Strontium citrate (Algaecal) and fractures

Posted by pami @pami, Apr 15 7:54am

I am looking to see if there are any studies done that show a reduced chance of fracture from using Strontium citrate (Algaecal) as opposed to calcium. Everything I have read only mentions increase of density using it. Does anyone have doctor input or a study showing an decrease in bone fractures?

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@nene78

Thank you for your reply. I have read that there is a ten year time limit for taking the metal based strontium. Would this hold true gor strontium from algae? It is interesting to note vitamin label does not label strontium as a citrate but as a organic algae

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All strontium is metal-based, the algae or whatever absorbs it, but that doesn't change what it is. The same is true for other substances like zinc -it doesn't matter if you get it from food or a supplement, the element is the same.

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@pami

That is interesting. The labeling is a little misleading. It makes me think that Strontium is a natural Calcium but it is not Calcium. I do want to research this out more. People that live on Okinawa are healthier longer. Even in their 90's they are active and healthy. They eat a lot of fish and I wonder about seaweed/algae that is filled with tiny marine animals and shells. Interesting.!

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I will be calling vitamin company to see if it’s truly from organic algae or a metal. I know it does come from a metal but that is a different strontium(I think).

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@nene78

I will be calling vitamin company to see if it’s truly from organic algae or a metal. I know it does come from a metal but that is a different strontium(I think).

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@nene78 I'm about as far from an expert as possible in chemistry but a simple lookup will tell you that strontium is a metal. You may want to get it from algae which has absorbed it rather than from a chunk of rock but it is still a metal.
From Wikipedia: " An alkaline earth metal ... Strontium is a divalent silvery metal with a pale yellow tint whose properties are mostly intermediate between and similar to those of its group neighbors calcium and barium.[10] It is softer than calcium and harder than barium. "

To me the important points are:
How well does it work to prevent fractures?
If it increases bone density is it building stronger and functional bone?
What are the possible side effects?
Are the problems with strontium ranelate likely to occur with strontium citrate?
Are the studies of strontium ranelate directly relatable to strontium citrate?

I admit I haven't investigated strontium enough and I do intend to investigate more.
I do know that the logic that strontium citrate is natural and meds are unnatural is not a sound basis for thinking it's ok to take. Large doses of trace minerals can be quite dangerous no matter how "natural" they are. The 640mg dose of strontium citrate is way way greater than the 1-5mg we would likely get per day in food.
Still, it would be great if strontium citrate was really an effective agent for bone thinning.

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One may want to look at the levels in drinking water and that an upper limit is being considered.
https://www.usgs.gov/news/strontium-us-groundwater-used-drinking-water-source

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@awfultruth

@nene78 I'm about as far from an expert as possible in chemistry but a simple lookup will tell you that strontium is a metal. You may want to get it from algae which has absorbed it rather than from a chunk of rock but it is still a metal.
From Wikipedia: " An alkaline earth metal ... Strontium is a divalent silvery metal with a pale yellow tint whose properties are mostly intermediate between and similar to those of its group neighbors calcium and barium.[10] It is softer than calcium and harder than barium. "

To me the important points are:
How well does it work to prevent fractures?
If it increases bone density is it building stronger and functional bone?
What are the possible side effects?
Are the problems with strontium ranelate likely to occur with strontium citrate?
Are the studies of strontium ranelate directly relatable to strontium citrate?

I admit I haven't investigated strontium enough and I do intend to investigate more.
I do know that the logic that strontium citrate is natural and meds are unnatural is not a sound basis for thinking it's ok to take. Large doses of trace minerals can be quite dangerous no matter how "natural" they are. The 640mg dose of strontium citrate is way way greater than the 1-5mg we would likely get per day in food.
Still, it would be great if strontium citrate was really an effective agent for bone thinning.

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Here's a deep dive into the studies regarding strontium:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11007224/
Of note - no testing of strontium citrate and the possible detrimental effects on people with kidney issues. Also, the caution that ant advances from taking strontium reverse if you stop.

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@normahorn

One may want to look at the levels in drinking water and that an upper limit is being considered.
https://www.usgs.gov/news/strontium-us-groundwater-used-drinking-water-source

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@normahorn and @sueinmn Thank you both for those references. Both look to be userul. The paper you provided Sue requires a careful read. Norma the strontium and groundwater you provided is easy.

