New member looking for advice on doctors and navigating illness

Posted by lisa3fam @lisa3fam, Jan 9 8:20am

I was very happy to find this group a few months ago. I found a lot of helpful posts and now it’s time for a question.

I was diagnosed with asthma in my 20s. I’m 54 now. Since August of 2023, I’ve had a cough with yellow mucus and shortness of breath. I was given a round of prednisone and 2 rounds of antibiotics. Cough continued and the fun began.

Asthma, allergy, sinus, GERD work ups. GERD was the prevailing diagnosis but continue cough with mucus after 2 months of 80mg omeprazole. Next, lungs…PFT shows obstruction. CT scan in Sept 2024 showed findings consistent with MAC - bilateral bronchitis, bronchial wall thickening, bronchiectasis, bronchiolitis. Negative cultures for MAC. Negative aspergillus. Still coughing with yellow mucus. I went strong on airway clearance and good aerobic exercise. Repeat CT in December showed some improvement in bronchitis and bronchiolitis and I reinflated my lung. Go me!! After following up with doc and seeing these improvements, he has now suggested I have bronchiolitis obliterans. This came from a discussion with more senior colleague. I was a little surprised after reading about it. I smoked in college for 3 years and have never worked with or around chemicals. I know lung diseases are hard to diagnose but I’m starting to question things. Doc seems hesitant to do bronchoscopy or lung biopsy, and I’m not too excited about them either. He has scheduled a repeat PFT for April to see if there’s progression. I’m at a crossroads. Should I seek another opinion or perhaps go to one of the university pulmonary clinics here in NC? I’m doing okay. I do have shortness of breath and still coughing yellow to dark yellow mucus but can manage good exercise. I’m concerned about progression now and don’t want to go another year without a diagnosis and plan. Any advice?

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@sweethighland

Was your surgery at NJH?

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Yes. They referred me to Dr John Mitchell at University of Colorado Hospital. He's the expert and I received terrific care there.

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@camper16

Yes. They referred me to Dr John Mitchell at University of Colorado Hospital. He's the expert and I received terrific care there.

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Thank you. I believe you are cured and free from the disease. Stay warm!

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@sueinmn

I am curious about whether the CT scans and bronchoscope showed any evidence other lung damage or infection? If so, it is quite possibly time to seek out a pulmonologist knowledgeable in treating bronchiectasis, aspergillus and the other infections you may be prone to.

In addition to nebbing as needed, airway clearance I one of the pillars of staying healthy when you have bronchiectasis. The fact that they haven't started you on airway clearance suggests your current docs are maybe not so familiar with it - not surprising because in spite of all the discussion here, it is a quite rare disease and often goes unrecognized for years.

I'm glad you are feeling a little better. Have you also been told you have MAC, MAI or pseudomonas?

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Hi Sue,

Thank you for your generous time and questions! I have been quite ill over the past few weeks with a flu bug and was feeling quite depressed because I wasn't sure if my symptoms were permanent due to bronchiectasis or temporary due to the flu. Luckily, the worst of it was cleared up with azithromycin. But I now realize that bronchiectasis makes flu symptoms so much worse! I need to protect myself, so I've been wearing a mask when visiting my grandkids, which makes me sad because they can't see me smile.

My most recent CT scan showed improvement based on the aspergillus medications, but the tree-in-bud nodules (I think these are hallmarks of bronchiectasis?) were unchanged. There was a new area of consolidation in my lung but they think that was due to this recent exacerbation.

So far, no one has said that I have MAC, MAI, or pseudomonas. Would a blood test reveal those conditions? What symptoms should I be on the lookout for, and what can I do to protect myself from these additional issues?

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@lisa3fam

Hi. I agree there are a lot of courageous people on here, and I think you’re one of them.

You’re not a wimp. It’s normal to be scared. It sounds like you’re forging ahead in spite of it all and are evidently a strong person given all that you’ve been through. Not to mention, you’re seeking help and I think that is very brave.

Since I’m new to all this too, I think others might have more helpful responses, but I’ll add my 2 cents.

