Blueprint to Neuropathy?

Posted by hossie @hossie, Apr 22 2:03pm

Has anyone tried Blueprint to Nueropathy? Apparently it is a treatment approach that is being used by many chiropractors. It's long in duration and not cheap. I am not looking for a silver bullet, just some improvement in my feet. Thanks.

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@johnbishop

Welcome Bob4hounds1855 @rnitkewicz1855, It's good to hear you are doing your research as you are your best advocate when it comes to your healthcare. You might find the following discussion and sites helpful for evaluating information:

Quazar's guidance about avoiding scams and snake oil cures
-- https://connect.mayoclinic.org/discussion/how-to-avoid-quacks-and-snake-oil-treatments/

FDA's Health Fraud Page
-- https://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/ProtectYourself/HealthFraud/ucm539101.htm

NIH's National Center for Complementary and Integrative Health (NCCIH) which offers guidance about integrative health and how to evaluate it.
-- https://nccih.nih.gov/health/decisions
-- https://www.nccih.nih.gov/health/pain

Have you been diagnosed with neuropathy?

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I have had neuropathy since 2014. been there, done most. found that if I kept my blood circulation good in my feet (blood booster for nitric oxcide) and used basically topical solutions to resolve some discomfort. I am class 3b in kidney disease due to the diabetes so most oral medications are out. If you can take the smell, the creams that have capzasin in them, used regularly for 1 to 2 weeks helps build up relief. I used on 2x a day for 3 days and had some relief for a week. but I have allergies and I cannot take the capzasin. My alternative medicine woman said that it does more as you use it longer. Try it, my kidney doctor only allows topical solutions. I'm good at creating my own. I don't buy the the advertized expensive ones, I find out what's in them, research it and if applicable, order from amazon. then put in Walmart's lidocane cream or other substitute. You have to "manage" yourself. whatever is comfortable. I have even put 3" of foam to the bottom of my feet. (rubber bands ) what ever works. Old wives tales sometime. help or are a starting point. Good luck. sharon

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@andyjustin

I also went to blend therapy at an eight chiropractic treatment centers. I believe the supplements are very good as far as chiropractic. I am now with another chiropractor who practices the Cox method which I believe is much more effective. It’s a shame you can’t get the blueprint supplements without going through a chiropractor, I guess everybody’s gotta make a buck. I am still taking the supplements following some of the protocols, but I truly believe exercise diet and a positive attitude are Beneficial, but don’t really slow down the progression. The only thing I really read that might help and I am using is a high dose of testosterone. Apparently it does help and repairing the. Mylin But it’s certainly not an even thing like a cure

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Yes, everybody has to make a buck...but, where do you draw the line? $9000 to $12,000 for supplements and some chiropractor visits. That's simply outrageous. Sorry, but these guys aren't getting my money.

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@johnbishop

@hossie, I've heard a few members mention it in older discussions but I don't think I've seen any evidence-based studies about their treatment protocol. Similarly, there were no results in the research database on PubMed https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/. Their original website is no longer active (http://blueprinttoneuropathy.net/) and I think this is the new one but it also has no evidence-based studies about their protocol other than their claims on the website here - https://blueprintnutrition.com/education/neuropathy/.

There are a lot of supplements that have research and studies supporting their use all of which I've seen listed here on the Foundation for Peripheral Neuropathy's website in the Complementary and Alternative Treatments document - https://www.foundationforpn.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Complementary-and-Alternative-Treatments-Revised-2020-final.-1.pdf.

Early on I looked into treatment at a neuropathy clinic and decided against it because it was a lot of money over many treatments with no guarantees. That and I could find no evidence-based studies that it might work or help. I would proceed with caution. Ask questions, hard questions about scientific evidence before paying loads of money.

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My husband tried the Blueprint to Neuropathy program. It was very expensive, about the price of a used car. The people we talked to there had great success. He decided to do it because it was to the point of him not being able to travel much. He was 68 when he started it. A lot of supplements, a vibrator machine to stand on, a unit similar to a 10's unit only used in water, and something with lights that went around his feet and legs. He faithfully went 2 times a week for I believe it was 9 months. By the end of the program, it actually worked. It is now Nov 10, 2024 and he is still pain free. Now he is having slight problems with disc in his back.

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@xstitcher3277

My husband tried the Blueprint to Neuropathy program. It was very expensive, about the price of a used car. The people we talked to there had great success. He decided to do it because it was to the point of him not being able to travel much. He was 68 when he started it. A lot of supplements, a vibrator machine to stand on, a unit similar to a 10's unit only used in water, and something with lights that went around his feet and legs. He faithfully went 2 times a week for I believe it was 9 months. By the end of the program, it actually worked. It is now Nov 10, 2024 and he is still pain free. Now he is having slight problems with disc in his back.

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Welcome @xstitcher3277, It's great to hear that the program worked for your husband. Do you mind sharing a little more about his neuropathy symptoms and another treatments he tried?