At a quick glance the ground water levels of concern are at 4mg strontium per liter. So that might mean a person drinking that water might get 4 mg plus another 1-5mg in food and therefore a total of 5-9mg strontium per day.

So the EPA is seemingly concerned about a level that is between 71 and 128 times smaller than the dose of strontium citrate (640mg) many folks are using.
Of course a substance in water that everyone is drinking is evaluated differently than a substance taken by a smaller number of people for a medical condition.
So much to research to just try to evaluate strontium for our bones.

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@awfultruth

@nene78 I'm about as far from an expert as possible in chemistry but a simple lookup will tell you that strontium is a metal. You may want to get it from algae which has absorbed it rather than from a chunk of rock but it is still a metal.
From Wikipedia: " An alkaline earth metal ... Strontium is a divalent silvery metal with a pale yellow tint whose properties are mostly intermediate between and similar to those of its group neighbors calcium and barium.[10] It is softer than calcium and harder than barium. "

To me the important points are:
How well does it work to prevent fractures?
If it increases bone density is it building stronger and functional bone?
What are the possible side effects?
Are the problems with strontium ranelate likely to occur with strontium citrate?
Are the studies of strontium ranelate directly relatable to strontium citrate?

I admit I haven't investigated strontium enough and I do intend to investigate more.
I do know that the logic that strontium citrate is natural and meds are unnatural is not a sound basis for thinking it's ok to take. Large doses of trace minerals can be quite dangerous no matter how "natural" they are. The 640mg dose of strontium citrate is way way greater than the 1-5mg we would likely get per day in food.
Still, it would be great if strontium citrate was really an effective agent for bone thinning.

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Thank you for your reply. I agree with you on all your statements. I took 12mg/day for a year and my dexa went up 5%, per my doctor. I have been trying to find info as you stated above but so far can only locate on the metal composition and the renelade form which I saw was not safe to take. If you come across any info please let me know as I truly don’t know whether to continue taking it. My cardio dr doesn’t know about it.

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@sueinmn

Here's a deep dive into the studies regarding strontium:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11007224/
Of note - no testing of strontium citrate and the possible detrimental effects on people with kidney issues. Also, the caution that ant advances from taking strontium reverse if you stop.

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I would like to thank you for the deep dive article. It gave me some insight as to whether I should continue to take the strontium from “organic algae” or not. Interestingly it actually exists in ocean and river water, hence the absorption into the algae. The dose is low-4 mg/dose/day do I will continue and if you come across any further info please post it.

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@awfultruth

@nene78 I'm about as far from an expert as possible in chemistry but a simple lookup will tell you that strontium is a metal. You may want to get it from algae which has absorbed it rather than from a chunk of rock but it is still a metal.
From Wikipedia: " An alkaline earth metal ... Strontium is a divalent silvery metal with a pale yellow tint whose properties are mostly intermediate between and similar to those of its group neighbors calcium and barium.[10] It is softer than calcium and harder than barium. "

To me the important points are:
How well does it work to prevent fractures?
If it increases bone density is it building stronger and functional bone?
What are the possible side effects?
Are the problems with strontium ranelate likely to occur with strontium citrate?
Are the studies of strontium ranelate directly relatable to strontium citrate?

I admit I haven't investigated strontium enough and I do intend to investigate more.
I do know that the logic that strontium citrate is natural and meds are unnatural is not a sound basis for thinking it's ok to take. Large doses of trace minerals can be quite dangerous no matter how "natural" they are. The 640mg dose of strontium citrate is way way greater than the 1-5mg we would likely get per day in food.
Still, it would be great if strontium citrate was really an effective agent for bone thinning.

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You may be interested in reading the “deep dive” med publications cited above. Looks promising

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@nene78

You may be interested in reading the “deep dive” med publications cited above. Looks promising

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@nene78 Hi there. I read the osteoporosis section just now and it is quite positive. And I do intend to keep researching strontium.

Your intake of 12mg is quite low and maybe not a level that would trigger alarms for the different potential problems with strontium?
Here's one of my favorite pieces on strontium from Dr Alan Gaby a nutritional oriented doctor who I greatly respect.
https://townsendletter.com/editorial-05-18-gaby-high-dose-strontium/

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