My local pulmonologist has me on albuterol sulfate 2.5 mg. I think an allergy test could be helpful. I have had mixed results with these tests. I took my first one probably more than 10 years ago and came up with all sorts of allergies. It was a scratch test. The one I took last year when I started out on this journey showed absolutely no allergies. I did both scratch and blood. Take that for what it’s worth. There may be other tests out there that are more informative/reliable.

Good luck as you go forward, and I hope you continue to see improvements and keep exacerbations at bay.

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Hi Lisa,

Thank you for your reply! I'm sorry to hear that you are a new member here -- I guess that means you've been recently diagnosed. I'm so thankful to have others like you that I can travel on this journey with! If you're willing to share, I'd love to hear your story.

I apologize for the delay in response. I picked up a flu from my granddaughter and it hit me hard. Luckily azithromycin was able to kick the infection that developed in my lungs. This helped me to realize that I need to protect myself from these potential infections. I've now been wearing a mask around my grandkids, which makes me sad because they can't see me smile.

I appreciate you sharing the details of the allergy tests you took. Do you also have asthma or other conditions along with your bronchiectasis?

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@schoolgirl

Hi Sue,

Thank you for your generous time and questions! I have been quite ill over the past few weeks with a flu bug and was feeling quite depressed because I wasn't sure if my symptoms were permanent due to bronchiectasis or temporary due to the flu. Luckily, the worst of it was cleared up with azithromycin. But I now realize that bronchiectasis makes flu symptoms so much worse! I need to protect myself, so I've been wearing a mask when visiting my grandkids, which makes me sad because they can't see me smile.

My most recent CT scan showed improvement based on the aspergillus medications, but the tree-in-bud nodules (I think these are hallmarks of bronchiectasis?) were unchanged. There was a new area of consolidation in my lung but they think that was due to this recent exacerbation.

So far, no one has said that I have MAC, MAI, or pseudomonas. Would a blood test reveal those conditions? What symptoms should I be on the lookout for, and what can I do to protect myself from these additional issues?

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The two methods of diagnosing MAC, NTM, pseudomonas and other infections are a sputum culture, where you cough up mucus, spit I into cups (preferably on 3 different days) or a bronchoscopy (more invasive procedure.)

In either case, the specimen is grown in a lab for 7-14 days, and if infectious agents are identified, is is grown for 4-8 more weeks to determine exactly what the infectious agent is, and what drug can treat it.

Now it I time to see a pulmonologist who specializes in treating MAC and Bronchiectasis, to determine whether you have an ongoing infection and, more important, tomset you up with a treatment plan to help keep you as healthy as possible.

Let's start with this information about Bronchiectasis, and then please ask any questions you have:
https://www.bronchiectasisandntminitiative.org/Learn-More/I-am-a-Patient-or-Caregiver/Diagnostic-Testing-and-Evaluation

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@schoolgirl

Hi Lisa,

Thank you for your reply! I'm sorry to hear that you are a new member here -- I guess that means you've been recently diagnosed. I'm so thankful to have others like you that I can travel on this journey with! If you're willing to share, I'd love to hear your story.

I apologize for the delay in response. I picked up a flu from my granddaughter and it hit me hard. Luckily azithromycin was able to kick the infection that developed in my lungs. This helped me to realize that I need to protect myself from these potential infections. I've now been wearing a mask around my grandkids, which makes me sad because they can't see me smile.

I appreciate you sharing the details of the allergy tests you took. Do you also have asthma or other conditions along with your bronchiectasis?

