Inconsiderate, intimidating neighbors cause depression and anxiety?

Posted by robertwills @robertwills, Oct 26 11:30am

Lets; say you have neighbors that sit outside your apartment building, smoke "weed" in public view (which is illegal) and use intimidating gestures towards you as you come and go. Could this be enough to cause legitimate depression and anxiety?

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Update: No people at all hanging out smoking weed and threatening residents in front of the apartment building for over a week! The people are still here. Something definitely happened. As noted above I believe the landlord gave a final warning. But I also now believe that the police may have had some kind of contact with the tenants and landlord.

My anxiety is better now. I still get anxious coming back to the apartment complex property but it's not nearly as bad as it was even a few days ago. I can't say for certain that this is over but when compared to what was going on I would say there is good chance that it is. I said before that it should be over by Christmas. Well, it looks like it might be by Thanksgiving! I will update again if anything changes.

I would like to share some of what I learned from this situation that may be helpful to someone else in a similar situation:

In general, the landlord of a rental property holds the power to stop and/or remove illegal behavior and the police have the authoritative information (the proof) to allow the landlord to exercise their power legally. This is a powerful, effective combination. So document and report each incident early on to both, request confidentiality and make sure the police give the landlord a copy of the reports.

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Update: No people at all hanging out smoking weed and threatening residents in front of the apartment building for over a week! The people are still here. Something definitely happened. As noted above I believe the landlord gave a final warning. But I also now believe that the police may have had some kind of contact with the tenants and landlord.

My anxiety is better now. I still get anxious coming back to the apartment complex property but it's not nearly as bad as it was even a few days ago. I can't say for certain that this is over but when compared to what was going on I would say there is good chance that it is. I said before that it should be over by Christmas. Well, it looks like it might be by Thanksgiving! I will update again if anything changes.

I would like to share some of what I learned from this situation that may be helpful to someone else in a similar situation:

In general, the landlord of a rental property holds the power to stop and/or remove illegal behavior and the police have the authoritative information (the proof) to allow the landlord to exercise their power legally. This is a powerful, effective combination. So document and report each incident early on to both, request confidentiality and make sure the police give the landlord a copy of the reports.

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Update: The nuisance and potential danger came back. Last night as I was coming back to apartment I had to pass by two of the men smoking "weed" right out in front of the building. The skunky smell was very strong. They didn't threaten me but they looked rough and mean. There's absolutely no saying a friendly "hello" to them.

I believe I was right the first time: These people are so persistent that they will need to be physically removed from the property by law enforcement if their behavior is to stop. This should happen by Christmas because I am almost positive that the landlord has given them a final warning. I also believe the police may be involved.

There are families who live in this building. I can't believe this is still happening here in this nice complex. There is a park near the building that the people could go to smoke and no one here would ever know. Why do they smoke directly in front of the apartment building where people live? These people are the laziest scum I have ever seen.

I will update again when anything noteworthy happens.

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@robertwills

Update: The nuisance and potential danger came back. Last night as I was coming back to apartment I had to pass by two of the men smoking "weed" right out in front of the building. The skunky smell was very strong. They didn't threaten me but they looked rough and mean. There's absolutely no saying a friendly "hello" to them.

I believe I was right the first time: These people are so persistent that they will need to be physically removed from the property by law enforcement if their behavior is to stop. This should happen by Christmas because I am almost positive that the landlord has given them a final warning. I also believe the police may be involved.

There are families who live in this building. I can't believe this is still happening here in this nice complex. There is a park near the building that the people could go to smoke and no one here would ever know. Why do they smoke directly in front of the apartment building where people live? These people are the laziest scum I have ever seen.

I will update again when anything noteworthy happens.

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@robertwills There could be a couple of reasons why they don’t go to the park to smoke their weed: a) It’s a public place where children play so police may have been involved by parents to remove them - easier to enforce since they don’t live there. b) they live in the building so they know there is more technicality involved in stopping them.

I hope things will be resolved by Christmas …

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@rashida

@robertwills There could be a couple of reasons why they don’t go to the park to smoke their weed: a) It’s a public place where children play so police may have been involved by parents to remove them - easier to enforce since they don’t live there. b) they live in the building so they know there is more technicality involved in stopping them.

