the past but I sincerely believe it to be true so here goes. A UPS man delivered a package to me and we were talking about depression. His son was depressed. He told his son “You have a choice, you can be happy or sad, it’s up to you.” I truly believe that’s true. I thought hard about that and stopped my medication. I feel you need to believe in yourself and have confidence. I feel when you dwell on yourself you’re going to be miserable and/or unhappy. When I developed Epilepsy which was very severe from day one I didn’t have my emotions in order and had a nervous breakdown. I kicked holes in nearly all doors in the house, painted my bedroom black, threw my TV out my bedroom window and it only got worse from there. I was a raving lunatic. My parents took me to a couple Psychiatrists but nothing helped until my Dad got fed up. After he fixed all the doors the window, helped me repaint my room and even bought me a new TV which I certainly didn’t deserve. Then he sat me down (Probably not to gently either) and told me “How the Cow ate the Cabbage.” Maybe your family needs to tell you “How the Cow ate the Cabbage.”
Were you once social and withdrew from that? Were you always depressed? You must know why it’s hard to make it threw the day. Maybe you do need to see a doctor. You might need medication to get over the hump but don’t keep taking it and using it as a crutch. Your going to have to face your problems. You have no choice about that if you ever expect to regain true happiness. Remember, you only get out of life what you’re willing to put into it. Don’t be afraid to ask God for help, “With Him all things are Possible.” I’m sure you know how to be happy and I have faith that you’ll succeed. Please keep us informed.
Wishing you the best health and happiness ever!!!

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Sometimes the depression is due to a chemical imbalance, which may need medication or maybe it's more than one reason... Don't stop until you figure it out. If I didn't think I could "not be depressed" without the medication, I would stay on the meds. It's not the worst thing in the world to be on meds or to admit that you may need them... Good luck to you!

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@jakedduck1

@taylorwatkins13

Your name rings a bell, I might have replied to you. I looked back but didn’t find your post. I’ll have to make a more intense look later.
I too was depressed, at least that’s what my doctor said. I always had a handle on my emotions but while reading a letter I started to cry and cry again while watching a sad movie. First let me say I understand people are unique and some need alternative therapies. I was criticized for saying this in the past but I sincerely believe it to be true so here goes. A UPS man delivered a package to me and we were talking about depression. His son was depressed. He told his son “You have a choice, you can be happy or sad, it’s up to you.” I truly believe that’s true. I thought hard about that and stopped my medication. I feel you need to believe in yourself and have confidence. I feel when you dwell on yourself you’re going to be miserable and/or unhappy. When I developed Epilepsy which was very severe from day one I didn’t have my emotions in order and had a nervous breakdown. I kicked holes in nearly all doors in the house, painted my bedroom black, threw my TV out my bedroom window and it only got worse from there. I was a raving lunatic. My parents took me to a couple Psychiatrists but nothing helped until my Dad got fed up. After he fixed all the doors the window, helped me repaint my room and even bought me a new TV which I certainly didn’t deserve. Then he sat me down (Probably not to gently either) and told me “How the Cow ate the Cabbage.” Maybe your family needs to tell you “How the Cow ate the Cabbage.”
Were you once social and withdrew from that? Were you always depressed? You must know why it’s hard to make it threw the day. Maybe you do need to see a doctor. You might need medication to get over the hump but don’t keep taking it and using it as a crutch. Your going to have to face your problems. You have no choice about that if you ever expect to regain true happiness. Remember, you only get out of life what you’re willing to put into it. Don’t be afraid to ask God for help, “With Him all things are Possible.” I’m sure you know how to be happy and I have faith that you’ll succeed. Please keep us informed.
Wishing you the best health and happiness ever!!!

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@terri672 thanks. The person who is very dear to me about whom I am concerned I believe feels he cannot not be on the meds, and perhaps that is true.
JK

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@taylorwatkins13

Glad to hear your going to the doctor but you'll have to honest and forthright with them to get the help you need.
Good luck
Jake

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@haleysmom

Hello. I'm a brand new member. I am on 2 different meds for depression, and anxiety. I see my doctor in two weeks. I am going to talk to her about getting off these meds I've been on for one year. I read so many of the replys and I'm very nervous. I was going through alot when I was originally placed on these meds. I believe that they definitely saved me, but I'm hoping I no longer need them. I will keep you posted. I'm happy I found this group.

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@contentandwell I'm so nervous about getting off. I feel like I'm ready, but I can't help to feel that it's all the meds and if I get off, I'll go right back to that dark hole. I want to get off. The other med is Latuda. I'm normally 120. I eat healthy and go to the gym and do cardio like crazy but I can't lose. I'm 140 now and no matter what I do I can't get rid of it. I think it's the meds. Anyone else suffer weight gain

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@haleysmom
I am paying attention. I can feel how sincere you are.
My last dose was march 14th. I spent the last year circling hell trying to get off it. I am successful!
Questions only you can answer. 1. What is different now from then, pre drug 2. What are your plans to cope with the withdrawal symptoms? What are your plans to cope on harder days? 3. What extra fun are you planning to do each day as you come off it? Fun is necessary to give yourself extra endorphins. The good brain chemicals. Haley will need them too.
5. Share with us the image you have of yourself off the drug. The better, more vivid you can see yourself, the NEW YOU, the better chance you have of reaching the goal of getting off the drug.
Click on my name and read every post I wrote. Starting at the beginning. Why, cuz it will tell you the way to not do it! Also there are many healing tricks in those posts. Write down those tips and tricks. Look at them often.
I wish you well. Stay posted here. We all care cuz we are folks helping folks here.
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Checking in: apologies for my absence. I am brimming with things to tell you. However, my brain is being intensively healing from the sacred plant medicine. Too much to say now. Click on my name, read posts in DID. Rejoice with me. I asked for rewiring...it is happening. Exhausted, Bright Wings. The photos are of the eciplse in Kenya a couple of hours ago. This was sent by my son

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