Recent diagnosis: Have questions about treatment options?
I am getting diagnosed with pancreatic cancer after an abdominal CT last week. I’m 45 male, South Asian, and married with 8yo twins. I have a healthy lifestyle, run half marathons, and have no family history of cancer among my parents, grandparents or uncles/aunts. I’m still in denial. I started having back pain 1.5 months and abdomen pain 1 month back. The doctor prescribed an abdomen CT scan which found a mass on the pancreatic head 27mm * 24mm. By the time the diagnosis came out, I also developed jaundice (4.9 total bilirubin) although my bilirubin levels have always been elevated (in the range of 1.5 and 3 going back 11 years). They did an ERCP procedure to put in a stent in the bile duct and biopsy the mass. The biopsy results came back inconclusive.
The cancer marker (CA 19-9) measured 153 as of last week. So far, all doctors have said it’s cancer and most likely pancreatic cancer. It seems locally advanced from the CT and MRI. I’m shocked by the grim cure rate / survival rate.
I have seen two surgeons so far. The first surgeon at Univ of Pennsylvania says it’s borderline resectable —so he wants me to get up to 6 months of chemo before attempting surgery / Whipple procedure. The second surgeon at MSK (Memorial Sloan Kettering) ordered a repeat CT scan with focus on pancreas after which he feels comfortable that he can remove it right away and is asking me to go for surgery first.
I have a few questions and would really appreciate your help:
- Could this be anything else?
- Which approach sounds better for overall survival as well as short-term survival: Chemo first then surgery (U Penn) or surgery first (MSK)?
- MSK surgeon has given me surgery appointment for 3 weeks out which is his earliest available. Do you think it’s too risky to wait that long?
Thanks!
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Hi Colleen - I decided to go with Adjuvant (surgery first). I am scheduled in about a week. I am also hoping to enroll in a vaccine trial.
Do folks have any recommendation for vaccine trials? I hope I don't get assigned to the "Control" group. Have to figure out how that works.
Hi Carrie! Seems like radiation has worked for you so far. Do you monitor your CA19-9 levels and has it been under control?
Ah I see. But you don't think the ill effects of keeping tumor in there might outweigh the downside of delaying chemo by 2 months?
I got repeat blood work and my CA19-9 increased from 153 to 177 in 11 days, so that makes me think the tumor isn't as aggressive as what I have heard in some other cases.
Oh ok. Forgot you said you were able to have surgery very quickly at MSK. In that case I would do surgery then chemo after. It's a tough decision. I would get multiple recommendations and move rapidly either way.
Hi Mrajat,
My CA19-9 only gets monitored every 3 months. No, it's not under control completely; in June this year 2024 it was 102; in August, 61 after the radiation in July; in November, 61. Waiting for February. The highest I ever had before the Whipple was 153, which seems mild compared to others I read. Thanks for asking, Carrie
Hi Mark! Do you know if the three tests you recommended (NGS, sensitivity test and ctDNA) are done on the actual tumor or on a small sample of it?
I had my presurgical visit today. The surgeon said they can do these, but I didn't get a lot of time to go into the details. Then later the research team said that they send the entire tumor for vaccine development. So I have to circle back and figure out how it's all going to pan out.
I also learnt that they hold out a control group that will not receive the vaccine and I am not too thrilled about the possibility of falling into the control group 🙁
Let me know if you have any suggestions.
I would strongly advocate for chemo after surgery or a well documented clinical trial. I too had clear margins and lymph nodes but it did read its head again.
So very glad I did chemo afterwards and continued into a clinical trial before my chemo was exhausted.
Hi Mary! What clinical trial did you get in? Was it Phase 1 or Phase 2? The vaccine trial at MSK is currently in Phase 2 and there is a 33% control sample (no vaccine). Trying to see if there is a sureshot way to get the vaccine.
Thanks!
I am in a phase 1b trial. My cancer was too far advanced for vaccine. Although, if this trial has me declared NED I certainly would hope for the vaccine at phase 3. I’m not quite there yet
Have your surgery, hope for clear margins, and then make your decisions. You won’t be able to do anything for a bit post surgery while your body recovers. God’s blessings to you! Stay strong!!
Hello,
I got the CT Scan diagnosed as Pancreatic Cancer in Aug 2024. Immediately went to MSK in Westchester to get another scan. My surgeon at MSK is Dr Soares and he suggested 3 months of chemo first and then Whipple.
I just finished the chemo and after another scan my cancer has shrunk from 1.1mm to just .4mm. I am scheduled to meet with Dr. Soares in a week to see what are the next steps. I hope surgery followed by 3 more months of chemo. Good luck with your decision about what your next steps are as this whole journey is scary!