I hope things will be resolved by Christmas …

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That could be but the park has many places were they can be in private. In fact all one would need to do is duck into the surrounding woods for a smoke. Of course they would have to walk back to the complex. These people are just plain lazy! Or now that I think about it, it's that they are also so defiant and inconsiderate. They are trying to make it their territory so they can do whatever they want, when they want. That's not going to happen here! As noted above they will need to be physically removed by law enforcement. I will update. Thank you for your good wishes!

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@robertwills

That could be but the park has many places were they can be in private. In fact all one would need to do is duck into the surrounding woods for a smoke. Of course they would have to walk back to the complex. These people are just plain lazy! Or now that I think about it, it's that they are also so defiant and inconsiderate. They are trying to make it their territory so they can do whatever they want, when they want. That's not going to happen here! As noted above they will need to be physically removed by law enforcement. I will update. Thank you for your good wishes!

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@robertwills it definitely is defiance - also more convenient to smoke on home turf, especially in bad weather. 😐

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@robertwills

That could be but the park has many places were they can be in private. In fact all one would need to do is duck into the surrounding woods for a smoke. Of course they would have to walk back to the complex. These people are just plain lazy! Or now that I think about it, it's that they are also so defiant and inconsiderate. They are trying to make it their territory so they can do whatever they want, when they want. That's not going to happen here! As noted above they will need to be physically removed by law enforcement. I will update. Thank you for your good wishes!

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Update: This holiday weekend was quiet but twice coming back to the apartment building the men were outside smoking weed. No threats though.

I can confirm that this situation has totally ruined my quality of life here. I spoke with someone about it who is a professional in the healthcare industry. They have lived in the city and surrounding area their whole lives. They say that it is very uncommon what is going on in this part of the city but they are aware of a similar situation that has happened before. They said it usually gets permanently stopped sooner than later, mostly because it's so out of place, a nuisance and potentially dangerous to residents.

So I'm at least hopeful this will be permanently over soon.

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Update: I literally woke up this morning and for the first time ever, I don't know where it came from, I had a biblical type of thought: "What kind of hell hath rained down upon me?".

The men are still out there smoking weed like never before and "carrying on" louder than before. This plus other difficult things currently in my life has really been a type of hell.

There will be a meeting with the landlord soon. I will update and let you know how it goes.

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@robertwills

Update: I literally woke up this morning and for the first time ever, I don't know where it came from, I had a biblical type of thought: "What kind of hell hath rained down upon me?".

The men are still out there smoking weed like never before and "carrying on" louder than before. This plus other difficult things currently in my life has really been a type of hell.

There will be a meeting with the landlord soon. I will update and let you know how it goes.

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Robert

I understand how you feel . We live with it too . We recently went to our Landlord and the upstairs tenants were given a lease violation . They like to party and we have to hear this well into the wee hours in the morning . I understand there young and this is probably their first place. However this crap heightens my anxiety as well . As a Christian I try my best to bite my tounge, however we are entitled to quiet hours as well . We live in a nice community. If they do not follow the lease violation they can be kicked out. When you feel this much Anxiety , read in the book of Psalms in the Bible . Hugs and prayers to you . 🙏

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@timber95

Robert

I understand how you feel . We live with it too . We recently went to our Landlord and the upstairs tenants were given a lease violation . They like to party and we have to hear this well into the wee hours in the morning . I understand there young and this is probably their first place. However this crap heightens my anxiety as well . As a Christian I try my best to bite my tounge, however we are entitled to quiet hours as well . We live in a nice community. If they do not follow the lease violation they can be kicked out. When you feel this much Anxiety , read in the book of Psalms in the Bible . Hugs and prayers to you . 🙏

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Thank you for your caring reply. The noise early in the morning when you are trying to sleep is a major disturbance that negatively can affect the quality of your life. My situation has the serious element of physical danger. The people here are menacing and will not give up. Their brazenness is out of this world. I have never nor heard of anything like it. Smoking illegal drugs, and threatening people, right in front of our nice building that people and families live in!

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Update: I sat down with the landlord today. They could not tell me details of what's taking place but they said they, and the police, are aware of the situation. They said they must ensure that all legal procedures are followed and this can take some time. But the good news is the problem will permanently end sooner than later. Thank goodness!

In the meantime I still can't relax until they are out. Physically getting them out will be interesting. They might go voluntarily but my guess, as I indicated in an earlier post, is that there may have to be some kind of law enforcement action to physically remove them.

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