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I’m sorry you had the flu but glad you were able to kick it. It can be difficult to mask around your loved ones. I still haven’t found a diagnosis. I’ve had a productive cough and SOB for over a year and a half now. My pulmonologist now thinks I may have bronchiolitis obliterans and/or COPD. The problem is that I have aspects of multiple categories and don’t fit neatly into one category. I’m 54, not a smoker, I eat right, don’t drink a lot. I haven’t been exposed to any longterm chemicals or other things that would affect my lungs. I don’t have MAC or Aspergilliosis. I’m otherwise a healthy person aside from having osteoporosis and these lung issues. I’m having another PFT in April to see if I still show obstruction. I was diagnosed with asthma in my 20s but he thinks I may not actually have asthma. My latest CT scan showed little to no bronchiectasis, improved bronchitis and improved atelectasis; bronchial wall thickening and micronodular peribronchial infiltrates. I didn’t know bronchiectasis could improve. My doctor didn’t tell me that when I had my first CT, and I asked if I could reverse it. From what I understand now, there can be bronchiectasis without permanent damage so improvement is possible. I’m not sure now if I even belong on this forum. I haven’t had a bronchoscopy because he doesn’t believe he’ll be able to see anything conclusive since my issues appear to be in the small airways so he doesn’t want to put me through it. I’m crossing my fingers that this will all just go away.

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@lisa3fam

I’m sorry you had the flu but glad you were able to kick it. It can be difficult to mask around your loved ones. I still haven’t found a diagnosis. I’ve had a productive cough and SOB for over a year and a half now. My pulmonologist now thinks I may have bronchiolitis obliterans and/or COPD. The problem is that I have aspects of multiple categories and don’t fit neatly into one category. I’m 54, not a smoker, I eat right, don’t drink a lot. I haven’t been exposed to any longterm chemicals or other things that would affect my lungs. I don’t have MAC or Aspergilliosis. I’m otherwise a healthy person aside from having osteoporosis and these lung issues. I’m having another PFT in April to see if I still show obstruction. I was diagnosed with asthma in my 20s but he thinks I may not actually have asthma. My latest CT scan showed little to no bronchiectasis, improved bronchitis and improved atelectasis; bronchial wall thickening and micronodular peribronchial infiltrates. I didn’t know bronchiectasis could improve. My doctor didn’t tell me that when I had my first CT, and I asked if I could reverse it. From what I understand now, there can be bronchiectasis without permanent damage so improvement is possible. I’m not sure now if I even belong on this forum. I haven’t had a bronchoscopy because he doesn’t believe he’ll be able to see anything conclusive since my issues appear to be in the small airways so he doesn’t want to put me through it. I’m crossing my fingers that this will all just go away.

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I recently heard that GERD can actually continue despite the use of PPI's - they just relieve the symptoms but do not cure the reflux. I have not had the time to do the research, but if that is true, it would explain why your symptoms continue.
What other changes have you made to alleviate GERD?

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@sueinmn

I recently heard that GERD can actually continue despite the use of PPI's - they just relieve the symptoms but do not cure the reflux. I have not had the time to do the research, but if that is true, it would explain why your symptoms continue.
What other changes have you made to alleviate GERD?

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Could GERD explain it all? The only symptoms I have are chronic cough and SOB with wheezing. I don’t feel other symptoms, even those associated with LPR/silent reflux, such as lump in throat or difficulty swallowing. My gastroenterologist was hesitant to perform invasive testing since I didn’t respond to PPIs, don’t use antacids, and have these lung issues.
Generally, I eat small meals, avoid typical triggers, drink about 100 oz of water. I’m not overweight: 5’10”, 135 lbs. I sleep with a 7” gradual elevation from feet to head.

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@lisa3fam

Could GERD explain it all? The only symptoms I have are chronic cough and SOB with wheezing. I don’t feel other symptoms, even those associated with LPR/silent reflux, such as lump in throat or difficulty swallowing. My gastroenterologist was hesitant to perform invasive testing since I didn’t respond to PPIs, don’t use antacids, and have these lung issues.
Generally, I eat small meals, avoid typical triggers, drink about 100 oz of water. I’m not overweight: 5’10”, 135 lbs. I sleep with a 7” gradual elevation from feet to head.

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Not a medical professional, but in my opinion you need
to see someone who specializes in MAC bronchiectasis and can work with a team to reach a diagnosis

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@sueinmn

Not a medical professional, but in my opinion you need
to see someone who specializes in MAC bronchiectasis and can work with a team to reach a diagnosis

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Thanks, Sue. I very much appreciate what you have to say and your willingness to help.

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