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Thanks for this info. I just had another Chiropractor try to "sell" me Blueprint to Neuropathy." I was suspicious so I researched it. Their internal training video is on youtube, search for blueprint to neuropathy. It's focused on making more money and spending less time with patients. There's little patient care in the video. The Chiropractor proposed a program for $9995 for a 3 month program. WOW! And the usual sales practices (wife must be there, pay now for a discount, etc. I want to report this ti the dept of health or the local tv station.

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@hossie

This treatment is not just supplements. It involves a sort of tens unit that produces electrical currents underwater while soaking feet. It also includes wearing an anodyne sort of shoe, doing both of these twice a day. It also includes some chiropractic treatment for a lower back. (I have had several laminectomies in lumbar and cervical area.) And if you go on the website for this particular chiropractor, or others that use the same combination of treatments, there are lots of very positive testimonials. I am not sure if I will try it or not.

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I followed it to the letter with zero results. I lost 30 pounds, but I didn't spend 10K on a weight-loss program. Yes, there are the boots that you strap into & the foot soaking for 30 minutes each, twice per day, the very strict diet, and the chiropractic appointments that are literally just regular chiropractic adjustments (there was one doc that would focus on my feet during the adjustment but I only saw her when my regular doc wasn't available) with the addition of a vibration plate therapy, involving standing on a vibration plate for 10 minutes at the end of each appointment. The doc recommended that I get a vibration plate from amazon for my home and add that to my therapies once a day & I did that too. Not a huge deal but it was an additional cost of about $150.
In addition to the upfront cost of 10K, you get to buy more of those containers as you run out. Between the foot gel at $40-50/bottle & the other supplements that I had to replenish, I think it averaged another $150/month. I think that only the first 3-6 months of chiropractic appointments were included as well so I had to pay for the adjustments after that because he didn't take insurance.
He was convincing though. Played on my fears, for sure. Even had a lady come give us a testimonial about her husband that had only been on the program for 4 weeks and she had noticed that he is walking better already. The doctor even took a picture of my feet with a special camera in the first appointment and showed me that my symptoms were fairly severe. Then, he did check-ins where he would re-do the baseline testing about every 4 weeks. After several months, it was time to re-take the special camera photo of my feet, which, to be honest, was what I was looking forward to as I began to wonder if maybe there was improvement but it was too slight for me to notice & I would be encouraged by the new photo to stay the course. I wanted to believe in the program but was still skeptical because the therapies are a bit unusual. That photo, however, was a measure that I could actually see. I wanted to see that it was different from or the same as the first photo taken. Wouldn't you know the doctor took the photo, looked at it (never showed it to me) & proceeded to try to gaslight me to believe that my lack of progress was my fault. He told me that most of his neuropathy patients are retired seniors with nothing better to do than these therapies twice a day & watch their diet strictly. He said that I must not have followed it exactly and that is why I was not having success. I was raging on the inside, but calmly informed him that I got up at 4:30am every morning without fail to do these therapies and that I'm 30 pounds lighter as evidence that I'm doing the program. He could check that I was in his office for every scheduled appointment. I didn't just throw away 10K. I actually left his office & never returned after that.
I mentioned that the therapies are unusual. In addition to the quirky water/electrical stimulation therapy & the boot/red light therapy, the book that I followed instructed me, at one point, to stand barefoot outside in nature.
It was, overall, a bit too hokey for me but feel free to give it a try if you believe that the source of your neuropathy is your gut. I have just learned (yesterday, in fact) that the cause of my PN is long-term use of PPIs for acid reflux. There may be some correlation but I don't see it myself. Just thought I'd provide the info I had so you can make an informed decision.

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@fairymystry

I followed it to the letter with zero results. I lost 30 pounds, but I didn't spend 10K on a weight-loss program. Yes, there are the boots that you strap into & the foot soaking for 30 minutes each, twice per day, the very strict diet, and the chiropractic appointments that are literally just regular chiropractic adjustments (there was one doc that would focus on my feet during the adjustment but I only saw her when my regular doc wasn't available) with the addition of a vibration plate therapy, involving standing on a vibration plate for 10 minutes at the end of each appointment. The doc recommended that I get a vibration plate from amazon for my home and add that to my therapies once a day & I did that too. Not a huge deal but it was an additional cost of about $150.
In addition to the upfront cost of 10K, you get to buy more of those containers as you run out. Between the foot gel at $40-50/bottle & the other supplements that I had to replenish, I think it averaged another $150/month. I think that only the first 3-6 months of chiropractic appointments were included as well so I had to pay for the adjustments after that because he didn't take insurance.
He was convincing though. Played on my fears, for sure. Even had a lady come give us a testimonial about her husband that had only been on the program for 4 weeks and she had noticed that he is walking better already. The doctor even took a picture of my feet with a special camera in the first appointment and showed me that my symptoms were fairly severe. Then, he did check-ins where he would re-do the baseline testing about every 4 weeks. After several months, it was time to re-take the special camera photo of my feet, which, to be honest, was what I was looking forward to as I began to wonder if maybe there was improvement but it was too slight for me to notice & I would be encouraged by the new photo to stay the course. I wanted to believe in the program but was still skeptical because the therapies are a bit unusual. That photo, however, was a measure that I could actually see. I wanted to see that it was different from or the same as the first photo taken. Wouldn't you know the doctor took the photo, looked at it (never showed it to me) & proceeded to try to gaslight me to believe that my lack of progress was my fault. He told me that most of his neuropathy patients are retired seniors with nothing better to do than these therapies twice a day & watch their diet strictly. He said that I must not have followed it exactly and that is why I was not having success. I was raging on the inside, but calmly informed him that I got up at 4:30am every morning without fail to do these therapies and that I'm 30 pounds lighter as evidence that I'm doing the program. He could check that I was in his office for every scheduled appointment. I didn't just throw away 10K. I actually left his office & never returned after that.
I mentioned that the therapies are unusual. In addition to the quirky water/electrical stimulation therapy & the boot/red light therapy, the book that I followed instructed me, at one point, to stand barefoot outside in nature.
It was, overall, a bit too hokey for me but feel free to give it a try if you believe that the source of your neuropathy is your gut. I have just learned (yesterday, in fact) that the cause of my PN is long-term use of PPIs for acid reflux. There may be some correlation but I don't see it myself. Just thought I'd provide the info I had so you can make an informed decision.

