Strontium citrate (Algaecal) and fractures

Posted by pami @pami, Apr 15 7:54am

I am looking to see if there are any studies done that show a reduced chance of fracture from using Strontium citrate (Algaecal) as opposed to calcium. Everything I have read only mentions increase of density using it. Does anyone have doctor input or a study showing an decrease in bone fractures?

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@kathleen1314

We would all love for strontium to be researched more, but with the advent of strontium via ranelate there is lots of research. Probably more research than for most other osteoporosis drugs.Plus there are several studies including one old one by the USA army on just strontium and on strontium via citrate.
No one is saying that 680mg of strontium daily is not a therapeutic dose level. You have to have a therapeutic dose to supply the amount of strontium needed to bridge holes in our bones which then allows calcium to adhere and for bone to grow. Dentists, brain surgeons, bone doctors are all using strontium infused products when they need to grow bone. Dang, the original sensodyne toothpaste still found outside the USA uses strontium in its toothpaste.
TBS and REMs are proving that people who have only DEXA do have improved bones with strontium. The dexa argument of 10% skew is lacking in the face of more than a 10% growth in bone density and in the back up results of rems and tbs which say that the bone density and bone quality are good for strontium users. Dang, according to TBS, strontium users are in the top three of bone quality results. And if that isn't enough we have the biopsies of strontium users bones.
The strontium via ranelate cessation was in Europe briefly for strontium ranelate; the company says it never was based on a ban, but the population study which caused all the concern was a study that has been unable to be reproduced by anyone, and Denmark tried for a year. I wouldn't base my drug or supplement decisions on a population study that can not be reproduced. But I would also never take strontium via ranelate; it has aspartame in it and that is just too concerning an additive to me and tied to too many problems in many research studies not just one flawed population study.
That shows one of the problems with trying to make money off of natural products. In order to patent natural products you must tack on a man made product or a man made delivery. Then you skew insurance where it only pays for the patented pharma med and not the compounded med. If you have to have the insured product I woud at least try to go with the natural product using a patented delivery device and research it extensively to try and maintain safety.

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I would like to see studies on the citrate form. Ranelate version has been researched because it was part of the pharmacetical complex.

There were concerns about the ranalate form and cardiovascular effects and at the time I was reading about it noone knew if it was the ranelate or the strontium, and whether strontium citrate has the same risks.

I wrote that 680mg is therapeutic but not "natural."

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@sueinmn

Strontium is an element and is classified as a metal. Strontium Citrate is synthesized from Strontium (whether harvested from plant, animal or the earth) and Calcium Citrate. The supplement mentioned by @windyshores contains 6mg of strontium.

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Actually I take a plant based supplement and the strontium is from algae not metal based. There are 2 sources of strontium. I just want to know if it actually increases bone strength or not. I took -2 mg/year for one year and my bone density increased 5%.

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@nene78

Actually I take a plant based supplement and the strontium is from algae not metal based. There are 2 sources of strontium. I just want to know if it actually increases bone strength or not. I took -2 mg/year for one year and my bone density increased 5%.

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The strontium is embedded in the algae, but comes from the earth, so I guess it is technically "vegetarian " because it is not from animal bones. But it could be derived from strontium-infused coral. As a necessary element, it really doesn't umatter how we acquire it.

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@sueinmn

The strontium is embedded in the algae, but comes from the earth, so I guess it is technically "vegetarian " because it is not from animal bones. But it could be derived from strontium-infused coral. As a necessary element, it really doesn't umatter how we acquire it.

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I have been taking this for the last 5 years since I feel and crushed my L2.
My dexa scan is -3.7
😢I don't want to do shots or aledronate.

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@blessedsista24

I have been taking this for the last 5 years since I feel and crushed my L2.
My dexa scan is -3.7
😢I don't want to do shots or aledronate.