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That’s shocking!

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@fairymystry

I followed it to the letter with zero results. I lost 30 pounds, but I didn't spend 10K on a weight-loss program. Yes, there are the boots that you strap into & the foot soaking for 30 minutes each, twice per day, the very strict diet, and the chiropractic appointments that are literally just regular chiropractic adjustments (there was one doc that would focus on my feet during the adjustment but I only saw her when my regular doc wasn't available) with the addition of a vibration plate therapy, involving standing on a vibration plate for 10 minutes at the end of each appointment. The doc recommended that I get a vibration plate from amazon for my home and add that to my therapies once a day & I did that too. Not a huge deal but it was an additional cost of about $150.
In addition to the upfront cost of 10K, you get to buy more of those containers as you run out. Between the foot gel at $40-50/bottle & the other supplements that I had to replenish, I think it averaged another $150/month. I think that only the first 3-6 months of chiropractic appointments were included as well so I had to pay for the adjustments after that because he didn't take insurance.
He was convincing though. Played on my fears, for sure. Even had a lady come give us a testimonial about her husband that had only been on the program for 4 weeks and she had noticed that he is walking better already. The doctor even took a picture of my feet with a special camera in the first appointment and showed me that my symptoms were fairly severe. Then, he did check-ins where he would re-do the baseline testing about every 4 weeks. After several months, it was time to re-take the special camera photo of my feet, which, to be honest, was what I was looking forward to as I began to wonder if maybe there was improvement but it was too slight for me to notice & I would be encouraged by the new photo to stay the course. I wanted to believe in the program but was still skeptical because the therapies are a bit unusual. That photo, however, was a measure that I could actually see. I wanted to see that it was different from or the same as the first photo taken. Wouldn't you know the doctor took the photo, looked at it (never showed it to me) & proceeded to try to gaslight me to believe that my lack of progress was my fault. He told me that most of his neuropathy patients are retired seniors with nothing better to do than these therapies twice a day & watch their diet strictly. He said that I must not have followed it exactly and that is why I was not having success. I was raging on the inside, but calmly informed him that I got up at 4:30am every morning without fail to do these therapies and that I'm 30 pounds lighter as evidence that I'm doing the program. He could check that I was in his office for every scheduled appointment. I didn't just throw away 10K. I actually left his office & never returned after that.
I mentioned that the therapies are unusual. In addition to the quirky water/electrical stimulation therapy & the boot/red light therapy, the book that I followed instructed me, at one point, to stand barefoot outside in nature.
It was, overall, a bit too hokey for me but feel free to give it a try if you believe that the source of your neuropathy is your gut. I have just learned (yesterday, in fact) that the cause of my PN is long-term use of PPIs for acid reflux. There may be some correlation but I don't see it myself. Just thought I'd provide the info I had so you can make an informed decision.

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Those of us with severe PN will tend to grasp at any straw floating by that MIGHT help us. That's why there are so many of these scam artists/products out there willing to gladly take our money(notice that there is never a "money back" option). There are no miracle cures for neuropathy. Just meds or medical devices like spinal cord stimulators that may reduce our pain. Please folks, don't fall for these scams! Do research into every one. You will find the truth if you do your due diligence. I've been there.

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@boydsy

Thanks for this info. I just had another Chiropractor try to "sell" me Blueprint to Neuropathy." I was suspicious so I researched it. Their internal training video is on youtube, search for blueprint to neuropathy. It's focused on making more money and spending less time with patients. There's little patient care in the video. The Chiropractor proposed a program for $9995 for a 3 month program. WOW! And the usual sales practices (wife must be there, pay now for a discount, etc. I want to report this ti the dept of health or the local tv station.

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Report them to the Better Business Bureau.

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Pn yea only thing that's helped me is the compression boots once during the day and 45 mons b 4 bed helps circulation and eases the next day but as we all know once your out of the house your on your own these can now be Boughton line for around 80 pounds paid twice that 3 years ago I believe that we all find something that helps a bit but most of the creams n stuff and massaging units are from snake oil salesmen James Ireland

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