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Hi
I am just confused as to this supplement.There's a lot of posts about.It seems controversial if this is something that works.Why would doctors not use it. I see my endocrinologist in february and i've had three Is zoldronic acid infusions. A little worried as to what the next step is

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@sue417

Hi
I am just confused as to this supplement.There's a lot of posts about.It seems controversial if this is something that works.Why would doctors not use it. I see my endocrinologist in february and i've had three Is zoldronic acid infusions. A little worried as to what the next step is

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That's what I was wondering 🤔 as if 5he insurance company want pay for the injections and if I've already started them what happens.because I've heard that it's worse to start and not be able to continue than to not do them .but I was concerned about the jaw problems.

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@blessedsista24

I have been taking this for the last 5 years since I feel and crushed my L2.
My dexa scan is -3.7
😢I don't want to do shots or aledronate.

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@blessedsista24 the therapeutic dose of strontium is 680mg. That supplement has 5.5mg. Also in my experience 1000mg Vitamin D isn't always enough.

I fractured three lumbar vertebrae with a spinal DEXA of -3.7 and you have already fractured L2, which increases risk of future fractures.

I just hope you don't end up like me! I have now done Tymlos, which got me up to -2.5 (borderline) in spine, 4 months Evenity and low dose Reclast. At some point I will consider strontium but only at therapeutic doses. And knowing that DEXA will never be accurate (though all my fractures already render it less useful.)

Tymlos and Forteo do not cause jaw problems but do need to be "Locked in" with a bisphosphonate which can cause jaw issues, usually after 3-5 years- so time on those is limited. Prolia is the medication that has rebound so that you may be worse off if you start. The other meds (Forteo. Tymlos and Evenity) can be "locked in" with Reclast or Fosamax and then drug holidays are possible.

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@windyshores

@blessedsista24 the therapeutic dose of strontium is 680mg. That supplement has 5.5mg. Also in my experience 1000mg Vitamin D isn't always enough.

I fractured three lumbar vertebrae with a spinal DEXA of -3.7 and you have already fractured L2, which increases risk of future fractures.

I just hope you don't end up like me! I have now done Tymlos, which got me up to -2.5 (borderline) in spine, 4 months Evenity and low dose Reclast. At some point I will consider strontium but only at therapeutic doses. And knowing that DEXA will never be accurate (though all my fractures already render it less useful.)

Tymlos and Forteo do not cause jaw problems but do need to be "Locked in" with a bisphosphonate which can cause jaw issues, usually after 3-5 years- so time on those is limited. Prolia is the medication that has rebound so that you may be worse off if you start. The other meds (Forteo. Tymlos and Evenity) can be "locked in" with Reclast or Fosamax and then drug holidays are possible.

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Hi
What do you mean when you say tymlos, forte and events need to be locked in with reclast?

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@sue417

Hi
What do you mean when you say tymlos, forte and events need to be locked in with reclast?

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Bisphosphonates, like Reclast and Fosamax, can be visualized as coating bone and helping to maintain gains on the other drugs. Every osteoporosis medication is followed by Reclast or an oral bisphosphonate at this stage of the science. Bisphosphonates not only help maintain gains on the other drugs but also continue to add bone density.

For those of us who are sensitive to bisphosphonates, there really is no other choice. I do low dose Reclast more frequently than the annual 5mg infusions normally done to minimize side effects. I cannot afford any more fractures. Tymlos got me to borderline from severe and I want to stay there or better!

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@windyshores

Bisphosphonates, like Reclast and Fosamax, can be visualized as coating bone and helping to maintain gains on the other drugs. Every osteoporosis medication is followed by Reclast or an oral bisphosphonate at this stage of the science. Bisphosphonates not only help maintain gains on the other drugs but also continue to add bone density.

For those of us who are sensitive to bisphosphonates, there really is no other choice. I do low dose Reclast more frequently than the annual 5mg infusions normally done to minimize side effects. I cannot afford any more fractures. Tymlos got me to borderline from severe and I want to stay there or better!

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@windyshores,
Are you on Medicare and does it cover Reclast in those multiple yearly small doses?

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